It's very simple. Your trolling is extremely transparent,
Please give a single example of where I was trolling.
Or is trolling saying anything that doesn't support FE, even if it's a valid concern?
and multiple members pointed to it.
Just because somebody is uncomfortable with a difficult question doesn't mean I'm a troll for bringing it up.
Unless most flat earthers actually believe FE is a fraud and are afraid of the truth.
I get it, the "I'm totally a FE'er but GA-HYUK whoopsie I've done it again erf rund haha" comedy routine is absolutely stunning and entirely unprecedented.
Please show me how you know I'm any less of a flat earther than anybody else here. The fact that I'm honest about some difficult issues shouldn't be grounds to say I'm not a flat earther.
Unless, of course, all experienced flat earther's know it's a fraud.
Hey. We always tell people that flat earth makes a lot more sense, and that if we can't demonstrate it we shouldn't believe it!
But it won't have a place in the upper fora.
What rule did I break?
You can't be honest if you're going to just say it can't be in the upper fora because you disagree with it or wish the difficult issues didn't exist.
Especially when the rules clearly state that it's a debate club and we're expected to use our debate skills to poke holes in theories, even if we don't agree with the stance we're taking at that moment!
It's disruptive to actual discussion.
What? That is complete and total nonsense! I was not being disruptive! People were discussing things and more or less even on topic in my threads. My contributions were also by and large on topic and helpful to the point.
In what way was I being disruptive?
Disruptive to what? The only way true statements about flat earth could be "disruptive" is if you're talking about it being disruptive to the effort to deceive people into thinking that flat earth doesn't have any serious unresolved difficulties.
The only thing I regret is that I haven't responded to reports soon enough and allowed you to mislead some newcomers. I'll own that error.
Now that's not nice to accuse me of misleading anybody without providing a link!
Please show me where I mislead some newcomers!
You seem like a smart enough guy, and you clearly have a passion for defending RET.
Is FET your religion where you just defend it even in areas where you know it's got problems?
I have a passion for defending the truth! That's why I spent enormous time and effort defending the fact that a radial magnetic field was entirely possible on a flat earth!
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https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=13338.msg183448#msg183448)
Why can't I defend the truth, and when it supports FET great I defend it, but why can I not also search for answers to the tough questions that appear to be impossible situations for FET?
Especially when our rules are so clear that it is a debate club and that we are supposed to use our debate skills to poke holes in theories even if we are representing a position we don't actually believe in!
That's great. Just do sincerely - stating what your position is (or that you don't have one),
What? Where in the rules does it say that I need to state a position or state that I don't have one? And besides, I'm pretty sure I stated my position -- that I was seeking the truth, whatever it is -- several times.
Again, are you just making stuff up? I didn't see anything in the rules about stating a position.
How does not stating a position diminish validity of the questions I raised? They are valid serious questions no matter who raises them from what position.
and explain your reasoning without engaging in underhanded tactics.
What? Underhanded tactics? I don't recall using any underhanded tactics! Could you please show me the evidence? Did some glober complain to you and you didn't even check to see what I did?
That's an awful thing to accuse someone without even showing them the evidence!
Oh, and please do so from a single account.
I have only ever created a single account on this website.
When I first tried to sign up, I tried to use a different email address I had for a long time, and it was blocking the confirmation link email as spam, so I never confirmed that one. Then I used this email address and it worked.
The other account was never activated because I never got the activation confirmation email.
This is the only account I've ever successfully created here and it's the only account I've ever posted from, and you're just making it up.
Why would you even lie about me having multiple accounts? It's entirely within your power to know with absolute certainty that you have no evidence of me using multiple accounts.
But "TomFoolery" is the *only* username I have ever ever posted on here. You're bluffing.
If you can't meet these simple requests, please find somewhere else to troll. There are plenty of forums out there with inactive moderation that will let you roam free for more than a month, and you'll be bound to find it more rewarding.
Meet these simple requests, you say?
You want me to state a position -- I did long ago, I'm seeking the truth whatever it is.
Obey the forum rules? I thought I was! Nobody has pointed out where I wasn't.
Being on topic? I try really hard, and do about as good as anybody here does in that regard.
No underhanded tactics? I am not away of using any.
Single account? That's all I've ever posted from. Seriously.
What makes this all so absurd is you're telling me that I'm not following the rules (or your unwritten personal rules), but you haven't pointed out a single instance where I've violated either kind of rules.
How am I supposed to do differently if I don't know what rule I broke or what I said that broke it?
I want an appeal.
I'm clearly being railroaded because I had the integrity to raise valid questions.
You've accused me of all sorts of things with not a single evidence. That's shameful!
If what I did is against some unwritten rules then for Pete's sake
write the rules down so we all know what rules to go by, let me read them so I can follow them.
But it's totally absurd to have unwritten rules and CN-can all my threads without prior warning when I didn't even violate any rules, just because you are not comfortable with the fact that there are difficulties with FET just like there are difficulties with any set of ideas.
It's only honest of you to show me what crimes I did instead of just making vague references.
I request an appeal. Or an official change in rules that actually outlaws the raising of difficult questions for FE.
As it stands, it's a debate club. We're supposed to use our debate skills to poke holes in theories even if we don't really associate with the side we're taking.
Which makes it utterly absurd to say I somehow transgressed by not stating a position or a non-position -- especially when I did state a position of seeking the truth, whatever it is!
You're just upset because I proved what appears to be gravity, and because I dare ask tough question -- all the same ones that globers already know about and laugh at us for.
It's only by embracing the truth and dealing with the difficult questions that we will arrive at a better position.
Unless all the experienced flat earthers don't have the faith in our own society to believe it's true.