[Tom Bishop]

It's possible that there is a conspiracy there, but it brings your first hand witness count from 1 to 0.

[Rama Set]

It took awhile for Lackey to realize Trump is a liar, but hey, we got there.

Although, it may be the case that Trump's announcement caused plans to indict him to change, or that Trump was simply mistaken.

Trump is a lifelong democrat.

Lifelong pals of the Clintons.

Dogs and ponies.

He was a democrat and isn't anymore.  Trump's affiliation is not idealogical though, he's a shill and it's easier to shill to the GOP base.

It's possible that there is a conspiracy there, but it brings your first hand witness count from 1 to 0.

The payments to Stormy Daniels are not in dispute.  They happened whether there was an affair or not.  The NY investigation (imagine having to specify which criminal investigation is being referred to lol) is in to whether or not the payment violated campaign finance law.

Of course, you know this and are trolling.

[Pete Svarrior]

Imagine unironically paying someone for the fact you didn't have sex with them.

[Rushy]

Imagine unironically paying someone for the fact you didn't have sex with them.

It could be that she was lying with the intent of making it into the news and then getting paid.

[Tom Bishop]

Trump said that Stormy Daniels was trying to extort him.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/991994433750142976

"The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair"

Not sure why a Porn Star is credible here.

[Roundy]

Trump said that Stormy Daniels was trying to extort him.

Of course he did. 

[honk]

Is there something about being a porn star that indicates a lack of credibility? It's a perfectly honest profession. I'd argue that Daniels is far more credible than a notorious liar than Trump.

But again, this is all of very limited relevance given that Trump is facing charges over his payment to Daniels, not his alleged affair with her.

[Pete Svarrior]

I'd argue that Daniels is far more credible than a notorious liar than Trump.

Who's more credible? Daniels, who repeatedly said she didn't sleep with Trump, or Daniels, who repeatedly said she did sleep with Trump?

After all, she is very credible. So credible, in fact, that maybe both statements are true. Yes, that has to be it.

[Rama Set]

I'd argue that Daniels is far more credible than a notorious liar than Trump.

Who's more credible? Daniels, who repeatedly said she didn't sleep with Trump, or Daniels, who repeatedly said she did sleep with Trump?

After all, she is very credible. So credible, in fact, that maybe both statements are true. Yes, that has to be it.

Regardless, it’s irrelevant to Trump’s legal woes. He did pay her money in a possibly illegal manner.

[Rushy]

With everything that Trump supposedly did that was illegal, it feels like going after him for a campaign finance issue is grasping for illegal straws.

[Rama Set]

There are several investigations he is under.

[stack]

[Pete Svarrior]

Regardless, it’s irrelevant to Trump’s legal woes. He did pay her money in a possibly illegal manner.

Sure. I'm just responding to honk's bizarre suggestion that Daniels is more credible than Trump on this matter. I suspect she only is because honk personally dislikes Trump.

[Lord Dave]

Regardless, it’s irrelevant to Trump’s legal woes. He did pay her money in a possibly illegal manner.

Sure. I'm just responding to honk's bizarre suggestion that Daniels is more credible than Trump on this matter. I suspect she only is because honk personally dislikes Trump.

Well that got me thinking.  Is she?

She lied about a single subject: the affair.  And we don't know which thing she said is the lie and which is the truth. But she has said the truth. 

Trump has lied.  Then he's doubled down on lies.  Then he made up a new chart to justify his lie. (One example). The man doesn't like saying the truth and often will simply double down on a lie, even if its easy to disprove, just to save face.


So on one hand we have SD who has lied and told the truth about one thing (that we know of) but we aren't sure which is true based only on her testemony.  We can infurr if we take Trump's payment into account.

On the other hand, we have Trump who will lie consistently and stick to it.  So by being a consistent liar, we can trust that he's likely lying when he presents information.


So I guess the question is: who is more trust worthy?  A liar who keeps lying, or a liar who also admits the truth without revealing which is which?

[Action80]

...he's a shill and it's easier to shill to the GOP base.

All democrats are shills, of course.

It's possible that there is a conspiracy there, but it brings your first hand witness count from 1 to 0.

The payments to Stormy Daniels are not in dispute.  They happened whether there was an affair or not.  The NY investigation (imagine having to specify which criminal investigation is being referred to lol) is in to whether or not the payment violated campaign finance law.

Of course, you know this and are trolling.

Democrats do not get indicted for paying off women to keep silent.

A' la Trump's good buddy, Clinton...

Of course, you know this and are trolling.

[Action80]

Has anyone bothered to check whether a county DA can prosecute a federal crime?

[AATW]

Trump said

lol.

You doubt the credibility of a porn star but you're hanging your hat on Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

Again, I don't really know or care whether they had an affair. But I raise an eyebrow at him paying her if they didn't. If it was to make the whole thing go away then that's not worked out very well for him.

[Lord Dave]

Has anyone bothered to check whether a county DA can prosecute a federal crime?

Unless there's more evidence we don't know about, that is exactly what the county DA is checking.  Its a lot of confusing nuances.  Hence why he hasn't been indited.

He may not be able to be indited in New York and this criminal case goes nowhere.  But Trump is playing it up like he's definitely going to be arrested.

[stack]

...he's a shill and it's easier to shill to the GOP base.

All democrats are shills, of course.

It's possible that there is a conspiracy there, but it brings your first hand witness count from 1 to 0.

The payments to Stormy Daniels are not in dispute.  They happened whether there was an affair or not.  The NY investigation (imagine having to specify which criminal investigation is being referred to lol) is in to whether or not the payment violated campaign finance law.

Of course, you know this and are trolling.

Democrats do not get indicted for paying off women to keep silent.

A' la Trump's good buddy, Clinton...

Of course, you know this and are trolling.

It's not that he paid hush money. He could have just written her a personal check or handed her a bag full of money from under his mattress and that would have been that. It's far more complicated in regard to where the money came from and how it was recorded/claimed, so to speak. Basically all the stuff Cohen got a three year sentence for; campaign finance illegalities, tax stuff, etc. Here's the short version...

Bragg’s case reportedly alleges that the Trump Organization falsely logged the payment to Daniels as legal expenses so it wouldn’t have to be disclosed as money benefiting Trump’s presidential campaign. One specific charge would likely be falsification of business records, a misdemeanor offense in New York. But, per the Times, Bragg’s team has considered arguing that these business records were falsified to cover up another crime — which could mean Trump would be charged with a felony.

I have no idea what this "cover up another crime" is. I think that's what the grand jury stuff was about.

[Lord Dave]

Legal Eagle has a good breakdown.