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Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« on: October 07, 2022, 04:09:18 PM »
Considering all of the recent fearmongering regarding Putin using nuclear weapons, I felt it necessary to remind everyone here that nuclear weapons simply do not exist.

They're not real.

They're made up.

It's a meme.

Seriously, they are nothing other than WWII propaganda that the Allies made up to scare Japan into surrendering and to keep Russia from continuing the war. Then Russia started to claim it also totally had nukes and yet no one ever used them. Suspiciously, no one anywhere ever uses them! Wow! It must be because humanity is so strong willed and moral and definitely not because they don't exist.

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2022, 05:01:05 PM »
BS.  My uncle's friend's son said he saw the mushroom cloud of a nuclear test once.
This is rock solid evidence that is irrifutable.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2022, 08:21:59 PM »
Considering all of the recent fearmongering regarding Putin using nuclear weapons, I felt it necessary to remind everyone here that nuclear weapons simply do not exist.

They're not real.

They're made up.

It's a meme.

Seriously, they are nothing other than WWII propaganda that the Allies made up to scare Japan into surrendering and to keep Russia from continuing the war. Then Russia started to claim it also totally had nukes and yet no one ever used them. Suspiciously, no one anywhere ever uses them! Wow! It must be because humanity is so strong willed and moral and definitely not because they don't exist.


Nuclear bombs exist just as Atomic bombs exist.

Unfortunately, the Atomic Bomb was used twice on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands of people.

The Nuclear bomb (if dropped in a major city) will kill millions. Just because it hasn't been used yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Faulty logic and you are getting wrapped up in conspiratorial thinking again vs. reality.

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2022, 08:35:31 PM »
You see, Rushy, they do exist. They're just invisible and otherwise imperceivable, but they're out there. You know it's true because GoldCashew, a man on the Internet, said so.
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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2022, 08:37:59 PM »
Nuclear bombs exist just as Atomic bombs exist.

Neither of those things exist.

Unfortunately, the Atomic Bomb was used twice on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands of people.

That was just firebombing. Funny enough, the government admits that the Tokyo raids were firebombing (and they killed more people!). Awful coincidence that the US decided to use its two epic, ultra powerful weapons on... two remote villages and then nowhere else ever again. Really jogs the noggin.

The Nuclear bomb (if dropped in a major city) will kill millions. Just because it hasn't been used yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Faulty logic and you are getting wrapped up in conspiratorial thinking again vs. reality.

Sure, a magic city-popping weapon exists and countries all over the world have one. They don't use it because destroying cities with one bomb is rude. Instead, they all destroy cities with lots of little bombs instead. This makes sense because it does.

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2022, 08:52:10 PM »
Suspiciously, no one anywhere ever uses them!
Incorrect.  Over 2000 nuclear bombs have been used since 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests
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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2022, 08:54:33 PM »
Suspiciously, no one anywhere ever uses them!
Incorrect.  Over 2000 nuclear bombs have been used since 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests

Drill down the sources and it's just a government saying "dude trust me".

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2022, 09:14:23 PM »
Suspiciously, no one anywhere ever uses them!
Incorrect.  Over 2000 nuclear bombs have been used since 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests

Drill down the sources and it's just a government saying "dude trust me".


You are getting wrapped up in conspiracy theories again. Its what's led to your faulty conclusion that space travel is a hoax and that the Earth is flat.

Sometimes we tend to leverage conspiratorial thinking because it gives is a sense of control or comfort in dealing with a chaotic world or events that we don't have control over.

And so it's likely the reason why you posted this thread.... you may be looking for consensus and comfort in the chaotic and dangerous world we live in.

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2022, 09:18:12 PM »
What's this thing called?


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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2022, 09:34:02 PM »
Suspiciously, no one anywhere ever uses them!
Incorrect.  Over 2000 nuclear bombs have been used since 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests

Drill down the sources and it's just a government saying "dude trust me".
Are you kidding?  Las Vegas used to host nuclear test viewing parties.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/atomic-tourism-nevada/
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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2022, 09:38:51 PM »
If nuclear bombs do exist, what proof would it take for you to believe it?
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If the world is round, it means that you’re just an idiot who believes stupid crap on the internet.

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2022, 12:31:25 AM »
What's this thing called?

[snip]

That's called TNT.

You are getting wrapped up in conspiracy theories again. Its what's led to your faulty conclusion that space travel is a hoax and that the Earth is flat.

Sometimes we tend to leverage conspiratorial thinking because it gives is a sense of control or comfort in dealing with a chaotic world or events that we don't have control over.

And so it's likely the reason why you posted this thread.... you may be looking for consensus and comfort in the chaotic and dangerous world we live in.

"You're looking for consensus, that's why you post facts that go against mainstream narratives." What? You're just echoing propaganda you read somewhere in a media article. You clearly don't even understand what the words in it mean. Activate your neurons, my man. If you're going to agree with mainstream ideas, you could at least do it in a way that doesn't make your side look even worse.

Are you kidding?  Las Vegas used to host nuclear test viewing parties.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/atomic-tourism-nevada/

"Dude this totally happened, people totally saw the nuke and weren't just treated to a big explosion."

Gee, the only thing that can explodey the big way must be nukes. Can't have big explosions without nukes! ... The absolute state of modern critical thinking skills.

If nuclear bombs do exist, what proof would it take for you to believe it?

If nuclear bombs existed, we'd have nuclear terrorism, we'd have states like Pakistan using them to bully neighbors. Russia would have nuked Ukraine first, not invaded, made a fool of themselves, then threatened to use them later. Ukraine doesn't even have nukes! What, are they afraid NATO will declare war on them? That's a MAD scenario. There is absolutely zero downside to nuking non-nuclear states and yet no one does it. How curious! Humanity must be super restrained, intelligent and moral. It can't be that nukes are made up nonsense!

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2022, 12:33:54 AM »

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2022, 12:34:51 AM »

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2022, 12:53:38 AM »
Are you kidding?  Las Vegas used to host nuclear test viewing parties.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/atomic-tourism-nevada/

"Dude this totally happened, people totally saw the nuke and weren't just treated to a big explosion."

Gee, the only thing that can explodey the big way must be nukes. Can't have big explosions without nukes! ... The absolute state of modern critical thinking skills.
Right, da goberment likes to blow up a few hundred thousand tons of explosives just to give the Las Vegas tourists a cool light show.  They also dispersed some radioactive material into the atmoplane to add to the authenticity. ::)

Seriously, why is this troll thread not in AR or CN?
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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2022, 01:21:16 AM »
Are you kidding?  Las Vegas used to host nuclear test viewing parties.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/atomic-tourism-nevada/

"Dude this totally happened, people totally saw the nuke and weren't just treated to a big explosion."

Gee, the only thing that can explodey the big way must be nukes. Can't have big explosions without nukes! ... The absolute state of modern critical thinking skills.
Right, da goberment likes to blow up a few hundred thousand tons of explosives just to give the Las Vegas tourists a cool light show.  They also dispersed some radioactive material into the atmoplane to add to the authenticity. ::)

Seriously, why is this troll thread not in AR or CN?

There's certainly no way the government could afford to just blow things up as a form of propaganda. It's completely impossible, haha, no way that could ever happen. The US government doesn't lie to people. It just doesn't happen.

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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2022, 01:49:07 AM »
There's certainly no way the government could afford to just blow things up as a form of propaganda. It's completely impossible, haha, no way that could ever happen. The US government doesn't lie to people. It just doesn't happen.
Seriously, why is this troll thread not in AR or CN?
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2022, 10:04:36 AM »
Right, da goberment likes to blow up a few hundred thousand tons of explosives just to give the Las Vegas tourists a cool light show.
Yes, that's pretty common in entertainment. Haven't you seen an action movie before?

Seriously, why is this troll thread not in AR or CN?
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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2022, 01:54:45 PM »
What's this thing called?

[snip]

That's called TNT.

You are getting wrapped up in conspiracy theories again. Its what's led to your faulty conclusion that space travel is a hoax and that the Earth is flat.

Sometimes we tend to leverage conspiratorial thinking because it gives is a sense of control or comfort in dealing with a chaotic world or events that we don't have control over.

And so it's likely the reason why you posted this thread.... you may be looking for consensus and comfort in the chaotic and dangerous world we live in.

"You're looking for consensus, that's why you post facts that go against mainstream narratives." What? You're just echoing propaganda you read somewhere in a media article. You clearly don't even understand what the words in it mean. Activate your neurons, my man. If you're going to agree with mainstream ideas, you could at least do it in a way that doesn't make your side look even worse.

Are you kidding?  Las Vegas used to host nuclear test viewing parties.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/atomic-tourism-nevada/

"Dude this totally happened, people totally saw the nuke and weren't just treated to a big explosion."

Gee, the only thing that can explodey the big way must be nukes. Can't have big explosions without nukes! ... The absolute state of modern critical thinking skills.

If nuclear bombs do exist, what proof would it take for you to believe it?

If nuclear bombs existed, we'd have nuclear terrorism, we'd have states like Pakistan using them to bully neighbors. Russia would have nuked Ukraine first, not invaded, made a fool of themselves, then threatened to use them later. Ukraine doesn't even have nukes! What, are they afraid NATO will declare war on them? That's a MAD scenario. There is absolutely zero downside to nuking non-nuclear states and yet no one does it. How curious! Humanity must be super restrained, intelligent and moral. It can't be that nukes are made up nonsense!



What studies or research have you done to conclude that when a crate of TNT is set off, that the blast pattern behaves like that of a mushroom cloud many miles up in the sky?

Did you perform some type of very small scale experiment or did you reference ordinance experts to arrive at your conclusion?
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Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2022, 02:55:52 PM »
What studies or research have you done to conclude that when a crate of TNT is set off, that the blast pattern behaves like that of a mushroom cloud many miles up in the sky?

Did you perform some type of very small scale experiment or did you reference ordinance experts to arrive at your conclusion?

What studies did you perform to say that pattern must be unique to nuclear explosions? You're asking me to provide you evidence that all possible types of explosion don't match that of a nuclear explosion. That's a completely nonsensical way to approach an argument. You've been here for at least like a year by now, shouldn't your ability to form serious arguments be improving?

Since you brought it up, let's talk a bit about non-nuclear explosions. In fact, let's use wikipedia. It's mainstream. You like mainstream things, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_cloud

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mushroom clouds generated by explosions were being described centuries before the atomic era

Uh oh, it looks like you're wrong! Wow! Who knew! If only you had the ability to research basic facts before posting then this could have all been avoided. Tragic!