The Flat Earth Society
The Flat Earth Society => Suggestions & Concerns => Topic started by: Thork on December 01, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
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I don't see the point in FEG, FED and FE Q&A. To be honest I never have. In my head they were all the same thing anyway.
Might I suggest you have two sections?
Flat Earth Debate. - A place for serious flat earth debate
Flat Earth Fun. - A place for flat earth fun, ridicule, art or flights of fancy.
Easy to moderate and allows everyone a place to troll when the mood takes them, but the serious forum allows us to keep it real too. Also very obvious for a noob to know where to post.
As for the repository, we'd be better off putting that somewhere else on the site so the content google ranks.
Sorry, I know a lot of suggestions from me, but I've had so many ignored for so long. :(
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As I said in the thread in Announcements, I want people to feel at home here. We can revisit forum structure later once they've had a chance to settle in.
Making too many big changes early on is only going to drive regulars away.
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It's true. I already feel uneasy about the smileys and complete nonsense.
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the smileys
All fixed! You may need to clear your cache before they show on your end, but I've copied them over from .org
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Flat earth fun is a great idea actually. Lets have a bit more fun
round flat here. As long as we dont break the one and only rule.
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Should someone bring this post (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/index.php?topic=17760.0/) to this forum? Or leave it up to Tom?
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Should someone bring this post (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/index.php?topic=17760.0/) to this forum? Or leave it up to Tom?
Really, we need to bring Tom to the forum. He'll come, but not without any juicy noobs to eat.
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Can we consider my structure idea?
I think we only need two forums for FE.
A super serious one to discuss flat earth and bring credibility to the site, and a fun one where people can post dumb stuff and have fun about FET. Not CN. CN is for everything. FE Fun could be for zetetic maths and square earth theory and all the other stuff people love to post, without scolding them for posting here.
Additional.
Make the Flat Earth Debate forum a different text colour or something. Red font maybe. So its very obvious that is the main point of the site and has a marked step change in moderation and rules.
Condensing the 3 will stop moderators having to move everything which is confusing to someone who made their first post and it dissappeared, + it stops a discussion on gravity in Q&A and in FED and in General all happening at once.
It will also stop the main forums looking so empty until new users arrive. If the FE Debate forum gets so busy as to require splitting, do it due to demand. Not dogma.
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I think we only need two forums for FE.
A super serious one to discuss flat earth and bring credibility to the site, and a fun one where people can post dumb stuff and have fun about FET. Not CN. CN is for everything. FE Fun could be for zetetic maths and square earth theory and all the other stuff people love to post, without scolding them for posting here.
That's a terrible idea.
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I think we only need two forums for FE.
A super serious one to discuss flat earth and bring credibility to the site, and a fun one where people can post dumb stuff and have fun about FET. Not CN. CN is for everything. FE Fun could be for zetetic maths and square earth theory and all the other stuff people love to post, without scolding them for posting here.
That's a terrible idea.
Ok, why?
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Ok, why?
Having a "FE Fun" forum would detract from the serious forum. All discussion regarding FET should be serious, unless you want to make it a point to make every noob think we're just a site full of FE trolls. CN and angry ranting make a point of showing noobs we are for serious theory discussion. The square earth garbage should be nowhere near the serious forums.
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Ok, why?
Having a "FE Fun" forum would detract from the serious forum. All discussion regarding FET should be serious, unless you want to make it a point to make every noob think we're just a site full of FE trolls. CN and angry ranting make a point of showing noobs we are for serious theory discussion. The square earth garbage should be nowhere near the serious forums.
that's why I suggest having the serious forum in another colour.
So people know the difference. That we do serious debate here, but it might also be a better transition to get people involved in the community side of the site. (the best bit).
Why not try it? Its not like its inundated up there right now. Might also encourage jaded FErs to have a read up there for fun and maybe post in the serious forum too?
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I think thork makes a valid point about splitting the forums. I don't think different font colors would be necessary though. The difference should be apparent to anyone reading the descriptions, or even just the titles of the fora.
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I think thork makes a valid point about splitting the forums. I don't think different font colors would be necessary though. The difference should be apparent to anyone reading the descriptions, or even just the titles of the fora.
Just think it focusses the attention. But hey, we are all supposed to be adding suggestions. I'm just making mine.
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So people know the difference. That we do serious debate here, but it might also be a better transition to get people involved in the community side of the site. (the best bit).
We are here first and foremost to spread the wealth of knowledge that is FET.
Why not try it? Its not like its inundated up there right now. Might also encourage jaded FErs to have a read up there for fun and maybe post in the serious forum too?
Do you seriously believe someone like, say, ClockTower, would ever, EVER, post in a forum for fun? hah.
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So people know the difference. That we do serious debate here, but it might also be a better transition to get people involved in the community side of the site. (the best bit).
We are here first and foremost to spread the wealth of knowledge that is FET.
Why not try it? Its not like its inundated up there right now. Might also encourage jaded FErs to have a read up there for fun and maybe post in the serious forum too?
Do you seriously believe someone like, say, ClockTower, would ever, EVER, post in a forum for fun? hah.
I mostly think having 3 fairly identical forums for discussing earth's shape is silly. Especially at the start when there are so few threads being made in there.
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I mostly think having 3 fairly identical forums for discussing earth's shape is silly. Especially at the start when there are so few threads being made in there.
Let's just have one for the science side and one for the conspiracy side to reinforce that they are not the same thing. I'm fine with renovating the forums, just not putting a non-serious forum inside the serious forum section. Having a clear categorical difference between "upper" and "lower" forums is important.
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I mostly think having 3 fairly identical forums for discussing earth's shape is silly. Especially at the start when there are so few threads being made in there.
Let's just have one for the science side and one for the conspiracy side to reinforce that they are not the same thing. I'm fine with renovating the forums, just not putting a non-serious forum inside the serious forum section. Having a clear categorical difference between "upper" and "lower" forums is important.
This is why I said have a different colour text. Again, upper and lower areas is just dogma. Why not a flat earth area and community areas?
Also we shouldn't use the FE repository. All stuff should go into the wiki. Its easier to find stuff and will help the google rank as it grows.
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Why not a flat earth area and community areas?
It blurs the line between serious discussion and retarded antics too much.
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Why not a flat earth area and community areas?
It blurs the line between serious discussion and retarded antics too much.
Labelling them 'Flat Earth Debate' and 'Flat Earth Fun' would blur the lines?
Well I made my points. I just hate having the 3 and think there should be a home for all the nonsense FE stuff that isn't just general nonsense.
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If there is an FE Fun forum I'd love to see some FE artwork that people might come up with.
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FET is meant to be fun though. Without saying too much, dont we advocate FET for the fun of doing so anyway?
This was gonna be my suggestion, if you want more credibility then maybe the whole point in the FES should be restructured and make it more about keeping the FES tradition. If its credibility you want then maybe being more open about why you post is a good idea?
I hope what im saying kinda makes sense without being so blindingly obvious.
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I like FE Q&A. It implies, to a noob, that, "Here is a place where you can ask questions, and we nice FE'ers will try to answer them for you". Too many times, FE'ers post, "Read the FAQ", or "Read ENaG". We should keep this forum and try to actually provide answers to questions, as the name implies, even if they have been asked a thousand times.
Also, as I have stated before, I don't believe that the perma noobs should be allowed to turn questions into debates in this forum. It seems to work out that way often. I would suggest some sort of warning for the first offense, and maybe bans after that that keep the perma noob from posting in this particular forum. After all, noobs want to hear FE answers; they already learned the RE answers in school.
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Yeah dont be so soft on people. If you get a bunch of people just defending RET all the time then stop them posting there.
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Can we consider my structure idea?
I think we only need two forums for FE.
A super serious one to discuss flat earth and bring credibility to the site, and a fun one where people can post dumb stuff and have fun about FET. Not CN. CN is for everything. FE Fun could be for zetetic maths and square earth theory and all the other stuff people love to post, without scolding them for posting here.
Additional.
Make the Flat Earth Debate forum a different text colour or something. Red font maybe. So its very obvious that is the main point of the site and has a marked step change in moderation and rules.
Condensing the 3 will stop moderators having to move everything which is confusing to someone who made their first post and it dissappeared, + it stops a discussion on gravity in Q&A and in FED and in General all happening at once.
It will also stop the main forums looking so empty until new users arrive. If the FE Debate forum gets so busy as to require splitting, do it due to demand. Not dogma.
I think your structure idea is basically good, many of the old sections did seem to overlap. And the differences were subjective, split and moved for any reason. I of course, would like to see a conspiracy section.
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Can we consider my structure idea?
I think we only need two forums for FE.
A super serious one to discuss flat earth and bring credibility to the site, and a fun one where people can post dumb stuff and have fun about FET. Not CN. CN is for everything. FE Fun could be for zetetic maths and square earth theory and all the other stuff people love to post, without scolding them for posting here.
Additional.
Make the Flat Earth Debate forum a different text colour or something. Red font maybe. So its very obvious that is the main point of the site and has a marked step change in moderation and rules.
Condensing the 3 will stop moderators having to move everything which is confusing to someone who made their first post and it dissappeared, + it stops a discussion on gravity in Q&A and in FED and in General all happening at once.
It will also stop the main forums looking so empty until new users arrive. If the FE Debate forum gets so busy as to require splitting, do it due to demand. Not dogma.
I rather like this idea.
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Should someone bring this post (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/index.php?topic=17760.0/) to this forum? Or leave it up to Tom?
Really, we need to bring Tom to the forum. He'll come, but not without any juicy noobs to eat.
I'm a noob but I'm afraid I'm tough and stringy.
If tenderized properly however, I might make a palatable appetizer.
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I think Thork makes a point. We shouldn't have 3 similar forums that often become one and the same - I am sure we all remember Q&A threads often turning into debates. We should cut down on the amount of sections for 2 reasons:
1) Why have 3 sections that are similar and often leak into one another?
2) Makes the forum look busier.
I also really like the idea of a fun section. It doesn't have to be ridiculous like CN, but is simply more for discussing fun ideas such as random earth shapes, etc.