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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 02:50:16 AM »

Tom, I don't think you understand what it takes to get a PhD.  It's not about passing tests.  My friend is on year 6 of his full time PhD work.  He has had to do new research in his field that makes a significant new contribution, teach undergraduate classes, write a full dissertation on his research, undergo questioning and verbal defense of his research findings by panels of other experts in the field.  The work has to be something that is publishable in the science community and contains findings that expand the knowledge of the science field.

The scientific community is very biased. Nothing about Zodiac signs is really publishable in the scientific community, for example, because of inherent bias, no matter how accurate the personality traits may be.

On top of that, there is not really any experimentation in Astronomy. It is an observing science. Astronomers aren't making experiments on dark matter in distant galaxies before writing papers about it. The entire field is almost completely without experimentation on the universe.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 02:30:31 AM »

So a PhD in astronomy doesn't give a person any credibility in the realms of the nature of our universe?

Well, yes, they are not credible because Shaq is saying that their education is not credible. Shaq is basically saying that those astronomers are educated by merely accepting authority and answering correctly on their tests that the earth is round. Shaq is very qualified to say that.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 02:21:24 AM »

So you believe Shaquille because he has a Ed.D (no published peer reviewed dissertation required) but dismiss scientists who have a PhD (published peer-reviewed dissertation required)?

It is literally night and day. An Ed.D. studies the educational system and is very knowledgeable about that. The same cannot be said about a PhD. A PhD in Chemistry is not qualified to speak on the nature of the educational system. He just does the classes and assignments and gets his certificate.

Shaq saying that we are being brainwashed by the educational authorities is a lot more credible than some chemist saying it.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 02:14:26 AM »

so you believe what he says just because he has a phd?

why is his opinion more credible to you because he has a phd?

He is credible because he spent a very significant amount of study in the field of education. His position that we are being brainwashed into believing that the earth is round is certainly a lot more credible than the opinions of the many people who are mocking him, who do not possess such an education.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 01:56:41 AM »

Who am I going to believe, a doctor of education; or you guys, who are not doctors of education?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 01:50:35 AM »

He doesn't have a PhD.

Educational doctorates are called Ed.D., which makes him an authority when he says that we are being brainwashed by powers into believing certain things without satisfactory evidence.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 01:15:49 AM »

So you now think the it takes 365 degrees to go around.   Shaquille was referencing a trip from Florida to California requiring to up and down at a specified angle.  His specified angle was 360 degrees.

It sounds pretty clear what he was saying to me. Shaq does a lot of traveling, not just that one trip. On his travels he observes himself going up and down on a flat earth, not a round one. When we go to China, we go horizontally, and it is ridiculous to believe that it is under us. All observations are that we live on a plane. The Round Earth belief system exists almost entirely on appeals to an authority. Shaq also touches on how the authority uses the educational system to brainwash us as children into believing the correct thing to believe in, with his Columbus example.

Dr. O'Neal tells us that we should open our minds and not blindly follow the herd. He basically says that there are powers which conspire to brainwash us into believing certain things, and we should be skeptical of unquestionable truths.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 12:32:40 AM »

He must have skipped English and geometry.  Any man who says " I do not go up and down at a 360-degree angle" has no idea what he talking about.  Sounds very astute doesn't he?

It sounds like he is the doctor of education and you are not.

I'm just trying to figure out how one can go up at a 360 degree angle no matter what the shape of the earth is.   Can you help me understand what he was saying?

Shaq travels the world and he does not observe himself going up and down 365 degrees around an earth. It is an empirical argument that the earth is first and foremost flat and all we have to say otherwise are based on government claims.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 20, 2017, 12:24:37 AM »

He must have skipped English and geometry.  Any man who says " I do not go up and down at a 360-degree angle" has no idea what he talking about.  Sounds very astute doesn't he?

It sounds like he is the doctor of education and you are not.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Shaquille O'Neil believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 19, 2017, 09:30:14 PM »

I'm almost certain that Shaq is not loved for his intelligence. That's like saying that Kim Kardashian supporting Flat Earth makes it more truthful.

Shaq has a Bachelors, Masters, and a Doctorate in Education from Barry University. What kind of education do you have?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: 2+2

« on: March 19, 2017, 08:34:23 PM »

The ancients actually spent lifetimes studying and considering the earth's shape from a fresh start, unlike Astronomers today who merely point to Aristotile's Three Proofs when arguing that the earth is round.

I think they point to the plethora of photographic, video and eyewitness evidence of the Earth being round; at least that is what I would do.

When Astronomers are not quoting NASA, they are quoting Aristotle. No research for their own selves. That is why the study of the earth by ancient civilizations should be considered. They did not have an easy authority to appeal to. They had to actually study the matter afresh if they wanted to know anything.

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Flat Earth Community / Shaquille O'Neal believes that the earth is flat

« on: March 19, 2017, 08:29:26 PM »

Start listening at 9:30: http://podbay.fm/show/1000068299/e/1488182460?autostart=1

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How orbits work.

« on: March 15, 2017, 03:18:04 AM »

MAybe because galaxy rotations are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from orbits? Hence why they are not called "Galaxy Orbits?" This is a big strawman.

Galaxy rotations don't involve orbits in RET? 

Tom, why did you use the word "apogee"?  I'm trying to understand your point.  Apogee is a term used do describe a location within an elliptical orbit.  Can you help me understand what you are trying to say?

A point on a spinning disk does not have an apogee, as it is a fixed distance from the center at all times, hence a "uniform apogee". My point is that the galaxies spin as if they were solid disks, not massive stars orbiting around each other.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How orbits work.

« on: March 14, 2017, 10:00:03 PM »

The "gravity" invented to explain the rotation of planets around the sun under RET cannot explain the rotation of galaxies, which rotate at a set uniform speed and apogee, much like a solid disk. Describing the movements of galaxies have been a challenge to astronomers.

See this article on softpedia.com:

"According to theory, a galaxy should rotate faster at the center than at the edges. This is similar to how an ice-skater rotates: when she extends her arms she moves more slowly, when she either extends her arms above her head or keeps them close to the body she starts to rotate more rapidly. Taking into consideration how gravitation connects the stars in the galaxy the predicted result is that average orbital speed of a star at a specified distance away from the center would decrease inversely with the square root of the radius of the orbit (the dashed line, A, in figure below). However observations show that the galaxy rotates as if it is a solid disk – as if stars are much more strongly connected to each other (the solid line, B, in the figure below)."

See this article on Wikipedia:

"In 1959, Louise Volders demonstrated that spiral galaxy M33 does not spin as expected according to Keplerian dynamics,[1] a result which was extended to many other spiral galaxies during the seventies.[2] Based on this model, matter (such as stars and gas) in the disk portion of a spiral should orbit the center of the galaxy similar to the way in which planets in the solar system orbit the sun, that is, according to Newtonian mechanics. Based on this, it would be expected that the average orbital speed of an object at a specified distance away from the majority of the mass distribution would decrease inversely with the square root of the radius of the orbit (the dashed line in Fig. 1). At the time of the discovery of the discrepancy, it was thought that most of the mass of the galaxy had to be in the galactic bulge, near the center.

Observations of the rotation curve of spirals, however, do not bear this out. Rather, the curves do not decrease in the expected inverse square root relationship but are "flat" -- outside of the central bulge the speed is nearly a constant function of radius (the solid line Fig. 1). The explanation that requires the least adjustment to the physical laws of the universe is that there is a substantial amount of matter far from the center of the galaxy that is not emitting light in the mass-to-light ratio of the central bulge."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: March 13, 2017, 11:47:02 AM »

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_WIRETAP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

According to this, we should know very soon if Trump is lying or not cause he has until Monday to present evidence.

If this gets shot down, I bet OnHere is gonna call it a conspiracy or "Trump didn't mean literal wiretaps" or "There's evidence everywhere they were just too lazy to read it"

What makes you think that Trump is lying about this matter?

As the Commander in Chief of the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the other US intelligence agencies, I would suspect that he may know a little more about the situation than you or CNN.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: 2+2

« on: March 13, 2017, 11:33:45 AM »

Why would you believe an ancient religious text when considering the shape of the earth?

The ancients actually spent lifetimes studying and considering the earth's shape from a fresh start, unlike Astronomers today who merely point to Aristotile's Three Proofs when arguing that the earth is round.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I'm looking for a volunteer, a true flat earth believer.

« on: March 10, 2017, 12:27:03 AM »

I will volunteer and be honest about what I see.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Problems with the Bishop Experiment

« on: March 02, 2017, 07:47:02 PM »

I've already answered that query. One area I looked at had a cement stairwell, but I've looked from other areas on that peninsula as well.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Problems with the Bishop Experiment

« on: February 22, 2017, 02:19:27 PM »

The point behind the picture I linked is that the beaches are easily seen on the opposite coast. It is a lighter colored line against the dark blue ocean. I never said that it was a picture of Santa Cruz. It is not carelessness or any mistake on my part. The sentence I wrote clearly says that it's an example of easily seen beaches on the opposite coast.

Here is my picture again:



Here is the picture of Santa Cruz posted earlier in this thread:



It might not pop out at you right away, but the pixels just above the water's surface in the Santa Cruz picture are lighter than the dark hills above it. If you look closely there is a light tan line in there, it is not dark on dark.

If you were looking at the whole scene in person starting from the closer coastline (the first image) and followed it into the distance to Santa Cruz (the second image), it would be easier to follow the light line of the beach.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Private Space Companies

« on: February 21, 2017, 09:45:07 AM »

There's a federal hiring freeze, dummy. And even if there wasn't, I doubt NASA advertises on jobsgalore.com, as auspicious as that site is. I do know that they hire plenty of engineers and scientists (yes, they have their own) through university student internships/co-ops.

Actually jobsgalore is an aggregation site which shows job postings from hundreds of job boards and classifieds sites. We can see the many contacting jobs available for Goddard alone. Goddard is hiring contractors as its programmers and engineers.

If only all those thousands of engineers, scientists, and their financial backers were as smart as you!

We don't have private space vacations or space hotels as of yet, despite constant promises since the 1960's. They don't seem to be smart enough.