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Arts & Entertainment / Paintings thread
« on: November 15, 2023, 09:36:11 PM »
Hey guys,
What’s your favorite paintings and from what era? I actually love a lot of modern art, despite preferring the classics.

One called AATW presumes that with no evidence. The company clearly states everything was done at sea level using line-of-sight.

Where's the mountain?

Masterful non-response, Duality. Baffled why you would even post that.

Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 25, 2023, 01:52:50 AM »

How globe-believing zealots measure the curve:


Hey, if you’re unprepared for debating this why do you even bother? You’re not even making a point. It’s no wonder you’re on *that* side of the debate (:

Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 11, 2023, 02:06:11 PM »
Freemasonry isn't behind any heliocentric worldview. Masons always meet on the level.

When you're part of a conspiracy, you know that you're selling BS to people.

It's not about Freemasonry as a whole. It never was and it never will be. I can count the Freemasons that "went to the Moon" with my fingers. But they were there... in the hangar faking it lol.
The "Moon landing," was definitely bullshit of course. But that has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.


Flat Earth Media / Re: NASA's Lost 1966 Quantum Brake Technology?
« on: September 10, 2023, 08:22:25 PM »
It doesn’t even exactly match it. It’s rotating, then rotating *less* (relative to the earth in such a way that the camera is moving to point at the earth in the same way) then rotating more. It clearly isn’t “stopping”. Like this is shockingly obvious. There can’t be adults that think this a “epic NASA fail”, there just can’t be.

EDIT: The comments… are full of people that think this is proof of something… what is happening to people these days?

I don't get what your "gotcha" is supposed to be.
Why does there have to be a "gotcha"?  Why can't it just be a legitimate question asked in good faith?

Everything must be a “gotcha”, “bashing”, or “trolling”.

Flat Earth Community / Is Jeranism a good source for FE points?
« on: July 10, 2023, 06:04:41 PM »
I’m asking at the individual level, do YOU think Jeranism is spreading good points for FE and why or why not?

I personally don’t. He’s had a history of making some suspiciously bad arguments in favor of FE, while I’ve seen better ones from the wiki here.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: iSpace lunar lander images of Earth
« on: June 21, 2023, 03:54:37 AM »
Quote from: Dual1ty
Prove that it's real, then? Could be Photoshop, could be anything. But it's definitely CGI. Prove that it's not?

Woah, now! Let's not forget this already.
Quote from: Dual1ty
So you're dang right that I don't want you to provide "evidence" of your belief that NASA doesn't fake stuff, because I know for a fact that they do.

That's not from NASA, though.

Ok, where's your proof (≠ evidence) that it's real? Let's hear it, then. 

Well you see, there’s a picture of it. It COULD be fake much like I COULD win the lottery. But the best assumption (considering the context, source, etc) is that it’s real, and that’s enough to go by.

Why should I *care* if a lot of people are trans? I don’t think I’m wrapping my head around this. And claiming that “kids are getting life altering serjeree” is admitting that you know nothing about this.

My lifelong friend who is trans is literally having to keep track of laws across all states and keep up research to see where it is SAFE TO LIVE. Is that what politicians should be doing for citizens?

Wonder why the hormone therapy being pushed by government is designed to give the person the body the person thinks they have, rather than a hormone therapy designed to set the mind straight with the body that is currently in existence.

Which government is pushing hormone therapy?

Flat Earth Community / Intuitive understanding of the world.
« on: June 06, 2023, 06:09:38 AM »
FE - uniquely to other theories such as chem trails - gets a large portion of its new believers due to intuitive misunderstanding of the world and our collective “mental models” of physics.

For example: you are a full grown adult and get a job where you don’t really need to think about the effects of fluid dynamics on aircraft. You scroll on Facebook and see someone posing a question you’ve never seen before - “how do airplanes stay horizontal with the curve of the earth and not go to space!” You’ve never thought of this before and get curious, throw in some mild distrust of authority and congratulations, you are now a flat earther.

It’s a trap many beginner flat earthers make, trying to “break” the globe model. More knowledgeable ones know that breaking the globe model is a losing gambit and will end up like tfes (refining the FE model with phenomena such as EA rather than breaking the RE model)

I will absolutely put people that join FE out of misunderstanding in the same camp as people who have their minds blown about “how does the mirror know what’s behind the paper”.

It doesn’t help that a lot of the RE “community” can be quite rude to FE in debates, when often it’s people that simply misunderstood. I’ve gotten plenty of people to become round earthers again through calm logical discussion, and continue to do so.

Flat Earth Projects / Re: Flat Earth alternative to a globe
« on: June 06, 2023, 05:58:15 AM »
The globe distorts the shape of the world the least.

Flat Earth Media / Re: NASA: Going Nowhere Since 1958
« on: June 06, 2023, 05:56:04 AM »
I actually bothered to watch it while working.
Literally says nothing, this isn’t “dangerous” at all. Conspiracy grifting nonsense.

Flat Earth Media / Re: New Photos of Moon suggest Flat Earth?
« on: June 06, 2023, 05:54:02 AM »
Lol at quoting the “pear shaped” thing
Painfully obviously meant playfully as “a sphere but morphed 0.0001% into a pear shape”.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Do liberal elites worship Satan?
« on: June 05, 2023, 05:48:20 AM »
You do know they WANT you think they worship Satan, right? Some of you have some research to do.

It’s because it’s an emotional argument that must be disguised as a logical one.
There is no reason why kids can see a Disney princess kiss a Disney prince AOK, but a similar scene replaced with a Disney Prince kissing another Disney prince becomes bad.

As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?

The media minimizes the popularity of FE beliefs, with the narrative being that they are a loud minority.

I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.

Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.

This is a good point.

There is an incredibly popular notion these days that government is (for many “reasons”) “pushing” some sort of LGBT related agenda in everyone’s face.
It’s a VERY old and extremely common series of events:
-Group A is marginalized by Group B
-Subset of Group B seeks to reduce marginalization of Group A
-Years pass
-Group A now apparently runs everything and there is an active agenda to shove Group A propaganda “down your throat”.

Common example: some hate crime occurs against (trans people, Jews, etc) and the majority of comments will be entertaining the idea that the hate crime was actually faked by le gubment to “make people think trans people experience hate crimes”(?)

Here’s what a lot of people don’t want to realize: LGBT acceptance is NOT the status quo. Conservative outlets will vigorously work to make it seem like LGBT acceptance is this huge powerful evil force reaching into every aspect of society when it’s simply not.

Flat Earth Media / Re: New Photos of Moon suggest Flat Earth?
« on: May 12, 2023, 03:07:26 PM »
Oh, so you're a skeptic, are you? ;D Here's a quote that I found on the internet:

Sadly, or sillily, internet skeptics are really just bulwarks for established orthodoxies. They learn Logical Fallacy 101 but never really doubt their own doubts - which is the essence of skeptictism. They have an arrogance and smugness that an actual skeptic couldn't possibly have because it is inconsistent with the very notion of doubt.

What? Thanks for the quote(?), but I’m talking about the real world.

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