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Flat Earth Theory / The Math for universal Acceleration IS INCORRECT
« on: March 30, 2020, 12:38:35 PM »
STATEMENTS MADE by Flat Earth Theory Wiki
Gravity does not exist ... that Equivalancy can produce the same effect
That Universal acceleration of the earth does not mean the earth will accelerate past the speed of light
I have shown simply below that Universal acceleration using the equations that were use to prove that the earth would not accelerate past the speed of light would mean this acceleration MUST reach near 0 making it impossible for euqivalancy to be a possible explanation for gravitational effect after the speed of the earth reachs speeds near speed of light
I have NEVER MENTIONED FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR A REASON.
A ) YOU CANNOT DETERMINE THE MOTION OF THE FRAME OF REFERENCE FROM WITHIN THE FRAME OF REFERENCE
B) i DONT CARE WHAT THE FRAME OF REFERENCE IS .. i AM NOT THE ONE SAYING THE EARTH TRAVELS AT A CONSTANT ACCELERATION FOREVER..
c )i AM NOT STUPID .. MY TOTAL ARGUEMENT IS YOU cannot have a constant acceleration greater than 0 of the frame of the EARTH with NO SPEED CHANGE AND NO DIRECTION CHANGE .. THIS IS BASIC DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION..
UNFORTUNATELY ALL THE PEOPLE GO ON AND ON ABOUT FRAME OF REFERENCE sorry you dont know what that means and i am not going into detail about it .. with you as just the SIMPLE TOPIC THAT AN EQUATION GIVEN AS PROOF that the earth would not go above the speed of light cant be comprehended by closed minded people
some tenants of RELATIVITY for those who THINK they can tell me they have to teach me things
The maximum speed of anything with mass is the just under the speed of light ..this is a given
with this as a given it means that the object that was accelerating when it reaches near c MUST be slowing its acceleration to 0 WHEN IT reaches the maximum speed TheREALDAVE said there was nothing in relativity that said something cannot accelerate forever HAVING A MAX SPEED means you cannot exceed said speed and therefore your acceleration MUST drop to 0
for all those fixated on picking a FRAME OF REFERENCE TELL ME WHAT FRAME of reference allows the earth TO accelerate and have constant speed at the SAME TIME
simply put
as i stated before FET equation for acceleration is UA = g / L^3
where L = sqrt (1 - v^2/c^2) being the lorentz equation .. im sorry you cant understand .. that there is no need to reference frames
this equation cant be simplified to UA = g * (1 - v^2/c^2)^(3/2)
the FET stipulated on this website says that the max velocity of the earth is c and that if the earth is accelerating at 1 g for a limited time will eventually reach the speed of c
just before it reaches c say c - 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
the UA will be = g * (1 - (c - 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001)^2/c^2)^(3/2)
which you can see will be approx by g* (1 - c^2/c^2)^(3/2) with any normal accuracy
notice how UA = g* 0^(3/2)
notice HOW UA = 0 actually so close it wont even matter it will be like UA = 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000001
WHEN the speed reaches near to c
I appologize if you dont get math ..its not my job to teach everyone when something applies and when it doesnt..
there is NO FRAME OF REFERENCE VARIATION that you can come up with where there can be a MEASURED ACCELERATION OF NEAR g
or even 1/10 g .. when the velocity is NEAR C of any object period thank you for your endliess bs about FOR = frames of reference
they do not apply to this
ps SAYING frames of reference affects it and NOT GIVING A SINGLE EXAMPLE .. of course i am ignoring TheRealDaves .. bogus example where the earth can miraculously accelerate while it keeps a velocity of 0 as FICTION not fact
The purpose of this post is to show the lack of knowledge regarding acceleration and velocity
FET on this webpage asserts that an object can accelerate forever because the limit in speed is c the speed of light
this is INCORRECT .. because as it gets closer to the speed of light the acceleration SLOWS and thus eventually in the limit as I have shown in the equations below drops to 0 if UA drops to 0 when the speed of the earth is near C then universal accleration cant be a reason for the feeling of gravity
one thing follows another
unlike DAVE the Donkey I know about frames of reference ..i know that if an object is travelling at the maximum speed it can its acceleration is 0 and that any AND I DO MEAN ANY ...
AFFECTS of that acceleration like the feeling of being pulled down disappear
any OBJECT moving at a constant speed in space without some other force acting on it the person inside that object or on that object will experience 0 effects
It would be nice if the website runners actually fix the FALSE math regarding UA but that is wishful thinking as they have defenders LIKE DAVE THE DONKEY .. who has provided 0 ACTUAL work ... he just says my assertion is incorrect
damn but he wants me to show my WORK WHICH I DID AT LEAST THREE TIMES
DAVE SAYS without actually showing proof that the earth can accelerate in its own frame of reference
a BOX .. can move with respect to itself
thats is what MOTION IS
IF E is here
then later E is here
with respect to itself it has not MOVED SO ITS ACCELERATION IS 0
WASNT IT you DAVE the DONKEY who said with respect to what trying to discredit me with your astute statement
dv/dt = acceleration
your explanation that with relativity you are limited to a speed of c is very simple minded
if the velocity at one moment is c and the velocity a second later is c
dv/dt = (c - c)/1 = 0/1 = 0
this means that when the object gets close to c it starts to not ACCELERATE SO FAST
and eventually STOPS accelerating..
this can be shown by your equation
dv/dt = g/L^3
where L is lorentz factor
the reciprical of the lorentz factor gets closer and closer to 0
since 1/L gets close to 0
1/L^3 must get really close to 0
Gravity does not exist ... that Equivalancy can produce the same effect
That Universal acceleration of the earth does not mean the earth will accelerate past the speed of light
I have shown simply below that Universal acceleration using the equations that were use to prove that the earth would not accelerate past the speed of light would mean this acceleration MUST reach near 0 making it impossible for euqivalancy to be a possible explanation for gravitational effect after the speed of the earth reachs speeds near speed of light
I have NEVER MENTIONED FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR A REASON.
A ) YOU CANNOT DETERMINE THE MOTION OF THE FRAME OF REFERENCE FROM WITHIN THE FRAME OF REFERENCE
B) i DONT CARE WHAT THE FRAME OF REFERENCE IS .. i AM NOT THE ONE SAYING THE EARTH TRAVELS AT A CONSTANT ACCELERATION FOREVER..
c )i AM NOT STUPID .. MY TOTAL ARGUEMENT IS YOU cannot have a constant acceleration greater than 0 of the frame of the EARTH with NO SPEED CHANGE AND NO DIRECTION CHANGE .. THIS IS BASIC DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION..
UNFORTUNATELY ALL THE PEOPLE GO ON AND ON ABOUT FRAME OF REFERENCE sorry you dont know what that means and i am not going into detail about it .. with you as just the SIMPLE TOPIC THAT AN EQUATION GIVEN AS PROOF that the earth would not go above the speed of light cant be comprehended by closed minded people
some tenants of RELATIVITY for those who THINK they can tell me they have to teach me things
The maximum speed of anything with mass is the just under the speed of light ..this is a given
with this as a given it means that the object that was accelerating when it reaches near c MUST be slowing its acceleration to 0 WHEN IT reaches the maximum speed TheREALDAVE said there was nothing in relativity that said something cannot accelerate forever HAVING A MAX SPEED means you cannot exceed said speed and therefore your acceleration MUST drop to 0
for all those fixated on picking a FRAME OF REFERENCE TELL ME WHAT FRAME of reference allows the earth TO accelerate and have constant speed at the SAME TIME
simply put
as i stated before FET equation for acceleration is UA = g / L^3
where L = sqrt (1 - v^2/c^2) being the lorentz equation .. im sorry you cant understand .. that there is no need to reference frames
this equation cant be simplified to UA = g * (1 - v^2/c^2)^(3/2)
the FET stipulated on this website says that the max velocity of the earth is c and that if the earth is accelerating at 1 g for a limited time will eventually reach the speed of c
just before it reaches c say c - 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
the UA will be = g * (1 - (c - 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001)^2/c^2)^(3/2)
which you can see will be approx by g* (1 - c^2/c^2)^(3/2) with any normal accuracy
notice how UA = g* 0^(3/2)
notice HOW UA = 0 actually so close it wont even matter it will be like UA = 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000001
WHEN the speed reaches near to c
I appologize if you dont get math ..its not my job to teach everyone when something applies and when it doesnt..
there is NO FRAME OF REFERENCE VARIATION that you can come up with where there can be a MEASURED ACCELERATION OF NEAR g
or even 1/10 g .. when the velocity is NEAR C of any object period thank you for your endliess bs about FOR = frames of reference
they do not apply to this
ps SAYING frames of reference affects it and NOT GIVING A SINGLE EXAMPLE .. of course i am ignoring TheRealDaves .. bogus example where the earth can miraculously accelerate while it keeps a velocity of 0 as FICTION not fact
The purpose of this post is to show the lack of knowledge regarding acceleration and velocity
FET on this webpage asserts that an object can accelerate forever because the limit in speed is c the speed of light
this is INCORRECT .. because as it gets closer to the speed of light the acceleration SLOWS and thus eventually in the limit as I have shown in the equations below drops to 0 if UA drops to 0 when the speed of the earth is near C then universal accleration cant be a reason for the feeling of gravity
one thing follows another
unlike DAVE the Donkey I know about frames of reference ..i know that if an object is travelling at the maximum speed it can its acceleration is 0 and that any AND I DO MEAN ANY ...
AFFECTS of that acceleration like the feeling of being pulled down disappear
any OBJECT moving at a constant speed in space without some other force acting on it the person inside that object or on that object will experience 0 effects
It would be nice if the website runners actually fix the FALSE math regarding UA but that is wishful thinking as they have defenders LIKE DAVE THE DONKEY .. who has provided 0 ACTUAL work ... he just says my assertion is incorrect
damn but he wants me to show my WORK WHICH I DID AT LEAST THREE TIMES
DAVE SAYS without actually showing proof that the earth can accelerate in its own frame of reference
a BOX .. can move with respect to itself
thats is what MOTION IS
IF E is here
then later E is here
with respect to itself it has not MOVED SO ITS ACCELERATION IS 0
WASNT IT you DAVE the DONKEY who said with respect to what trying to discredit me with your astute statement
dv/dt = acceleration
your explanation that with relativity you are limited to a speed of c is very simple minded
if the velocity at one moment is c and the velocity a second later is c
dv/dt = (c - c)/1 = 0/1 = 0
this means that when the object gets close to c it starts to not ACCELERATE SO FAST
and eventually STOPS accelerating..
this can be shown by your equation
dv/dt = g/L^3
where L is lorentz factor
the reciprical of the lorentz factor gets closer and closer to 0
since 1/L gets close to 0
1/L^3 must get really close to 0