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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 05, 2021, 12:28:24 PM »
Tuberculosis and lung cancers are also respiratory illnesses that aren’t flus.
Alberta is taking the same approach as it would to any other respiratory illness.

That is a fact.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 05, 2021, 12:09:44 PM »
Which is to treat it like a flu, which it is.

Incorrect.
Correct.

Flus are not coronaviruses. This is a category error.
Flu is a respiratory illness.


Categorical fact.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 05, 2021, 11:54:52 AM »
Which is to treat it like a flu, which it is.

Incorrect.
Correct.

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The health authority was subpoenaed, the government wrote they had nothing in regards to science to justify government mandated restrictions.

Source?
David Freiheit

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 05, 2021, 11:39:44 AM »
Which is to treat it like a flu, which it is.

The health authority was subpoenaed, the government wrote they had nothing in regards to science to justify government mandated restrictions.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 05, 2021, 11:12:43 AM »
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cod.203235/gov.uscourts.cod.203235.136.0.pdf

First set of sanctions against lawyers pushing lies about election fraud.
LOL! This document is to be taken as legitimate?

Uhhh… Of course it is. It’s a judge’s decision.
I doubt the authenticity, considering the link from which it was derived.

To view the actual document, you must pay.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 05, 2021, 10:50:03 AM »
Alberta is dropping all government mandates related to SARS-CoV-2 and Covid -19.

Reason?

Cannot demonstrate any science supporting government mandated restrictions.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 05, 2021, 10:34:24 AM »
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cod.203235/gov.uscourts.cod.203235.136.0.pdf

First set of sanctions against lawyers pushing lies about election fraud.
LOL! This document is to be taken as legitimate?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: August 04, 2021, 05:43:26 PM »
fascist

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Could have more to do with your inability to think, than my understanding of the meaning of words.

In fact, I am fairly certain that is the issue.

You admittedly support corporate greed running health care. The only way that happens is if government gives it the green light. Which they have been moving toward anyway. With you in the cheering section.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: August 04, 2021, 03:28:20 PM »
This is something that a teen who has just learned about politics for the first time would say!
^Cue fascist rant.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: August 04, 2021, 10:25:42 AM »
The anti-vaccine crowd do sound like annoying teenagers.
^This is spot on. The fascists do want everyone to get the vaccine, and will resort to name calling and shaming first, then force if necessary.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 04:13:59 PM »
^ So, yeah.

They were getting money.

Thanks for finally admitting it.

Many doctors refuse to see a Medicare patient (which is exactly why you and Rama, the tremendous humanitarians you are, want to see everyone on Medicare), but a hospital generally does not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 01:52:32 PM »
The vaccine is largely based on previous vaccines and they are extremely confident that there aren’t long term side effects.
The vaccine was the first of its kind ever used on humans.

The mRNA COVID vaccines were given the largest human trials of any vaccine in history.  Plase 1, 2 and 3 trials for mRNA vaccines were underway before the COVID pandemic had begun.  Just because it was the first of it's kind, does not mean it is untested or unsafe.
You wrote the mRNA vaccines were based "largely on previous vaccines." How could that possibly be?
You can read more here.
mRNA vaccines have been around and experimented for use in oncology, not for virology.

Just one huge lie after another when you write.

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Over 16,000 dead from the vaccine in the US. Thousands more injured permanently.

These figures using the VAERS data which is not confirmed data, as they say when you download or search the data from their site.  They also do not confirm that any death reported is caused by the vaccine.  With over 350M doses administered, there is certainly going to be deaths proximal to, but not caused by, the vaccine injection.  However, even if you decide to take these figures at face value, which is a bad idea, the vaccine is still a net positive for the population.  16,000 deaths < 600,000 deaths.
Yeah, we all get it.

VAERS is good and reliable prior to Covid, now, not so much.

You guys are truly despicable.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 01:02:27 PM »

I suggest you learn the definition of the word, "guidance," before you post again.

The government pays the hospital if Covid is the cause of death.

Administrators want the money.

And will not follow "guidance."

In the US, yes, for Medicare patients, the government pays the hospital for Covid services rendered. I'm not finding where the Gov't is paying something or anything extra for non-Medicare Covid patients.  Please cite a source.
A source for what?

You are now claiming that hospitals are not getting any monies related to Covid deaths unless the patients were on Medicare?

That is up to you, the claimant, to provide the source.

Actually no, you need to provide a source for your statement, "The government pays the hospital if Covid is the cause of death." That is your claim.
Already done.

Asked and answered.

Read the thread.

Quit trolling.

Just like you wouldn't follow "guidance," if I dropped my wallet on the ground and you found it.

Demonstrable lack of conscience found in your post history.

Wow, this says more about your conscience than mine - I once found a wallet on the sidewalk. It had some cash, like $60+, a University ID and some credit/debitcards. I scoured the web for the individual based on the ID. Found her father's info, called him up, he said it was her daughter's. She was visiting here from school, he lived locally. He came by and picked up the wallet, cash included.

Sounds like your your sense of guidance is severely warped & selfish - Makes sense given your stance on this topic.
Yeah, right.

Don't believe that one bit.

And your virtue signaling is just hypocritical BS.

Are you saying, as your default MO, that if you found a wallet on the street that you wouldn't try to return it to its owner, contents intact?
No, and you know it.

I am writing that corporate greed, the thing you lefties so despise, seems to magically disappear when the reality smacks you right in the face. You somehow magically cannot recognize it when fascism that you truly love appears.

Another case of accuse the other side of doing what you want.

You guys are busted.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 12:58:53 PM »
Read the thread.

Read.

So it's spite, got it.
Yeah, it is only spite that prevents you from you reading.

And it was out of spite that you posted all the false crap when this thread first started.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 12:57:44 PM »
The vaccine is largely based on previous vaccines and they are extremely confident that there aren’t long term side effects.
The vaccine was the first of its kind ever used on humans.

Over 16,000 dead from the vaccine in the US. Thousands more injured permantly.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 12:34:21 PM »

It's a fact. Not a claim.


Claim is not the opposite of fact. A claim is something that you claim, obviously. You are a claiming this is a fact. You are being asked to give a source.
I stated a fact.

Something that has eluded you, quite obviously.

No, I understood you quite clearly. You claim it’s a fact, and are being asked to support that claim. I know you understand this, but you either can’t support it, or so not wish to out of spite.
I have provided the support.

Out of spite, you just continue writing denials.

I haven’t denied anything, I might have missed it. Can you link to the post where this evidence is located?
Read the thread.

Read.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 12:23:53 PM »

It's a fact. Not a claim.


Claim is not the opposite of fact. A claim is something that you claim, obviously. You are a claiming this is a fact. You are being asked to give a source.
I stated a fact.

Something that has eluded you, quite obviously.

No, I understood you quite clearly. You claim it’s a fact, and are being asked to support that claim. I know you understand this, but you either can’t support it, or so not wish to out of spite.
I have provided the support.

Out of spite, you just continue writing denials.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 12:14:52 PM »

It's a fact. Not a claim.


Claim is not the opposite of fact. A claim is something that you claim, obviously. You are a claiming this is a fact. You are being asked to give a source.
I stated a fact.

Something that has eluded you, quite obviously.

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Right. Except Pole to Pole circumnavigation trips have occurred.
Looking at the routes of those, they don’t go straight on at the South Pole
That do not happen to be pole to pole.
Ok. Well how about you look the route of one of them up and show how it maps to a flat earth map.
Well, how about eliminating what you wrote to begin.

You write, "Pole to Pole circumnavigation trips have occurred."

Immediately after that, you write, "Looking at the routes of those, they don’t go straight on at the South Pole."

Meaning that is not pole to pole.

Obviously, since the maps and charts used were flat, it worked just fine.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 03, 2021, 10:43:16 AM »

I suggest you learn the definition of the word, "guidance," before you post again.

The government pays the hospital if Covid is the cause of death.

Administrators want the money.

And will not follow "guidance."

In the US, yes, for Medicare patients, the government pays the hospital for Covid services rendered. I'm not finding where the Gov't is paying something or anything extra for non-Medicare Covid patients.  Please cite a source.
A source for what?

You are now claiming that hospitals are not getting any monies related to Covid deaths unless the patients were on Medicare?

That is up to you, the claimant, to provide the source.
You claimed they were first so... its you who must prove that claim.  And I'd like to know: Are US hospitals getting $$$ for every dead covid person?  Someone prove this to me one way or another.
It's a fact. Not a claim.

And hospitals were receiving more money than usual from the government, thanks to the CARES Act, for just listing a case as Covid treatment.

Nearly everyone that was hospitalized with this disease met the age or eligibility requirements for Medicare to begin with.

The majority of those dead were over the age of 65.

$13k for a case, $39k if a ventilator was used, more than double what the government was paying prior to covid.

I am no longer going to waste any time with you Dave.

You are neither a lord nor even equal to a commoner with the lousy trolling and denial.

You push total disinformation and will eventually answer for all of it.

You seem to be all for lining the pockets of corporate medicine in any way possible. A true reformer, in every sense of the term.

Absolutely disgusting.

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