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Another thing that FE's do not seem to take into account is there are many frequencies of operation and many designs of operation of electronic equipment, each designed for its own special use.

False.

So enlightening and full of the specificity you demand of others.

Which part is false?  The part about the FE's?  There are many frequencies?  Many designs?  Designs for special/specific use?

That's a pretty broad statement to call 5 things false.

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Due respect but I'm having trouble parsing what it is you want to discuss.

Are you saying GPS is strictly ground based, i.e. no GPS satellites?

There are specific frequencies that various devices operate on.

Light (visible or not), television, radio, cell phones, GPS, microwave ovens, etc. all operate at some frequency along the RF spectrum.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Morons. Most*
« on: November 06, 2016, 07:54:59 AM »
I feel I must correct an earlier mistake in this thread.

After doing some digging I've found that Junker was correct, he truly isn't a pedant.  I have, I believe, found that which is a better fit in Sciolist and Delettante.

Thank you Junker for guiding me to the truth.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Has anyone ever flown a plane across Antarctica?
« on: November 06, 2016, 07:15:11 AM »
1.  Ok, if your math is really that perfect in proving a fixed distant sun (93M) and rotating/revolving globe earth, how come truth seekers are increasing exponentially in number? 

2.  Why can't you prove clearly once and for all that everything fed to people about globe earth is right?

3.  Have you not wondered why 'you're bombarded with questions and arguments that you can't really address and answer?

4.  Are you that perfect or imperfectly perfect? that even if you know there's a problem somewhere, you keep on saying you're right, afraid of being embarrassed...

5.  Give proofs and arguments that cannot be debunked or disproved, if you're really dead sure that the earth is globe or flat... and people will believe... but the problem is no one can do it, that's why we endlessly go and go around the circle catching each other's tail... hehehe..

1.  As requested above, please provide some kind of valid citation.

2.  Why can neither you or any other FES provide any proof at all that the world is flat?  All ideas proposed, which would prove a FE, are dismissed due to one impossibility or another.

3.  No.  Ignorant people ask questions because they don't know.  Stupid people ask questions for reasons known only to them.

4.  Are you not doing the same?  You vehemently state you are right and all others are wrong.  What makes your statement of rightness so righteous?

5.  Do the same for your side of the argument.  So far, looking at your posts, all you've been able to do is parrot other people (none of which offered any proof) and have provided nothing original or any where near proof of anything.


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Flat Earth Community / Re: Morons. Most*
« on: October 26, 2016, 04:47:55 AM »
For Junker:  Which of these definitions does not fit you?

Simple Definition of pedant
 
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:  a person who annoys other people by correcting small errors and giving too much attention to minor details



Full Definition of pedant

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1
 obsolete :   a male schoolteacher


2
 a :   one who makes a show of knowledge

b :   one who is unimaginative or who unduly emphasizes minutiae in the presentation or use of knowledge

c :   a formalist or precisionist in teaching



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Flat Earth Community / Re: Morons. Most*
« on: October 25, 2016, 09:37:30 AM »
So you didn't actually have a point, other than literally saying one of the same canned responses you post in every thread.

I suppose I arrived at my RE answers through the various physics and astronomy courses I've taken, as well as the labs. For FE, I tend to refer to the FAQ and wiki, although it is a bit dated and could use some work. I'm glad to see that you haven't taken any measurements of your own though, good to know that I'm not alone in that regard.

I'd also suggest you learn to make use of the edit button. You RErs seem to have great difficulty with that in this thread. It's fine though because at least you're convinced the earth is round.

You seem to like playing the role of the pedant.  May I suggest you take a better look at this site and learn that there isn't, actually, an edit button.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Morons. Most*
« on: October 25, 2016, 03:59:20 AM »
The only thing left now is for him to come in screaming that it's rigged and corrupt.

Once he does this, his transformation will be complete.

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So...

You're current argument is that since NYC is further east than Lima but the sun rises in Lima earlier than NYC Earth can't be round.

Please do enlighten us as to how this proves Earth is flat.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Morons. Most*
« on: October 24, 2016, 08:27:03 AM »
Come on, guys. A huge ice wall that is Antarctica? An entire world of scientists are keeping this a secret for no reason other than to save face? Trillions of dollars spent worldwide just to keep a secret? This has all the footnotes of every single conspiracy theory out there. From Chemtrails to lizard people in the Senate. We know how planets are formed. We know gravity exists. This "society" is backwards, moronic and smacks of religious zealousy.

It's not just scientists ! NASA is the biggest liar and worst enemy of the FES. In addition to all the navies and all the airlines and shipping companies are in on this Great Round Earth Conspiracy. In other words everyone except the FES......except the FES of course !....According to the FES. (   LOL

You're the only one making these nonsensical assertions. It happens time and time again in your posts. I question your honesty and intellectual integrity. You aren't interested in discussion, you just want to be your own echo chamber. Maybe try making an honest attempt once in a while. Or, at least stop regurgitating the same nonsense post after post. Yes, we get you think it's a parody, or that you think it should be the "what if the earth was flat" society, or that you were allegedly in the navy something something. Try saying something new once in a while.

And now it's your turn to fall back to ad hominem attacks while also chastising someone for endlessly repeating themselves and wanting to be their own echo chamber.  Isn't this site set up to be an echo chamber for people such as yourself, people who really believe the earth is flat?

Considering you posting frequency I'd say that you rather enjoy your little echo chamber.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Morons. Most*
« on: October 24, 2016, 08:20:29 AM »
Come on, guys. A huge ice wall that is Antarctica? An entire world of scientists are keeping this a secret for no reason other than to save face? Trillions of dollars spent worldwide just to keep a secret? This has all the footnotes of every single conspiracy theory out there. From Chemtrails to lizard people in the Senate. We know how planets are formed. We know gravity exists. This "society" is backwards, moronic and smacks of religious zealousy.
???

You literally provided no evidence for any of your claims made here.

Since you know gravity exists, maybe you can teach us plebs how it works? What is the mechanism that makes gravity do what you think it does?

Maybe you can teach us some flat earth evidence other than "If I look out my window it looks flat"  ???

Can you point out where I said that? I'm pretty sure I haven't made such claims in this thread. Rather, I've simply asked the person making claims to provide evidence for said claims. Given that no evidence has been provided, we can assume that OP is just parroting nonsense without applying any sort of critical thinking.

Cool.  The good old "you prove it" method of debate followed by the clever addition of limiting it to this thread.  You are representing your type quite well.  Even if one of us had the time or inclination to dig through your 4248 posts and find evidence that you've said such a thing you'd still throw a childish tantrum while screaming that you're speaking only in the context of this thread.

Please do try harder.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Morons. Most*
« on: October 24, 2016, 08:11:50 AM »
Come on, guys. A huge ice wall that is Antarctica? An entire world of scientists are keeping this a secret for no reason other than to save face? Trillions of dollars spent worldwide just to keep a secret? This has all the footnotes of every single conspiracy theory out there. From Chemtrails to lizard people in the Senate. We know how planets are formed. We know gravity exists. This "society" is backwards, moronic and smacks of religious zealousy.

You literally provided no evidence for any of your claims made here.

Since you know gravity exists, maybe you can teach us plebs how it works? What is the mechanism that makes gravity do what you think it does?

When has any FES ever, literally, provided any evidence for any of the claims they make here or other similar places on the internet?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: FE Questioning
« on: October 23, 2016, 05:44:35 AM »
From one RE to another, welcome to the nuthouse.

1.  There are a few RE people from the other half of the world who have addressed this before.  To the best of my knowledge all they heard in response was crickets.

2.  No such thing as gravity in FET.  What we experience as gravity they explain as being caused by the constant upward motion of the FE flying through space.

3.  Bendy light and/or what I've come to call dark light (explains earthbound shadows as well).

4.  Bendy light and/or aberrations caused by the lenses in telescopes and cameras.

5.  I've no idea.

I know this isn't exactly what you've asked for (not really detailed) but most FE people on this site will merely point you (maybe) to posts dealing with your questions or will only tell you to look at the all knowledgeable FE wiki.  Though I've only been coming to this site for a short time, what I've listed above is the shorthand version of the most common, long winded, rebuttals seen on this site.

If you truly want to jump into the rabbit hole with both feet may I suggest you look up posts by Tom Bishop and Intikam.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What Flat Earth has done for me.
« on: October 22, 2016, 04:22:10 AM »
"how difficult it is to change someone's mindset even with irrefutable evidence, "  What do you consider to be irrefutable evidence?  Do you ever consider that you might be wrong?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.  A statement/phrase which has been around, in some form, for a few hundred years and made popular in our time by Carl Sagan.

FES and FET make nothing but extraordinary claims backed up by lackluster evidence.  Unlike actual science, FES nor FET offers anything which honestly supports the claims being made and the vast majority of what is offered can't be tested and they won't test that which can be tested.

For all the failures, fits and starts, and accomplishments of science from the time when man first put his mind to the task, even more so from the advent of the scientific method, I will take science any day simply because I can see that science has, through time, made a stepwise progression from ignorance to increased knowledge while it is absolutely clear that those who support and/or promote FET have, at best, stalled at a certain point of knowledge and, at worst, regressed to a point of lesser knowledge.

You are entitled to your opinion.  But that is all it is and it lends no weight to your argument.   There is no shame in being wrong.  There is only shame doing wrong.  I do not know the shape of the Earth and I have never made any claims otherwise.  You are the one with the the point to prove, not me.  And I think you fall well short of eradicating any reasonable doubt.

Science has given evil people the means for wholesale destruction.  People really don't need science to be happy and healthy.  People suffer pain , terror and grief just as much as they ever have.  Lots of scientists and engineers are shysters.  I know because I used to work as an engineer!  In any case, a person isn't believable because they wear a lab coat and have a degree.  Neither do I believe everything I read in textbook.

I can tell you what is more convincing than science and reason: Watching something in you life work whether you understand why or not.

There is no doubt that science has given evil people the means for wholesale destruction.  What's your point?

Religion has given and continues to give evil people reason for wholesale destruction yet you support it.  Why support one and denigrate the other?

People suffer just as much as they always have?  Is this just a matter of numbers?  Since there are more people in the world now than there was 300 years ago it makes sense that, by the numbers, there are more people suffering today.  What's you point with this statement?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What Flat Earth has done for me.
« on: October 22, 2016, 04:15:58 AM »

Please do not take this as disrespect as I am glad that your life is coming together and long may it continue, I would like to take issue with your reasoning however (not for the first time).

Swapping internet porn for Andy Williams songs is something we all aspire to, but I think you do yourself a disservice, to make such life changes there must have been the will to change. It would seem to be that in this search for a new direction (coinciding as it did with the discovery of this lunatic internet backwater) you mistook effect for cause.


Take the credit for yourself (and the internal chemical shift engendered by not eating all that sugar and cutting out the dope), carry on questioning the status quo, it’s the spice of life (after Moon river), just don’t be so quick to attribute your success to outside influences (especially Tom Bishop FFS), that’s the religious gene calling.

Good luck with the band and the blood pressure.

Incidentally, since I came here the dog has dug up my lawn, I dislocated my knee, Jon Snow has died and been resurrected and the pound has sunk to record lows due to dumb asses, none of this is attributable to this random bunch of misfits, although I do have my suspicions about the lawn incident and the Masons.

Jura:  You can't hurt me.  No keyboard warrior can hurt me.  No one has ever said anything to me on the internet that made me feel more than minor annoyance for more than a few moments.  I come to sites like this every few weeks to entertain myself.

I think you miss the point of my Andy Williams anecdote.  I think you are smart, by the way.  I think all of you are smart.  But, smart doesn't equal right.  Also, in no way do education, knowledge, talent and aptitude add up to good character.


Yes, I have talents, strengths and aptitudes.  I also love dope and easy sex.  I certainly can be stupid and arrogant. 

5,6 yrs ago I repented and asked Christ to forgive me.  Christ says: " Ask and you will receive.  Seek and you will find. "  I am asking and I am seeking.  I am not finding the answers in materialism.  What I found is flat earth.  I believe in what I can see working before I believe in science and reason.  What works for me is rejecting modern science.  Seeing something work is much more compelling and convincing than any sophistry

You might not have so many problems is you humbled yourself before God.  Suit yourself.  I am not an evangelist.

I love women so much more than men.   I don't care if they like me back.  Be well.

First you claim FE changed your life and now you're saying that Christ changed your life.  Which is it?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What Flat Earth has done for me.
« on: October 19, 2016, 03:15:54 AM »
"how difficult it is to change someone's mindset even with irrefutable evidence, "  What do you consider to be irrefutable evidence?  Do you ever consider that you might be wrong?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.  A statement/phrase which has been around, in some form, for a few hundred years and made popular in our time by Carl Sagan.

FES and FET make nothing but extraordinary claims backed up by lackluster evidence.  Unlike actual science, FES nor FET offers anything which honestly supports the claims being made and the vast majority of what is offered can't be tested and they won't test that which can be tested.

For all the failures, fits and starts, and accomplishments of science from the time when man first put his mind to the task, even more so from the advent of the scientific method, I will take science any day simply because I can see that science has, through time, made a stepwise progression from ignorance to increased knowledge while it is absolutely clear that those who support and/or promote FET have, at best, stalled at a certain point of knowledge and, at worst, regressed to a point of lesser knowledge.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: 1 dollar cost of disproving round map !
« on: October 18, 2016, 01:10:27 PM »
Look Rounder,

We're explicitly named! Wonder what we have done to peeve the spoilt brat now. Possibly disrespecting.

I wonder why you got bold print and I didn't?  Gotta up my game.
I'm trying to get back on the list.  Maybe one of my latest posts will do it?

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Inti', Your arguments and scientific understanding get worse, this is just shabby.

I accept your insults about this issue as compliment and turning you my other face for you slaps.

Spank that ASS!

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What is the value 1,306 representative of?

Everything past your point of noting your formula of maximum value of distance is irrelevant simply because 1,306 is unknown to all but you.


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: 1 dollar cost of disproving round map !
« on: October 18, 2016, 05:21:37 AM »
All you have done is superimpose an image of a compass over an image of a map.  What, exactly, does this prove other than you are capable of using photo manipulation software?  Hasn't it been decreed by the FES that no photo will be used as proof of anything simply because all photos have been manipulated?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sun queries
« on: October 17, 2016, 12:46:51 PM »
I am pretty sure the FE'ers here have taken such a beating that they have submitted! The fight has been forced out of them as everything that they throw at us gets debunked! R I P to this forum!

I was thinking/wondering something similar until I stumbled over to the general forum and found that the esteemed Mr. Bishop has been keeping himself quite busy with his normal fare.

I think what they've actually done is to move to a portion of the site which is less visited by those of us who can or will offer a counter debate.

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