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Title: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: wtbofnc on January 15, 2016, 10:19:47 PM
When is a good time to start a new education system which is Flat Earth Based?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: UnionsOfSolarSystemPlanet on January 16, 2016, 05:09:02 AM
When liberals fully take control of the government, they care more of our backward culture's rights than our advancement.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: mbecks on January 16, 2016, 06:09:55 AM
This is a fun topic to talk about and debate and forums but in reality its not a real concern and a very niche belief. Its not really credible enough to be supported as something that should be taught to children.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: juner on January 16, 2016, 07:23:35 AM

This is a fun topic to talk about and debate and forums but in reality its not a real concern and a very niche belief. Its not really credible enough to be supported as something that should be taught to children.

Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: andruszkow on January 16, 2016, 01:19:24 PM

This is a fun topic to talk about and debate and forums but in reality its not a real concern and a very niche belief. Its not really credible enough to be supported as something that should be taught to children.

Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim?
Do you have other replies than this one in your troll repertoire?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Christer Fuglesang on January 16, 2016, 01:55:59 PM
When is a good time to start a new education system which is Flat Earth Based?

I'm not sure you would be able to convince the relevant stakeholders with your 'Daesh of Science' arguments, so you would need to overrun the Central Adm. with power. Hereafter you would need to find thousands of teachers who would convey your fantasies. All elementary school teachers I know are both honest, intelligent and holds a high level of integrity, so I think it would be difficult for you guys. But maybe USA is different.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: wtbofnc on January 16, 2016, 03:16:04 PM
I realize that some of you have nothing better to do than to come to this website which is for open minded discussion in an attempt to bully free, open minded people.  People, who are in my opinion far more advanced intellectually than you are.  I too have been a victim of the establishment.  I have admitted that I am a simple human and have been naive for the past 35 years. Your ability to see the big picture was removed. The curiosity you had as a child was suppressed. You are a programmed robot.
Children come into this world and they are immediately told no.  They are told no several thousand times before they reach the age of five.  This curiosity is nearly all suppressed once they start their first day of elementary school.  Have you ever seen a Childs face when you tell them "NO" for the first time? Didn't you feel ashamed for telling them that?  The reason you feel ashamed is because you understand their curiosity.  You understand their need to know. But your fear for their safety prevents you from allowing them to "SEE".  And your attempt to explain the reason cannot be understood because they are too young to understand.  All they know is that it is bad to explore. And so, the vicious cycle repeats itself.  So, if you could please remove yourself from this forum if you want to continue this madness. This forum is for free thought.  Open mindedness.
We are all children here.  Literally.  Most of us are being born again.  So, go have yourself some kids, turn them into slaves, but leave us to discussion. If you only wish to put people down, do that to your friends.  They should learn who the real person you are. The fake, unfair and thoughtless programmed bully. A prisoner of your own mind.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Christer Fuglesang on January 16, 2016, 03:47:47 PM

But you don't want to change the school at all. You just want to teach them that the Earth is flat and not round and show the kids a lot of youtube videos.

I'm just pointing out that that will be a difficult plan to execute with the level of 'evidence' that you have.

Am I the one being rude!? It's you who are calling all the scientists working and dedicating their lives to the exploration of space for liars and even worse things!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: mbecks on January 16, 2016, 05:40:16 PM

This is a fun topic to talk about and debate and forums but in reality its not a real concern and a very niche belief. Its not really credible enough to be supported as something that should be taught to children.

Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim?

Not a source but a lack of sources. I'm unable to find any instance where the mainstream science or education systems have taken any part of the flat earth societies claims serious. Which would have to happen before it would be at all considered to be put into the education system. I haven't done deep research into this so if you have anything that shows they are taking it serious id be glad to give it a read.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Christer Fuglesang on January 16, 2016, 06:06:50 PM

The science and education systems have not taken Harry Potter serious either. There's a reason for that! It's fantasy!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Pete Svarrior on January 16, 2016, 06:09:56 PM
The science and education systems have not taken Harry Potter serious either. There's a reason for that! It's fantasy!
Do you have anything to add to this discussion, or do you just intend on saying that you think the Earth is round over and over again?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Christer Fuglesang on January 16, 2016, 06:53:29 PM

Dear Mr 'SexWarrior',

I'm stating the obvious. The Earth is 'round' and is confirmed every day e.g. by the the people in the ISS. You can actually follow the ISS from Earth and occasionally it will pass over your location. The fact that the earth is round have tried to be conveyed in every way; academically, logically, intuitive, and so. But you're like teflon. "Facts are stupid things!", as your former president Ronald Reagan said (sorry I assume you're all americans...), and you seem to live by this motto.

This is the forum of TRUTH. Why beat around the bush? You need to explain to me why the entire space program is a big lie (!) before we can talk about a flat earth. If you convince me, I'll be a flat earther too.

Cheers


Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Pete Svarrior on January 16, 2016, 06:54:47 PM
I'm stating the obvious.
While I disagree that this is what you're doing, it seems that regardless of who's correct you're doing something extremely pointless and futile. So, what's the point?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Christer Fuglesang on January 16, 2016, 07:13:55 PM

Dear Mr 'SexWarrior',

You're discussing 'liquid dynamics', 'earth core composition', 'refractions', and you all think you're intellectuals. I find it completely irrelevant. It's like arguing that New York do not exist, because there's no track record of Mr Kyle Schmidt who is said to have lived in east side in 1908. You have a behavior like the Amish people. We're living in 2016 and have had technology for many years to state that we're living on a round earth.

Cheers
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: juner on January 16, 2016, 07:59:22 PM


Dear Mr 'SexWarrior',

You're discussing 'liquid dynamics', 'earth core composition', 'refractions', and you all think you're intellectuals. I find it completely irrelevant. It's like arguing that New York do not exist, because there's no track record of Mr Kyle Schmidt who is said to have lived in east side in 1908. You have a behavior like the Amish people. We're living in 2016 and have had technology for many years to state that we're living on a round earth.

Cheers

What is it with you people and ridiculous claims? Your analogies make no sense, and your understanding of physics and math is rudimentary at best, yet you feel the need to pass judgement on others... If you have a point to make, then please do so. There's no reason to keep saying "the earth is round because it's round," even though circular logic is a favorite tactic of you RErs.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Pete Svarrior on January 16, 2016, 08:01:26 PM
You're discussing 'liquid dynamics' [...]
I'm not discussing liquid dynamics - I'm explaining fluid dynamics. The difference is particularly crucial since the fluid we were talking about was not a liquid. It's also important to not blur the distinction between intelligence and knowledge - I make very few claims to the former. At least try to keep your story straight.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Christer Fuglesang on January 16, 2016, 08:13:09 PM

Dear Mr 'Sex-Warroir',

I'm sorry. Fluid dynamics, then. But we're not really interested in 'fluid dynamics', are we? We're interested in the Earth being round or flat. we don't need to talk about 'fluid dynamics' in order to tell if the Earth is round or flat, because we fly around the Earth every day. That is a fact. If you think I'm lying about that, you need to tell me how? There's overwhelming evidence for what I'm saying. It's so obvious that I not even sure you're serious. Your 'avatar' suggest that you just think this is a fun game. And it kind of is. If it's a game.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Pete Svarrior on January 16, 2016, 08:47:41 PM
But we're not really interested in 'fluid dynamics', are we?
Of course we are. Why wouldn't we be?

We're interested in the Earth being round or flat.
An interesting change of perspective from your previous stance, but I'll take it as a show of good faith.

we don't need to talk about 'fluid dynamics' in order to tell if the Earth is round or flat
Of course we do. Also, why do you insist on putting fluid dynamics in quotes? It's a fairly well established discipline (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_dynamics).

we fly around the Earth every day. That is a fact. If you think I'm lying about that, you need to tell me how?
We do fly around the Earth every day. It also provides us with no information about its shape whatsoever.

There's overwhelming evidence for what I'm saying. It's so obvious that I not even sure you're serious.
Would you like to present some of that evidence?

Your 'avatar' suggest that you just think this is a fun game. And it kind of is. If it's a game.
My avatar is a picture of myself. I enjoy silly headwear. It's also the same avatar I use virtually everywhere else on the Internet. If you're so quick to cast judgement on things based on what you saw in the spur of a moment, I'm not surprised that you're not willing to question your indoctrination.

Damn, that must feel good.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Christer Fuglesang on January 16, 2016, 09:05:04 PM

Dear Mr 'Sex Warrior',

I was merely suggesting that you were here for the fun of it. You do read? The word 'sex' and 'warrior' does says something about you, and it's not related to FE, weather you want it or not. Never mind..

If you have access to a brain and a computer you don't need my reference to the ISS. You can see that we're orbiting a round earth every day. I'm close to the project, so why don't you just go all in and tell me that I'm a liar?

Cheers
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Pete Svarrior on January 16, 2016, 09:18:16 PM
I'm close to the project, so why don't you just go all in and tell me that I'm a liar?
Your unsubstantiated claim will indeed be assumed to be false until you provide sufficient evidence to it.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: mbecks on January 16, 2016, 09:57:53 PM
lol threads get de-railed so well on this forum. Typically if someone wries something completely off topic I ask them nicely to stay on topic. These threads all end the same way, to people arguing pointlessly over random subjects. We should all work on ignoring the posts that have zero weight. bring this back on topic. no one has commented on my last post in this thread, anything to add?
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: gotham on January 17, 2016, 02:14:16 AM
FET should be included in the curriculum at all educational levels.  Why? Because RET is being questioned as to its validity and has much to answer for. How it usurped the long history of FET is for another thread, but by simply saying the Earth is round over and over because of current textbook conjecture without presenting the doubters viewpoint is wrong. Eluding those who know otherwise by avoiding inclusion of FET in the decision making process is wrong. It does not bode well for speaking of purported truth while holding back the tide of those that can prove RET wrong.

If RE believers are so confident, they should assist in every way possible to expedite FET into textbooks. 
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: wtbofnc on January 17, 2016, 02:48:29 AM
This Christer fellow is hell-bent in attempting on changing minds here.  He's that guy who bitches and complains everyday about how the world works but puts absolutely no effort in getting to the bottom of it.  He doesn't quite understand that the everyday bombardment of misinformation is meant to cloud and redirect his attention.  He has absolutely no idea how the majority of our history has been misconstrued in an attempt to redirect attention from the area beyond Antarctica.  He gobbles down misinformation the same way he gobbles up preservatives, sugar and prescribed medications.  The same way he spends (contributes) his hard earned money on energy that is polluting our enclosed planet.  He has absolutely no idea that the global warming movement, if not seriously addressed, will have an impact on our oceans causing the water to empty into the areas beyond the ice.  It is a real pity for him.  Hopefully before he dies he is able to fill the empty space in his mind that was sabotaged solely for the purpose of greed . It is a success story for the world elite.  He is part of a large congregation of victims that continuously fall for this huge lie.  If he could only consider just a few facts that are given here, he could take back his life.  He could be a happier person.  (Although he believes whole heartedly that he is happy)  We cannot change his mind!  He cannot change ours.  We have been where he is and that is a place we will not return to.
As he looks across the sea on his next vacation, instead of telling himself that the earth is round, he should take a different approach. He should take into consideration how the horizon from left to right remains flat as far as he can see. Wouldn't the sea have a curved signature from left to right?  Seriously?
I was programmed the same as him.  For 35 years, I never once gave it a second thought.  This was due to the vast mountain of bullshit that was forced down my throat year after year. It is such a difficult feat for him to even consider what the people here are saying and I totally get that.  Break the ice.  See what is on the other side of this argument. -Cheers
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: juner on January 17, 2016, 03:09:38 AM
FET should be included in the curriculum at all educational levels.  Why? Because RET is being questioned as to its validity and has much to answer for. How it usurped the long history of FET is for another thread, but by simply saying the Earth is round over and over because of current textbook conjecture without presenting the doubters viewpoint is wrong. Eluding those who know otherwise by avoiding inclusion of FET in the decision making process is wrong. It does not bode well for speaking of purported truth while holding back the tide of those that can prove RET wrong.

If RE believers are so confident, they should assist in every way possible to expedite FET into textbooks.

Welcome back, gotham.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: gotham on January 17, 2016, 03:56:19 AM
Thanks junker. Lots of good things going on here for our very important task at hand!
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: andruszkow on January 17, 2016, 02:37:42 PM


truth while holding back the tide of those that can prove RET wrong.

But nobody can, and nobody has.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Roundy on January 17, 2016, 11:35:08 PM
I feel that FET should be taught in elementary school as an alternative to the accepted theory.  It's an alternative viewpoint that is gaining a lot of support in the twenty-first century and children should know that if they believe in their hearts that the Earth is not a whirling ball there are people out there who share that opinion.  They need to know they're not alone.  I know it's not mainstream to be accepting of such alternative viewpoints at the moment, but if our educational leaders are at least willing to acknowledge our existence it would be a step in the right direction and who knows, maybe, someday, far off in the future, FET will be the mainstream, because some educators today were willing to show an open mind.  That is my dream.  But I suppose I'm an idealist.
Title: Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
Post by: Rayzor on January 18, 2016, 01:51:56 AM
I feel that FET should be taught in elementary school as an alternative to the accepted theory.  It's an alternative viewpoint that is gaining a lot of support in the twenty-first century and children should know that if they believe in their hearts that the Earth is not a whirling ball there are people out there who share that opinion.  They need to know they're not alone.  I know it's not mainstream to be accepting of such alternative viewpoints at the moment, but if our educational leaders are at least willing to acknowledge our existence it would be a step in the right direction and who knows, maybe, someday, far off in the future, FET will be the mainstream, because some educators today were willing to show an open mind.  That is my dream.  But I suppose I'm an idealist.

Agreed.

I am solidly in the RE camp,  but I think FE theory should be taught in schools,   clear thinking and logical reasoning  are essential life skills.