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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 09, 2023, 08:30:07 PM »
The questions you replied to are "how can you maintain that this shouldn't be investigated by Congress? Why are you guys crying that this should not be investigated?" Presumably anyone replying to me with an argument must think that this should not be investigated.

Well there's your problem. You assumed something that, based on my response, was clearly not what I was arguing. It's ok Tom we all make mistakes from time to time.

Again this has already been investigated thoroughly without a shred of evidence (seriously, it's absurd for you to have this line of argument now anyway, given that Biden has already been so thoroughly investigated, but Tom gonna Tom). When is it time to throw in the towel? For the Republicans in this instance, never, because it's not actually about finding the truth, it's about smearing a political enemy. Leveling the playing field. Who cares if we've fished and fished for evidence of wrongdoing and found not a shred, let's impeach him anyway because it makes Trump look a little better if they've both been impeached.

Clown show. And puppet show (people like you are the puppets).

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 09, 2023, 04:46:17 PM »
Even under the scenario that Hunter Biden was collecting money under the guise of providing access to political power, but was really scamming the people paying him, how can you maintain that this shouldn't be investigated by Congress? Why are you guys crying that this should not be investigated?

Yo, this is a thread about Joe Biden. If there's evidence that Hunter Biden did something corrupt of course it should be investigated. But without evidence that Joe was involved it's just another scandal involving a President's relative and is definitely not a basis for impeachment. That whole angle is just a clown show, meant to even the playing field a bit (Look, their guy got impeached too!!) and thus far has been demonstrated to be nothing but a desperate fever dream concocted by some truly corrupt politicians.

Hunter Biden was collecting money on the suggestion of providing access to Joe Biden's political power. How is that not about Joe Biden, or warranting of an investigation?

The purpose of an investigation is to investigate things and collect evidence. Your statement of "without evidence that Joe was involved" suggests that you want Congress to investigate this and collect evidence. Oddly, you are simultaneously expressing a desire for an investigation while telling us that they should not investigate this.

Except I never argued it didn't warrant an investigation. The Republicans have been investigating this for years now and have turned up 0 evidence of corruption on Joe Biden's part. Try harder, Tom.  ::)

Clown show. You're a part of it.  ;D

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 06, 2023, 06:07:57 PM »
Even under the scenario that Hunter Biden was collecting money under the guise of providing access to political power, but was really scamming the people paying him, how can you maintain that this shouldn't be investigated by Congress? Why are you guys crying that this should not be investigated?

Yo, this is a thread about Joe Biden. If there's evidence that Hunter Biden did something corrupt of course it should be investigated. But without evidence that Joe was involved it's just another scandal involving a President's relative and is definitely not a basis for impeachment. That whole angle is just a clown show, meant to even the playing field a bit (Look, their guy got impeached too!!) and thus far has been demonstrated to be nothing but a desperate fever dream concocted by some truly corrupt politicians.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: November 30, 2023, 09:10:42 PM »
That was a brilliant move on Hunter's part, really. He knows they don't have shit and he wants to make sure the world knows, too.

This whole thing is such a clown show, smoke and mirrors to try to convince the country that Biden is somehow an even bigger criminal than Trump. It plays well to the base (who almost by nature are suckers) and maybe some gullible independents so why not?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I created a FlatEarth GPT (Chatgpt)
« on: November 28, 2023, 02:10:14 PM »
More like FlatGPT amirite

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 18, 2023, 11:05:25 PM »
Tom loves expressing opinions as absolute facts. Bonus points for it being something he has no personal experience with. He just knows, somehow.  :o

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: November 14, 2023, 04:29:39 AM »
No, there are other large actors who can act well, or at least considerably better than Momoa. But then again, I don't think Aquaman needed to be played by an enormous guy to begin with. I'm pretty sure that Momoa was mostly cast because of his history of playing fierce badass characters, and they wanted to pre-emptively push back against people making jokes about how lame Aquaman is. Personally, I think that worrying so much about people making jokes on the Internet is a poor priority for a film studio, but, alas, Hollywood has yet to take advice from me.

I'm gonna disagree, because there have been versions of Aquaman that leaned into the badass burly trope in the comics and they tend to be the best iterations of the character. He's not usually such a himbo though.

In other news Loki is the best thing yet produced by the MCU. The ending (assuming it is over) was fantastic.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 31, 2023, 06:28:45 AM »
Nobody here claimed that prosecutors directly represent the victims of crimes. ???

People did argue here that we should just assume what a prosecutor is and what a prosecutor does based on "common sense".

Ha! I really stuck in your craw, huh?

For the record, though, no I didn't, but it's so sweet that you went off on a wild, irrelevant (and long-winded, you really put thought into it) tangent based on a misunderstanding of something I wrote, and I've barely even contributed to this particular discussion!!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 27, 2023, 09:34:43 PM »
Did you read any of the cherry picked quotes which I am deliberately misrepresenting or wilfully misunderstanding?
Fixed your post.

Where is your evidence that it is being misrepresented? The only evidence you have provided is your own understanding from popular culture on what a prosecutor is.

There's also common sense though, like understanding that the prosecutor has no motive to offer a deal unless the defendant is offering something useful to the prosecution. But you probably understand that and are just obfuscating ignorance in the service of your chosen narrative so of course common sense means nothing as far as you're concerned.

Not sure how common sense differentiates this.

I can almost believe that's true, but I know you better than that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 27, 2023, 06:48:59 PM »
Did you read any of the cherry picked quotes which I am deliberately misrepresenting or wilfully misunderstanding?
Fixed your post.

Where is your evidence that it is being misrepresented? The only evidence you have provided is your own understanding from popular culture on what a prosecutor is.

There's also common sense though, like understanding that the prosecutor has no motive to offer a deal unless the defendant is offering something useful to the prosecution. But you probably understand that and are just obfuscating ignorance in the service of your chosen narrative so of course common sense means nothing as far as you're concerned.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 26, 2023, 11:27:10 PM »
Yes, the deal is for truthful testimony, just like it is with all witnesses who flip, and truthful testimony must therefore be damaging to Trump, because otherwise the prosecution wouldn't be making deals  with these witnesses to testify to begin with. I don't think I can put it any more simply than that. The prosecution is not on Trump's side. They are not trying to help him. If they're asking people to testify and making deals with them to that effect, it's because their testimony will hurt Trump. That's how this works. That's how it's always worked. You're quibbling about a distinction without a difference.

That is how it is displayed in movies that prosecutors are against the defendant, but prosecutors are not meant to be on any one side of the case. Their duty is to truth and justice. See that previous sentence I quoted from Markjo's document on their duty:

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Prosecutors, whose duty is to seek justice rather than convictions90, should not place the desire for convictions ahead of the pursuit of unbiased testimony. Buying testimony with conditional leniency tips the scales of justice by inviting perjury.

The role of a prosecutor is a role which has duties to society, the alleged victim and the defendant suspected of the crime:

https://www.unodc.org/e4j/en/crime-prevention-criminal-justice/module-14/key-issues/2--general-issues--public-prosecutors-as-the-gate-keepers-of-criminal-justice.html

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In criminal cases, prosecutors are responsible for representing not only the interests of society at large, but also those of victims of crimes. They also have duties to other individuals, including persons suspected of a crime and witnesses.

https://www.maricopacountyattorney.org/DocumentCenter/View/106/The-California-Prosecutor-Integrity-Independence-Leadership-PDF?bidId=

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Prosecutors have a very unique role: Prosecutors represent society—all of the members of
society, including victims and defendants.
In this regard, prosecutors have a duty to ensure
the fairness of criminal proceedings. The United States Supreme Court noted in Berger v.
United States:

"[The prosecutor] is the representative not of an ordinary party to a
controversy, but of a sovereignty whose obligation to govern impartially is as
compelling as its obligation to govern at all; and whose interest, therefore, in
a criminal prosecution is not that it shall win a case, but that justice shall be
done."


Because of this role, the ethical standards imposed upon prosecutors are extraordinary;
prosecutorial misconduct is not tolerated.

See what I mean? He doesn't want to understand. Y'all are just wasting time trying to help him see a point that he refuses to see. I know, it's sad that some people are willfully ignorant when the facts don't match the narrative they want to tell. But that's the world we live in and Tom's practically its poster boy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 26, 2023, 05:23:34 PM »
I honestly don't understand why people keep arguing with Tom about this. He's just wrong and you're not going to convince him otherwise.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 22, 2023, 04:18:01 PM »
True.  Allow me to rephrase:
If she invokes it, the deal is off.
Seems you are truly for weaponizing prosecution against US citizens, then.

No surprise there.

This is the way the law works. Plea bargains are all part of the judicial process but when your boy Trump is involved all of a sudden it's something nefarious, you really are ridiculous lmao

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 21, 2023, 06:02:26 AM »
Why not ride the wave of the trial, embarass the entire georga persecution office, and then counter sue for defermation when you win?

Dave's been drinking again.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 20, 2023, 11:13:03 PM »
ITT: Tom doesn't understand what a plea bargain is lmao

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 19, 2023, 07:11:18 PM »
Sydney Powell has pleaded guilty to racketeering and attempted election interferance because she did nothing wrong and has a mountain of evidence to prove it was fraud.

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207076719/sidney-powell-georgia-guilty-plea

I'm sure she only pleaded because they gave her a sweet deal. Maybe a few months in a Club Fed "prison", then riches, bitches, the whole nine. The Deep State at work helping to get at our poor, misunderstood, benign ex-president.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: October 10, 2023, 03:30:50 PM »
Well this is ironic



It's disappointing. But people forget that the border wall was never a specifically Trump, or even Republican, concept. Clinton's administration was the first to start construction on a border between Mexico and the US and Obama added to it.

Honestly I think it's a mistake politically on Biden's part, even though those funds were appropriated for the wall in 2019 and the money would have just languished in limbo if he hadn't approved it. We probably shouldn't be doing it if we need to waive 20 federal laws and regulations to build it. In the end I think the constant cost of repairs and upgrades aren't worth it.

Imagine if Trump had actually delivered on his promises and built a solid wall from end to end. Keeping the wall stable long term would be a nightmare fiscally. It already pretty much is, given that if it weren't for the need to repair sections of the wall that had already been built by the time Trump was president he might have actually been able to deliver on his promise. Of course Trump said he would force Mexico to pay for it, giving the illusion to people susceptible to his bullshit that the financial issue was solved. But any rational person could see that that was always just a pipe dream, as indeed it ended up being. And despite Trump's promises that his financial acumen would allow the wall to be built more cheaply and efficiently than previous administrations, he ended up spending five times per mile more than previous administrations had, a cost that we as taxpayers had to pay. Oops.

So we've been trying to build this wall for nearly 30 years now, and have made little progress, and clearly what's already been done has done little to nothing to stop the border crossings. If the wall worked like Trump insisted it would we wouldn't be facing this crisis now. It was a failed experiment, and it's time to abandon it and try to find a solution that actually works.

The wall is a financial and logistical nightmare, and it demonstrably failed in its intended purpose. That's why Democrats were against it, and that's why Biden promised not to add to it. There's no way this decision isn't going to cost Biden politically. If he's doing it only for the financial reasons (which I think are offset by the negatives) he should have waited until after he won the election. Caving now makes him look weak.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly
« on: October 09, 2023, 05:30:16 PM »
I expressed my laughter through the power of the emoticon  :D

In other words, another anonymous troll.

Kindred spirits, we are!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly
« on: October 09, 2023, 05:12:52 PM »
Actually you are. Not part of the fringes, though. More like part of the mainstream corral with all the other clueless farm animals. BAAA!!!

Right, like any cultist you think you're one of the chosen few privy to the real truth, never mind what pesky irrelevancies like "science" have to say. You must really feel special not to be one of the sheep!  :D

Maybe you should change your name to Ranty.

Why? Does my amusement at your delusions come across as ranting? I promise, I'm just laughing at you.

Ranting is what you're doing, but please don't stop, it's frequently hilarious!

I can't see you laughing, though.

Show me how you're laughing, send me a video.

I expressed my laughter through the power of the emoticon  :D

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly
« on: October 09, 2023, 04:12:22 PM »
Actually you are. Not part of the fringes, though. More like part of the mainstream corral with all the other clueless farm animals. BAAA!!!

Right, like any cultist you think you're one of the chosen few privy to the real truth, never mind what pesky irrelevancies like "science" have to say. You must really feel special not to be one of the sheep!  :D

Maybe you should change your name to Ranty.

Why? Does my amusement at your delusions come across as ranting? I promise, I'm just laughing at you.

Ranting is what you're doing, but please don't stop, it's frequently hilarious!

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