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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 24, 2021, 05:31:42 AM »
I see that the commie sympathizers are now coming out to argue that people should die based on a future possibility.

That's because people like you are a net negative to society and no one gives an F if you die.

You have your choice. Not societies problem if your brain is so retarded it can't critically think.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 24, 2021, 12:00:01 AM »
So what's the conspiracy? Big pharma wants to kill billions of its customers?

Governments in the developed world want to suicide their nation's in favour of the developing world which aren't getting the vaccines?

Governments want to kill off all the people that do what they are told in favour of leaving all the anarchists?

Like, what's the endgame here? What's the point?

If conspiracy theorists took just 2 seconds to try and see the logic of their conspiracy they'd know it doesn't add up

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 23, 2021, 11:01:58 AM »
I guess we're talking about Nazis and politics and not about the corona virus vaccine?

Personally, I feel great after my 2 shots. I can't wait to catch the virus and then spread it to every anti vaxxer flapwit looking for a Darwin award

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 21, 2021, 10:02:08 AM »
So whats your opinion on covid Tom. Is it something that if you contracted that you would be worried about? Lots of people talked like you and have ended up dying after getting infected with the sars cov-2. I'm fairly certain all those right wing shock jock radio show announcers were not at end stage cancer or died from a traffic accident

Also why would you be happy to take Ivermectin from a Big Pharma company that gave the world Vioxx when even they (Merck) say it appears to be ineffective for treating or preventing covid

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 20, 2021, 06:14:55 PM »
Peter Evans didn't say they were reporting deaths that way. Toronto Public Health did.

Also, it's not that Peter Evans:



LOL, I like how he makes a point of NOT being that loser aussie chef :)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 20, 2021, 06:04:52 PM »
Oh God, that Pete Evans quack

The same muppet that tried to flog off some machine that could among other miraculous feats, cure you of the corona virus for $15K lol

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-24/pete-evans-fined-25000-by-tga-over-coronavirus-biocharger-claims/12183050

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Celebrity chef Pete Evans has been fined more than $25,000 by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) over claims he made about a product called a "BioCharger".
Key points:

    Evans said in a video: "It's programmed with a thousand different recipes and there's a couple in there for the Wuhan coronavirus."
    The TGA is focusing particularly on products claiming to treat coronavirus at the moment
    The product's page on Evans's website made it clear that it was purporting to be of therapeutic use

The "hybrid subtle energy revitalisation platform" came with a $14,990 price tag and claimed to "optimise and improve potential health, wellness and athletic performance" on Evans's website, but it appears to have been removed from the site.

The website claimed it replicates light, frequencies, harmonics, pulsed electromagnetic fields and voltage that are found in nature, for a variety of treatments.

It was brought to the attention of the TGA by a Facebook Live video that Evans posted on April 9, in which he said: "It's programmed with a thousand different recipes and there's a couple in there for the Wuhan coronavirus."


Dont worry Tom. Canada may amend their covid death count
https://www.cp24.com/news/covid-19-deaths-in-canada-may-be-two-times-higher-than-reported-study-1.5489622?cache=lbaijlxg
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OTTAWA -- A new study suggests Canada has vastly underestimated how many people have died from COVID-19 and says the number could be two times higher than reported.

Dr. Tara Moriarty, working group lead for the study commissioned by the Royal Society of Canada, said in an interview while most accounts have put the majority of deaths in long-term care, the new data analysis suggests the toll of COVID-19 was also heavily felt outside the homes in the community.

Many of those deaths likely occurred in lower income, racialized communities and affected essential workers, new immigrants and people living in multigenerational homes, as well as clinically frail seniors living at home, the study says.

"If we'd had some sense early on of who was dying where, if we had had a sense of just how many deaths were actually occurring ... maybe people would have started looking sooner or listening sooner to people in communities who were saying, 'It's really really bad here, people are dying,"' Moriarty said.

"It might have provided support for those claims that might have caused some kind of action that would have saved lives."

Moriarty said seeing Canada out of step with similar high-income countries on the proportion of long-term care deaths was a red flag that inspired the analysis by the society.

The new peer-reviewed analysis casts doubt on the widely accepted assumption that 80 per cent of Canada's deaths due to COVID-19 occurred among older adult residents of long-term care homes.

Instead, it says at least two-thirds of deaths caused by COVID-19 in communities outside of long-term care may have been missed. That would put the proportion of deaths in long-term care at around 45 per cent, much closer to the average of 40 per cent reported by peer countries in the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development.

The conclusion is based on a review of reports of excess deaths across Canada, the pattern of COVID-19 fatalities during the pandemic and cremation data showing a significant spike in deaths at homes versus hospitals in 2020. It also relies on antibody surveillance testing that collectively unmasked the likely broad scope of undetected COVID-19 infections.

The researchers adjusted the data to account for things like increased deaths due to the drug toxicity crisis and the expected drop in deaths linked to the pandemic because of things like reduced traffic accident rates.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 20, 2021, 03:21:06 PM »
'covid test' is actually wrong. When people who are vaccinated against covid test 'positive', they don't have covid. They test positive to the presence of SARS Cov-2 virus.They really should be called SARS Cov-2 tests

Covid is the disease that the SARS Cov-2 virus gives you

The vaccine works and does its job as expected. People come into contact with the virus (evidenced by the positive test result) and almost all of them do not go on to develop the disease.
A vaccine prevents infection.

Almost doesn't cut the mustard.

Not everyone who gets the vaccine can mount an effective immune response. Diseases, drugs to suppress the immune system because you may have a transplanted organ, pregnancy or being old that your body just doesn't work like it used to are reasons

Also how you behave before/after your vaccine shot can affect its efficacy. Alcohol and sleep deprevation for example can reduce its effectiveness

So in the billions of people getting the vaccine, you can bet there will be some that fall into these cohorts

Are you really this dense you wouldn't know? Wow

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 19, 2021, 09:39:40 PM »
'covid test' is actually wrong. When people who are vaccinated against covid test 'positive', they don't have covid. They test positive to the presence of SARS Cov-2 virus.They really should be called SARS Cov-2 tests

Covid is the disease that the SARS Cov-2 virus gives you

The vaccine works and does its job as expected. People come into contact with the virus (evidenced by the positive test result) and almost all of them do not go on to develop the disease.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 17, 2021, 02:11:41 PM »
Tom doesn't understand how anything works. Does he not even know what the acronym to AIDS is? Holy s&@t...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 17, 2021, 10:22:14 AM »
You're still missing the point: Would these kids, in your RI example, not have died if they didn't have Covid?

It would certainly need to be demonstrated explicitly that Covid contributed to their disease, as many cases of Covid are asymptomatic. If it's "fuzzy" or "unclear" and "maybe" is involved then it means you don't have the evidence to stroke fears to support your pandemic among the sickly and should probably just refrain from screaming fear to the media and focus on the research.

We have a pandemic where people are "maybe" dying of the disease.  ::)

Considerong the high level of comorbidities in the deaths it's obvious that you can't show that this disease is really that dangerous on its own and need to pull in other diseases to help you, in a manufactured argument of possible contributions to unrelated diseases. Is this how Polio and the Bubonic Plague worked?

How many people currently have co morbidities in America? Many millions. Heart disease, diabetes, cancer etc. People with these afflictions that get covid and die in short order? Covid could well be a contributing factor in their early death. If you have a bad heart but take care of yourself, you can live for years. But if some anti masking covid infected muppet coughs at you, that could be the death blow as it pushes you over the edge

Lets hope someone like that crosses your path. Karma needs to give you a swift kick up the arse

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:57:14 PM »
Loved the way you cherry picked that article to suit a narrative you like to tell. Read the whole page, it says things differently when put all together in the proper context

Also read this one
https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/BIRTHDEATHCERTIFICATES/VITALSTATISTICS/DEATH/Pages/reporting-covid-deaths.aspx

I know you won't though. Your brain forbids you from seeking information that conflicts with your anti vaxxer indoctrinated BS

Just plod along until you get covid. Then come here and tell us it's BS first hand

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:35:28 PM »
I know Tom loves to get his news from random social media memes or Cucker Tarlson but the claim that people who die in traffic accidents but tested positive for covid recently are being counted in the covid death toll is complete and utter BS

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/social-media-posts-make-baseless-claim-on-covid-19-death-toll/

If anything, the near 650K death toll is conservative.
Put the useless and lying fact checking sites in CN where that crap belongs.

Everyone here heard Dr. Birx.

There are rules for how death certificates and cause of death are issued. Your claim that a person who dies in a traffic accident or gunshot wound etc will have 'covid' as the cause of death simply because they returned a positive test earlier is demonstrably BS. Who gives a toss about Dr Birx? The rules are the same for the UK, Australia and every other developed country. If someone falls off their motorbike and gets decapitated no coroner will sign off saying he died because of covid lol

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/whetherthosewhohavediedfromacaraccidentwithcovid19willbecountedinonsstatistics?:uri=aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/whetherthosewhohavediedfromacaraccidentwithcovid19willbecountedinonsstatistics

An article from the UK specific to the question about traffic accidents and covid death reporting

You're account is just a troll and no one takes you seriously anyway. Thanks for the laugh when you act all serious with your memberating though.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:12:16 PM »
I know Tom loves to get his news from random social media memes or Cucker Tarlson but the claim that people who die in traffic accidents but tested positive for covid recently are being counted in the covid death toll is complete and utter BS

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/social-media-posts-make-baseless-claim-on-covid-19-death-toll/

If anything, the near 650K death toll is conservative.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 09:44:04 PM »
Survivors of Covid may have a many fold increase of cancer, heart attacks or stroke due to the amount of damage and internal scarring it leaves in its wake. Some people have lost their sense of smell or taste has changed perhaps permanently. Many will never have the same level of fitness again

Saying that the chances of surviving covid are good so no need to worry is stupid. I'm sure I'd likely survive covid if I got it but I sure as hell don't want it.

You talk about there is 'no long term data' on a vaccine. Well covid is a novel disease - there is no long term data about how it may affect people later. Keep in mind there isn't really a vaccine that has passed all the clinical trials and had some major fail after 6 weeks. Why would the covid vaccine be any different?

America will make a great case study. So much of the population got ravished with covid. It will be interesting to see if you guys have an unusual spike in cancers, heart disease, or any other weird disease to befall you.

As sure as Tom gets a cold, he will get covid. Given his age, it's likely we'll get the chance to laugh at his comeuppance.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 09:23:46 AM »
In the Covid deaths there are an average of four comorbidities, with only 5% of deaths indicated as Covid as the only cause according to the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

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For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.

Covid has a 99.7% survival rate:

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/doctor-sees-covid-19-survival-rate-through-people-and-loss-not-statistics/531-83b9969d-87b9-41f4-b3c8-c6fc2fad8c9f

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According to Johns Hopkins University, 98 percent of people survive COVID-19, and new data from Indiana researchers is more encouraging, calculating a 99.7 percent survival rate.

So 5% of the 0.3% of cases resulting in death were attributed to Covid and for the other 95% of that 0.3%, the patient had an average of four other serious ailments.

That's like saying you were one of the unlucky few who died of Covid and it's a coincidence you just happened to be obese, have cancer, high blood pressure, and then had a heart attack.



Imaging being so scared of a scam pandemic that you inject yourself with a rushed vaccine with no long term safety data.

Comorbidites include things like obesity, high blood pressure and diabetes which accounts for many millions of yanks

Then there are immuno compromised people and pregnant women. Clearly you don't give a shit about any of those groups given your previous posts devaluing if their lifes value

You forget the law of large numbers. Inside millions of infections will have many younger people included. Already here in Oz, not that many infected but quite a few in their 20's and 30's already 6ft under. And some were healthy with no comorbities. Totally preventable with a vaccine

Lets hope you get infected so you can see first hand and report back whether this really is a 'scam'

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 07:34:52 AM »
The crooks in the pharma industry and their vassal the fda need to be spanked in the public square (if not drawn and quartered)

We all hate big pharma. Just look at the vioxx scandal. That drug probably killed just as many as covid has. But that doesn't mean everything that comes out of it is BS

Vaccines save lives and just looking at the mechanism of how vaccines work, I can't see what long term F up they will do to a human. I bet taking aspirin, ibuprofen or paracetamol carries far more risk and people take those every day. People shoot up on narcotics and come out the other side. We turn our brains to mush getting pissed on alcohol. We consume (well you Americans) 150lb of sugar every year. We have zero issues with artificial colours, flavours, preservatives, sweeteners, transfers etc and where is the pay off in consuming any of that?

The pay off to a vaccine shot saves people's lives. Perhaps the person's very own. And so much resentment. So much aversion. So much BS conspiracy theories

FFS People need perspective ::)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 15, 2021, 10:39:43 AM »
I’m still not sure what the fuss is about. A vaccine that the FDA seems to have the same formulation as the EUA vaccine has been approved. Tom’s text wall just seems like he is trying to cope with the reality that vaccines aren’t killing people.

I wonder if Tom takes the threat of Covid seriously. It's already killed more Americans in less than 2 years then every war and conflict and terrorist act over the last 120 years.

Everyone is going to get covid eventually. Even I'm resigned to that fact. Maybe not this year or next, but as sure as I get a cold, I'll get covid.

Tom will too. Will he ensure he's protected as much as able? Or will we see him on sorry antivaxxer.com?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 15, 2021, 09:18:35 AM »
Hey Tom, did you get vaccinated? You look old. Hope you protected yourself

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 14, 2021, 11:19:22 PM »
If you're going to continue in your habit of posting lies, you need to leave.

LOL be careful of the standards you set, lackless. People might hold you to it some day

The muppet you refer to took the vaccine after getting infected with covid. Then blames his body 'never being the same' on the vaccine. (couldn't possibly be covid) ::)

His claim 'to be the inventor' of mRNA tech is also questionable.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 14, 2021, 10:18:31 PM »
If that's worth a watch, then this is worth a read

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/


Too long to quote but suffice to say, I'm getting my 2nd shot of Pfizer today 8)

See you on www.sorryantivaxxer.com where I'll be sure to LOL at you

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