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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Repost: Geocentric? More like Egocentric
« on: December 03, 2015, 07:45:54 AM »
I am simply repeating what is stated in the Geocentric model.

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Flat Earth Theory / Repost: Geocentric? More like Egocentric
« on: December 02, 2015, 08:36:25 AM »
This is a repost from the original FES: after vibrating the man who wrote this, I got his premission to repost his topic. Tell me what you think.


Let's analyse the implications of what an geocentric SS means.
It's not difficult to find the distance to any planet using a method called parralax.
So we measure the distance to Neptune, could be any other planet but it's my favorite. Now we know the distance we can use geometry to figure out its speed. Since it is suppose to orbit earth once per 24hours, lets make an equation, making no assumptions at all.

If an object moves in a circular path, we can understand that the distance it travels, divided by the time it takes equals the speed(change in position)/(change in time). Since we know the radius of the sircoolar path, which is the distance from centre to path. We can determine the orbital distance, which is the circumference=2pi*r

so, we get Speed=(2Pi*r)/(time)

I have personally measured Neptune to be approximately 4.7 billion km away from earth, I work as an astronomer, you see.

now the input: Speed=(2*pi*4.7 10^12m)/(24h*60m/h*60s/m) and we get?

Speed=341 793 645 m/s

Clearly this is impossible. Unless neptunians have Alcubierre drive, which I find highly implausible.

To make a model, based on science, which contradicts the most fundamental laws of physics? Let me ask you, is truly egocentric by definition to believe everything revolves around me!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why earth is flat
« on: November 06, 2015, 01:59:53 PM »
Just bumping

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Let's do some science, fellas!
« on: November 04, 2015, 07:15:18 AM »
I suggest you look up some scientific litterature.

To what end? This forum has proved time and again that scientific literature gets treated the same way as any social data does- interpreted loosely enough to satisfy any ends you like.
Shit, you could probably do a bit of digging and find something to support the theory that the earth is a tetrahedron made of fermented crab apples.

I'm a dedicated round-earther. I don't believe for a second that the earth is flat. All I'm saying by referencing the elephant and blind man story, is that individual perception is not necessarily a firm basis for truth.

Individual observation, or personal interpretation of said observation doesn't necessarily make for scientific data.

Sometimes the truth can't be directly observed.

Really? Proven huh? Are you one of those who thinks all space travel is faked too?
My first post was not trolling at all, it was sarcasm to imply how flat earthers think science works, just because they don't understand science they get scared of it, I don't blant them. But you can't read every article posted on "I fucking love science" because that's a lot of sci-fi speculations, other science media too. Try gong to a library instead, maybe you'll find some proper science papers there.

Above: evidence that round earthers are so blinded by their own virtiol that they don't even realize when they're arguing with another round earther.

Wrong, Earth is flat my friend.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sun
« on: November 04, 2015, 06:34:07 AM »
Yes that is what you implied
what is it's energy source?
The earth is the sun's source.  We are all in it together. 


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Let's do some science, fellas!
« on: November 03, 2015, 08:31:41 PM »
I suggest you look up some scientific litterature.

To what end? This forum has proved time and again that scientific literature gets treated the same way as any social data does- interpreted loosely enough to satisfy any ends you like.
Shit, you could probably do a bit of digging and find something to support the theory that the earth is a tetrahedron made of fermented crab apples.

I'm a dedicated round-earther. I don't believe for a second that the earth is flat. All I'm saying by referencing the elephant and blind man story, is that individual perception is not necessarily a firm basis for truth.

Individual observation, or personal interpretation of said observation doesn't necessarily make for scientific data.

Sometimes the truth can't be directly observed.

Really? Proven huh? Are you one of those who thinks all space travel is faked too?
My first post was not trolling at all, it was sarcasm to imply how flat earthers think science works, just because they don't understand science they get scared of it, I don't blant them. But you can't read every article posted on "I fucking love science" because that's a lot of sci-fi speculations, other science media too. Try gong to a library instead, maybe you'll find some proper science papers there.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sun
« on: November 03, 2015, 08:11:38 PM »
what is it's energy source?
The earth is the sun's source.  We are all in it together. 

The sun is just a focus of energy much similar to the bright spot that burns ants as you hold a magnifying glass above them. 

If you can grasp that the energy burning the ants is NOT a physical object, then you can begin to understand that sun that turns above your head.
Wait.. The earth fuels the sun??

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sun
« on: November 03, 2015, 04:34:31 PM »
Get a grip, man! You have to understand there is a lot we don't understand about the sun of course, but we are beginning to understand the prosess of fusion pretty good, we can also recreate the conditions.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What keeps the sun & moon from falling?
« on: November 03, 2015, 04:29:38 PM »
I don't even know how to respond to that, you are clearly trolling. But yeah you seem pretty confident, how do you explain universal speed limit by "ether phyics" or what you call it? I dont know what that is. Also you did not prove anything you just copypasted a load of bullcrap, I have read the theory, its a pretty damn good one too.

And no, gravity waves are just  theoretical yet, but we have some strong indications they exist yes.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Let's do some science, fellas!
« on: November 03, 2015, 04:02:43 PM »
I suggest you look up some scientific litterature.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Let's do some science, fellas!
« on: November 03, 2015, 03:23:06 PM »
Observation: earth looks flat
Hypothese: earth is flat
Further Investigation: earth looks flat from over here too
Hypothese Confirmed: earth is flat
I did a science!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What keeps the sun & moon from falling?
« on: November 03, 2015, 03:17:02 PM »
 Your essay bears no touch in reality. Einstein's theory of relativity is commonly accepted amongst scientists all over the world and its wild predictions has all been correct and proven except gravity waves, we still need to detect them and there are great chances they will by the end of 2015.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What keeps the sun & moon from falling?
« on: November 03, 2015, 07:12:18 AM »
What a load of morons in here, everyone knows the curvature of spacetime makes objects fall towards each other, the moon is falling to earth, but the speed is too great so it never hits. Newton thaught us this, Einstein explained it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sun
« on: November 03, 2015, 07:06:45 AM »
I have been reading about the "spotlight sun"
How does the spotlight create enough heat to melt Tarmac, buckle railway lines, what is it's energy source?

Unknown.  There have been several assumptions made about the sun's energy source even among round earth scientists.  In the 1800s, it was presumed that the gas pressure and the sun's own gravity created the heat.  The mathematics involved implied that the age of the sun was 32 million years.

Today, the assumption that hydrogen fusion is the source of the energy implies that the age of the sun is about 4-5 billion years. 

Both were considered correct at the time, neither may be accurate.  We just don't know. (and that's okay!)

If the sun was just burning gas, maybe it would burn in a few million years. However, we have learned alot about fusion since the 18' hundreds and specially thanks to Einstein. And we know how fusion reactions work, we can calculate the size of the sun, and see what it is made of. This makes it very clear that fusion has to take place in the core of the sun. And that also makes perfect sence with the energy output. We can even recreate the same conditions in fusion reactors on the surface of earth. To say we don't know what fuels the sun, is ignorant.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do you believe the Earth is Flat ?
« on: November 02, 2015, 10:34:27 PM »
The spin of the earth creates centripetal forces that makes it buldge at the equator and compress at the poles. The faster the spin, the flatter the planet.

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Yes because stars are very far away. Some stars change slight in position due to earth's orbit. We can use this angle of change and the distance earth has moved to calculate the distance to these stars. The tecnique is called star parallax and only works on relative close stars, within a hundred light years.

Thank you for your answer, but this is not what I am asking.

You asked if star maps are 100% accurate when earth is on the other side if the sun. I answered yes. But the real 100% answer is of course no, the star maps are not 100% accurate. But the star parallax is so small and only detctable through telescopes, so the angle of change is neglectable.

How do you know that these star maps are '100 %' accurate?

As an amataur astronomer, I use star maps almost every day.

You probably misunderstood the question, but thanks for your opinion.

I have read your question many times now, and you ask very specific as I have interpreted:
Are star maps accurate throughout the year? And my experience is yes, star charts, as you call them, are accurate even tho earth has moved. And it's not just my opinion, ask any astronomer.


I know that you can see the stars throughout the year as shown on star maps, but that's not what I mean.
Let's see if other people understand it. Maybe Flat Earthers can, as they are not assuming all kind of things.
Thanks anyway!

Okay, sorry my background in astronomy could not help your astronomy related question. Maybe you should specify what you mean next time and stop wasting everyone's time. Hope you find some half dumb flat earther to answer your flat earth question with some half dumb flat earth "logic". I'm out!

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Yes because stars are very far away. Some stars change slight in position due to earth's orbit. We can use this angle of change and the distance earth has moved to calculate the distance to these stars. The tecnique is called star parallax and only works on relative close stars, within a hundred light years.

Thank you for your answer, but this is not what I am asking.

You asked if star maps are 100% accurate when earth is on the other side if the sun. I answered yes. But the real 100% answer is of course no, the star maps are not 100% accurate. But the star parallax is so small and only detctable through telescopes, so the angle of change is neglectable.

How do you know that these star maps are '100 %' accurate?

As an amataur astronomer, I use star maps almost every day.

You probably misunderstood the question, but thanks for your opinion.

I have read your question many times now, and you ask very specific as I have interpreted:
Are star maps accurate throughout the year? And my experience is yes, star charts, as you call them, are accurate even tho earth has moved. And it's not just my opinion, ask any astronomer.

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Yes because stars are very far away. Some stars change slight in position due to earth's orbit. We can use this angle of change and the distance earth has moved to calculate the distance to these stars. The tecnique is called star parallax and only works on relative close stars, within a hundred light years.

Thank you for your answer, but this is not what I am asking.

You asked if star maps are 100% accurate when earth is on the other side if the sun. I answered yes. But the real 100% answer is of course no, the star maps are not 100% accurate. But the star parallax is so small and only detctable through telescopes, so the angle of change is neglectable.

How do you know that these star maps are '100 %' accurate?

As an amataur astronomer, I use star maps almost every day.

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Yes because stars are very far away. Some stars change slight in position due to earth's orbit. We can use this angle of change and the distance earth has moved to calculate the distance to these stars. The tecnique is called star parallax and only works on relative close stars, within a hundred light years.

Thank you for your answer, but this is not what I am asking.

You asked if star maps are 100% accurate when earth is on the other side if the sun. I answered yes. But the real 100% answer is of course no, the star maps are not 100% accurate. But the star parallax is so small and only detctable through telescopes, so the angle of change is neglectable.

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Yes because stars are very far away. Some stars change slight in position due to earth's orbit. We can use this angle of change and the distance earth has moved to calculate the distance to these stars. The tecnique is called star parallax and only works on relative close stars, within a hundred light years.

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