The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Community => Topic started by: Tom Bishop on January 21, 2014, 05:25:22 AM
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I recently read that Dogecoin is sending the Jamaican bobsled team to the Olympics (http://www.dailydot.com/news/dogecoin-jamaica-bobsled-olympics/), and it got me thinking. What we need to get this site off the ground is a publicity stunt.
We could issue a challenge, such as when LifeLock's CEO gave out his social security number and challenged people to steal his identity. Or it could be a contest, such as when a radio station held a "hold your wee for a Wii" water drinking contest.
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Sponsoring something would be expensive. It'd be awesome to sponsor an astronaut or a south pole expedition but its out of the question money wise.
I can't help thinking the best way is to do something controversial and cheap. Like starting a twitter war with an eminent astrologist or maybe making a youtube video that goes viral. the thing is both are very hit and miss and there would be a lot of misses before we actually hit upon something that worked.
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We do have the recipe for Dr Birley's phosphorous tonic ... maybe a relaunch?
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We do have the recipe for Dr Birley's phosphorous tonic ... maybe a relaunch?
Why all of the cheap gimmick ideas? You can also go on other conspiracy websites and talk about the flat earth. I have done it before and some of those people will check in here.
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Or, ya know. Something like my suggestion that we begin work on an annotated edition of Earth Not a Globe, with the intent to self publish a "definitive" new edition including both all of Rowbotham's original work and society members' annotations.
But nah. Twitter war with an astrologist is probably better. Nothing lends credibility to the Flat Earth Society like arguing with someone who thinks the zodiac constellations control our fates. Really, Thork?
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Another separate idea is to work on modern proof of flatness. Many people get on here and scoff at the idea that some of our best proof was recorded in 1850. We need to work on more modern stuff, and post it on TFES. Most of you have seen the work I am doing about the house across 4.4 miles of water. That work needs to be completed and compiled succinctly. Other people could do projects and the ZC verify the work and see if they believe it. The work could be posted on here as modern proof. I think it will go a long way in showing people the truth.
Just think if you came on here and saw 5-10 experiments demonstrating flatness. You would give this idea a much more serious thought. I no when I first got here, I thought to myself "why has none of these people done their own experiments?"
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But nah. Twitter war with an astrologist is probably better. Nothing lends credibility to the Flat Earth Society like arguing with someone who thinks the zodiac constellations control our fates. Really, Thork?
Sorry, I meant astronomer. :-[
You can also go on other conspiracy websites and talk about the flat earth. I have done it before and some of those people will check in here.
That's a lot of work to reach not many people. You also have to get them back here. Most will just want to have the debate on their website.
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Nothing says financial stability like a currency based on a meme.
What we need to get this site off the ground is a publicity stunt.
I like this idea. But it should be a stunt that proves the earth is round flat. Back to basics would be to get a douchebag excellent orator like Samuel B Rowbotham probably was. Put him on some retarded excellent radio show that's likely to enjoy stirring shit up be sympathetic. I'm thinking Rush Limbaugh.
Or it could be a contest, such as when a radio station held a "hold your wee for a Wii" water drinking contest.
Someone died doing that.
(http://mynintendonews.com/2013/09/28/radio-station-may-lose-license-after-death-in-hold-your-wee-for-a-wii-contest/)
We do have the recipe for Dr Birley's phosphorous tonic ... maybe a relaunch?
Good idea, but I'd check it first for the arsenic.
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We do have the recipe for Dr Birley's phosphorous tonic ... maybe a relaunch?
Good idea, but I'd check it first for the arsenic.
Its like a super sugary version of flat coca cola.
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We do have the recipe for Dr Birley's phosphorous tonic ... maybe a relaunch?
Good idea, but I'd check it first for the arsenic.
Its like a super sugary version of flat coca cola.
I really like this idea. Flat Earth Cola, and all the proceeds go to the FES. You should develop a business plan and put this on kickstarter right away.
Or, ya know. Something like my suggestion that we begin work on an annotated edition of Earth Not a Globe, with the intent to self publish a "definitive" new edition including both all of Rowbotham's original work and society members' annotations.
But nah. Twitter war with an astrologist is probably better. Nothing lends credibility to the Flat Earth Society like arguing with someone who thinks the zodiac constellations control our fates. Really, Thork?
You seem upset, but there is no need. They are talking about a PR stunt, you are talking about a more substantial work for the FES; both should be undertaken.
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We do have the recipe for Dr Birley's phosphorous tonic ... maybe a relaunch?
Good idea, but I'd check it first for the arsenic.
Its like a super sugary version of flat coca cola.
With phosphor for vigor?
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We do have the recipe for Dr Birley's phosphorous tonic ... maybe a relaunch?
Good idea, but I'd check it first for the arsenic.
Its like a super sugary version of flat coca cola.
With phosphor for vigor?
Phosphoric acid. Its in coca cola as well.
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Send out a press release to talk about the scism in TFES and what that means for the movement. That sort of thing always gets them going.
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Send out a press release to talk about the scism in TFES and what that means for the movement. That sort of thing always gets them going.
I second this. This is probably the best first move we can make.
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Send out a press release to talk about the scism in TFES and what that means for the movement. That sort of thing always gets them going.
I second this. This is probably the best first move we can make.
We're (the Council) already doing this. Tom agreed to be the one to contact the press, since he's more or less our president.
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Send out a press release to talk about the scism in TFES and what that means for the movement. That sort of thing always gets them going.
I second this. This is probably the best first move we can make.
We're (the Council) already doing this. Tom agreed to be the one to contact the press, since he's more or less our president.
No, he isn't. I'm not adverse to the idea, but he isn't.
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Send out a press release to talk about the scism in TFES and what that means for the movement. That sort of thing always gets them going.
It would be more interesting, news-wise if someone popped a cap in someone's ass. What soldiers do we have that we know can be trusted to do some bird?
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Send out a press release to talk about the scism in TFES and what that means for the movement. That sort of thing always gets them going.
I second this. This is probably the best first move we can make.
We're (the Council) already doing this. Tom agreed to be the one to contact the press, since he's more or less our president.
No, he isn't. I'm not adverse to the idea, but he isn't.
I did say more or less.
tim bishop, tim bishop, what is he your "leader"?
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We're (the Council) already doing this. Tom agreed to be the one to contact the press, since he's more or less our president. the only reason this site is still going.
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We're (the Council) already doing this. Tom agreed to be the one to contact the press, since he's more or less our president. the only reason this site is still going.
Please refrain from being Crusty in the upper fora.
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Another idea: We can all do a group Reddit AMA about the Flat Earth Society.
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Also, if Tom is going to be the official spokesperson, could he at least change his avatar? We can't let C. Wayne Holland, DDS of North Carolina unknowingly become the public face of the latest Flat Earth Society splinter group.
He's hit the point where a reverse Google image search of his avatar suggests a text search for "Tom Bishop", and usually finds no references to C. Wayne Holland. It's pretty much his trademark at this point.
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What's the aim of the PR?
Is it to make this forum more recognised, is it to promote flat earth theory, is it to expose a conspiracy, is it all three or is it something I haven't mentioned?
The PR should be tailored to achieve those aims of which some require this society to get its 'ducks in a row' i.e. a complete and agreed upon flat earth theory or a complete section on the conspiracy.
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The PR should be tailored to achieve those aims of which some require this society to get its 'ducks in a row' i.e. a complete and agreed upon flat earth theory or a complete section on the conspiracy.
Yawn. No. Whilst you Markjo and Rama Set keep asking for this, it's not our priority at all. We encourage a diverse set of ideas and opinions and I know I certainly don't want to force other FErs into accepting my particular brand of FET.
I get that it would make it infinitely easier for you and your cohorts to make threads in roving hoards on a narrower spectrum of information, but my responsibility is not to you. It's to the Flat Earth Society, so suck it up Ringo and stop whining like a little girl.
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Another idea: We can all do a group Reddit AMA about the Flat Earth Society.
This is a brilliant idea. We can do it immediately after the news articles start coming out.
It's all very well to generate publicity, but what is the media going to make of this place? What exactly has been done here to qualify this "society" as a serious contender to the old one? Tintagel is quite right when she suggests some actual work ought to be done first.
I think a nice new annotated edition of Zetetic Astronomy is a cool idea. Or maybe something relatively inexpensive, like a campaign to revamp and really flesh out the wiki, compile Flat Earth literature like Daniel did, release regular (or semi-regular) articles explaining individual aspects of FET in a detailed yet accessible fashion, or maybe addressing the latest NASA press release (NASAwatch - "we watch globularist propaganda so you don't have to"?), pointing out exactly why we know they're full of shit. I'm sure some of us would be more than happy to volunteer in any such projects. The council might even hammer out some kind of distinct manifesto, outlining the precise principles and goals of the society.
A slightly different logo and a well-run forum isn't quite enough to distinguish one organization from another. Of course, it'd be a little easier if there was some variation in the name; the "Universal Zetetic Society" would be good, lending itself to the claim of being the rightful successor to Blount, Carpenter, and Rowbotham, but it just isn't as catchy or recognizable as the "Flat Earth Society". It will have to be entirely the efforts of the members here to set this place apart.
I have an opposite view. I'm afraid that if we don't start getting a strong influx of noobs soon, regulars will start abandoning this forum and returning to dotorg. Something like Tintagel's annotated ENaG (which I'm strongly in support of, btw) is going to take time, and I'm not certain we actually have that much time. I feel that getting the forum popular should be our top priority.
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Let it be noted, on thif day, that The Holy Council did desireth the noob, and make planf for fuch as to attracteth the noob. Let it be further noted, on thif day, that wenn fuch noobf doth appear, there fhall be much howleth and cryeth and gesticulateth unto the noob. Fpake fuchlike: Fucking noobs cometh here. But in their heartf they fhall be content. And all fhall be good. And all fhall be well.
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Another idea: We can all do a group Reddit AMA about the Flat Earth Society.
This is a brilliant idea. We can do it immediately after the news articles start coming out.
It's all very well to generate publicity, but what is the media going to make of this place? What exactly has been done here to qualify this "society" as a serious contender to the old one? Tintagel is quite right when she suggests some actual work ought to be done first.
I think a nice new annotated edition of Zetetic Astronomy is a cool idea. Or maybe something relatively inexpensive, like a campaign to revamp and really flesh out the wiki, compile Flat Earth literature like Daniel did, release regular (or semi-regular) articles explaining individual aspects of FET in a detailed yet accessible fashion, or maybe addressing the latest NASA press release (NASAwatch - "we watch globularist propaganda so you don't have to"?), pointing out exactly why we know they're full of shit. I'm sure some of us would be more than happy to volunteer in any such projects. The council might even hammer out some kind of distinct manifesto, outlining the precise principles and goals of the society.
A slightly different logo and a well-run forum isn't quite enough to distinguish one organization from another. Of course, it'd be a little easier if there was some variation in the name; the "Universal Zetetic Society" would be good, lending itself to the claim of being the rightful successor to Blount, Carpenter, and Rowbotham, but it just isn't as catchy or recognizable as the "Flat Earth Society". It will have to be entirely the efforts of the members here to set this place apart.
I have an opposite view. I'm afraid that if we don't start getting a strong influx of noobs soon, regulars will start abandoning this forum and returning to dotorg. Something like Tintagel's annotated ENaG (which I'm strongly in support of, btw) is going to take time, and I'm not certain we actually have that much time. I feel that getting the forum popular should be our top priority.
It's a time consuming process - of course the text and diagrams are freely available (and I can even scan my hard copy, if there aren't print quality diagrams available elsewhere), the layout is a snap, cover art is a no-brainer. THe time-consuming process would be the annotations.
Mea culpa, here. I misinterpreted "PR" as being an abbreviation for "Press Release." What can I say - too many years in marketing, and thought that beginning work on a project like this would make a dandy topic for a press release, is all.
Speaking of that, I have another idea I've been noodling on that may fit this topic. I'll make a proof-of-concept for and share here soon.
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Let it be noted, on thif day, that The Holy Council did desireth the noob, and make planf for fuch as to attracteth the noob. Let it be further noted, on thif day, that wenn fuch noobf doth appear, there fhall be much howleth and cryeth and gesticulateth unto the noob. Fpake fuchlike: Fucking noobs cometh here. But in their heartf they fhall be content. And all shall be good. And all fhall be well.
Crusty, not in the upper fora.
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Well, since I mentioned it, I need to get some input anyway. New idea I've been noodling on: FES "tracts" laid out so they can be easily printed with any inkjet, cut, folded, and distributed., allowing all of our members to easily spread the word to folks who likely haven't heard of us (or the old site). Each one would be dedicated to answering a question or two from the FAQ or covering a fact or three about earth's shape, with the back page prompting the reader to visit us here.
I can design them so that 3 or 4 tracts print on one sheet of paper, and make them black-and-white so they can be easily and cheaply printed and/or copied. What I'd like to have is some input on content. I could easily use some Rowbotham diagrams and snippets of the FAQ, but do we want to get into other, more modern ideas like aether or DE?
Alternatively, is this a terrible idea?
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Crusty, not in the upper fora.
Again, that isn't my name.
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Well, since I mentioned it, I need to get some input anyway. New idea I've been noodling on: FES "tracts" laid out so they can be easily printed with any inkjet, cut, folded, and distributed.
Didn't Rowbotham already do this? Just print his stuff.
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Well, since I mentioned it, I need to get some input anyway. New idea I've been noodling on: FES "tracts" laid out so they can be easily printed with any inkjet, cut, folded, and distributed.
Didn't Rowbotham already do this? Just print his stuff.
Have you seen a physical copy of Earth Not a Globe, or tried to read the whole thing? I have a copy, and I have read it several times. It is by no means a tract. It's fairly weighty, actually, both in terms of length of the book, and in the "dryness" of the language. It would be like handing out copies of Euclid's "The Elements" to try to entice people to study mathematics.
Also, modern FET contains some improvements on Rowbotham's original work. That said, it certainly would be a major source of content, albeit very distilled.
What I'm talking about is a small, business-card sized folded piece of paper, compelling graphic on the front "Do people REALLY believe the Earth is flat?" or similar hook, that unfolds with 6 small panels of factoids and ends with a call to action to visit the site.
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Have you seen a physical copy of Earth Not a Globe, or tried to read the whole thing?
No and not really. But I'm pretty sure he, or maybe one of his gang, did print out leaflets and hand them out outside ummm I don't know tram depots. Maybe I dreamt it.
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Something like Tintagel's annotated ENaG (which I'm strongly in support of, btw) is going to take time, and I'm not certain we actually have that much time. I feel that getting the forum popular should be our top priority.
There are ways of generating traffic that do not entail running to news outlets. Remember, once this FES makes its grand entrance on the media scene, it won't be able to redo it. It should have something to show for itself if people are to take serious note. You need to make it count. After all, anyone can set up a forum and declare themselves the new Flat Earth Society. Why should this place get any attention?
If you're really worried about people getting bored and slipping away, provide them something to do here. Give the members some projects to complete and some goals to reach; put them to work and create a more productive environment. Since you consider Tintagel's ENaG to be too long-term, how about the other ideas I threw out there (that everyone seems to be ignoring)?
Okay. Let's discuss that in another thread, though.
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Another idea: We can all do a group Reddit AMA about the Flat Earth Society.
This is a good idea.
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The PR should be tailored to achieve those aims of which some require this society to get its 'ducks in a row' i.e. a complete and agreed upon flat earth theory or a complete section on the conspiracy.
Yawn. No. Whilst you Markjo and Rama Set keep asking for this, it's not our priority at all. We encourage a diverse set of ideas and opinions and I know I certainly don't want to force other FErs into accepting my particular brand of FET.
I get that it would make it infinitely easier for you and your cohorts to make threads in roving hoards on a narrower spectrum of information, but my responsibility is not to you. It's to the Flat Earth Society, so suck it up Ringo and stop whining like a little girl.
If you want to make your post into some kind of passive insult by calling me a little girl then that's up to you. I'm sorry but I'm not going to entertain you further on that point, it's ridiculous.
I don't care about a coherent flat earth theory. I just think it's wise to understand what it is you're trying to promote. I used that as an example because if you chose to promote that aspect of the Flat earth society then I suggest you get it right or you will look foolish. If the council (not just yourself by the way) thinks it's right to have multiple flat earth theories then I suggest you promote that in the wikki etc.. and give the alternative theories. At the moment it seems to be in disarray.
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The PR should be tailored to achieve those aims of which some require this society to get its 'ducks in a row' i.e. a complete and agreed upon flat earth theory or a complete section on the conspiracy.
Yawn. No. Whilst you Markjo and Rama Set keep asking for this, it's not our priority at all. We encourage a diverse set of ideas and opinions and I know I certainly don't want to force other FErs into accepting my particular brand of FET.
I get that it would make it infinitely easier for you and your cohorts to make threads in roving hoards on a narrower spectrum of information, but my responsibility is not to you. It's to the Flat Earth Society, so suck it up Ringo and stop whining like a little girl.
If you want to make your post into some kind of passive insult by calling me a little girl then that's up to you. I'm sorry but I'm not going to entertain you further on that point, it's ridiculous.
I don't care about a coherent flat earth theory. I just think it's wise to understand what it is you're trying to promote. I used that as an example because if you chose to promote that aspect of the Flat earth society then I suggest you get it right or you will look foolish. If the council (not just yourself by the way) thinks it's right to have multiple flat earth theories then I suggest you promote that in the wikki etc.. and give the alternative theories. At the moment it seems to be in disarray.
We plan to. It's one of our bigger goals
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Perhaps it would be a good idea to have a product worth promoting before you worry about how to best promote it.
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We could create an officialflatearthsociety tumblr. That could potentially get us a lot of PR.
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We could create an officialflatearthsociety tumblr. That could potentially get us a lot of PR.
Tumblr has a lot of undesirables.
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We could create an officialflatearthsociety tumblr. That could potentially get us a lot of PR.
Tumblr has a lot of undesirables.
Alas, beggars can't be choosers.
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We could create an officialflatearthsociety tumblr. That could potentially get us a lot of PR.
Tumblr has a lot of undesirables.
So does Reddit. So does FES, for that matter
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We could create an officialflatearthsociety tumblr. That could potentially get us a lot of PR.
Tumblr has a lot of undesirables.
So does Reddit. So does FES, for that matter
So does FES
So does FES
QFT.