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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 16, 2017, 12:19:51 PM »
Before people start fighting me over the subject, I first want to say that actually I am a Christian and I go to church every Sunday and participate in many of the church's activities. However, I am really convinced that if we go back the moment humans were created on this earth, and take away every religion, there will be world peace... I don't know about you but I would really love to know your opinions.

I have to disagree with you.

Historically speaking, we cannot attribute as much of the conflict and violence in recorded human history to religious differences as is typically assumed. One can look at an obvious example of religious war, such as the First Crusade, and look at how differences in religion were used to start that conflict.

On the other hand, the largest conflicts and outbreaks of violence are usually caused by political and social factors. For example, we can look at World War I. Most of the nations involved in the "war to end all wars" nominally had some denomenation of Christianity as their official state religion, but there were also countries and empires involved that were predominantly Muslim or Hindu. The outbreak of total war between 1914 and 1918 wasn't precipitated by religion. Instead, rampant nationalism (mostly in Western Europe) from the late 1800s onwards had created a situation where widespread conflict was almost entirely sure to break out at some point. The war that broke out after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand occured because of diplomatic, political, and nationalist choices.

As far as religiously-motivated violence and conflict go, I'm sure that many of the commentators before me have mentioned that religion is often just used as an excuse to justify someone's actions. In far too many of the cases where people blame religion, they're using it as a convenient excuse to get away, quite literally, with murder. If we didn't have religion, they'd be blaming ethnicity, race, language, economics, politics, social traditions, or any of the other myriad things that people use to differentiate themselves.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: NASA Conspiracy History
« on: July 16, 2017, 11:55:53 AM »
That makes sense. As I said previously, I'm just trying to understand the process of knowledge creation in various schools of thought, and how that process affects what information will be regarded, for lack of a better term, 'canon' within that specific group.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: NASA Conspiracy History
« on: July 15, 2017, 07:27:01 PM »
I'm just trying to understand the epistemology of non-mainstream cosmologies. If I could ask a further question, how do you decide on whether a source of information is reliable enough to include in your wiki? I know that you said you have discussions about this, but what are your criteria for inclusion?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: NASA Conspiracy History
« on: July 15, 2017, 05:00:36 PM »
So, the primary research methodology for finding material for the wiki is a simple Google search?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: NASA Conspiracy History
« on: July 15, 2017, 04:42:17 PM »
Apologies, that was poorly phrased.

What I meant to ask was why the section entitled "Evidence for the Conspiracy" starts with Apollo. If the Mercury and Gemini programs preceded Apollo, then surely there should be evidence from those two programs as well? There's a quick reference to a statement made by LBJ in 1958, but no mention is made of the programs that ran before Apollo started in 1963.

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Flat Earth Theory / NASA Conspiracy History
« on: July 15, 2017, 02:08:24 PM »
If I may ask, why does the history of the NASA conspiracy in the FAQ section only start with Apollo 1?

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