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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: April 11, 2023, 06:34:54 AM »

Please provide some evidence that one can go over the judge's head or sue somebody
Looks like you're just making things up.

Courts have Human Resource departments like many other organizations. Ie. Maryland Courts Human Resources

Hillary Clinton was selected because the child rapist was demanding a woman attorney. Hillary Clinton could have escalated the matter to HR and filed an ethics complaint, or she could have complained that she was being singled out to do something undesirable based on her gender. Gender is a protected class. This could be construed as sexual discrimination.

If that didn't work judges can also be sued for administrative decisions. They are not immune from that.

She also could have died her hair, got colored contacts, stolen a dead person's SSN and created a new identity, flown to Ibiza (no extradition) and live out her days as an ex-pat on the lam from the Arkansas judiciary.

How far do you want to go with all of your speculative extrapolations?

None of that makes it moral to represent someone who you believe to be a child rapist. None of that forces her to represent a child rapist. She willingly represented a child rapist who she believed was guilty.

How do you know that she "believed" he was guilty before she accepted the appointment? The polygraph thing took place after she accepted the appointment...

Clinton laughed after she said: “Of course he [the defendant] claimed he didn’t [rape]. All this stuff. He took a lie-detector test. I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs.”

If you want to play your speculative extrapolation game, maybe the reason she asked the judge to not appoint her was because she was just uncomfortable with child rape cases in general regardless of guilt of innocence of the defendant. Maybe she just wasn't into handling rape cases. Maybe she didn't "believe" the defendant was guilty until after she begrudgingly accepted the appointment and got a look at all the evidence.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 11, 2023, 06:06:19 AM »

So based on that, it sounds like the store and site is like cafepress: the Trump campaign submits designs like logos and such, and the platform puts it on tshirts, mugs, yard signs, etc... For them while also handling all financial transactions, printing, and inventory management.

Interesting, nice work figuring this out. So it seems like, going back to Lackey's original question, "I wonder what makes the author of the article believe the website is the official store of Donald Trump?" that it is in fact the 'official' store, or at a minimum, the graphics and such that go on the merch is 'officially' from the Trump campaign. The cafepress model afterall.

It isn't the official store of Donald Trump.

I don't know what to tell you.

You could write it isn't the official store of Donald Trump.

Because Donald Trump doesn't have an official store.

He may have official merchandise.

But having merchandise doesn't constitute having a store.

Fair enough. The Trump campaign's non-official store is the only store that sells official Trump campaign merchandise and only official Trump campaign merchandise. I'm glad we got that all cleared up. Totally makes sense.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: April 11, 2023, 05:59:34 AM »

Tom said nothing of the sort.

There is nothing in the law that says a defendant must have the defense do the best job they can.

The defendant is entitled to counsel bound by criminal procedure in the jurisdiction.

That is it.

It's not a law, but a rule set forth by the American Bar Association (ABA).

Rule 1.3 Diligence - Comment
Client-Lawyer Relationship
[1] A lawyer should pursue a matter on behalf of a client despite opposition, obstruction or personal inconvenience to the lawyer, and take whatever lawful and ethical measures are required to vindicate a client's cause or endeavor. A lawyer must also act with commitment and dedication to the interests of the client and with zeal in advocacy upon the client's behalf.

Ever hear of these ABA penalties for violating their rules; disbarment, suspension, sanction, and public or private censure?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 11, 2023, 05:42:27 AM »

So based on that, it sounds like the store and site is like cafepress: the Trump campaign submits designs like logos and such, and the platform puts it on tshirts, mugs, yard signs, etc... For them while also handling all financial transactions, printing, and inventory management.

Interesting, nice work figuring this out. So it seems like, going back to Lackey's original question, "I wonder what makes the author of the article believe the website is the official store of Donald Trump?" that it is in fact the 'official' store, or at a minimum, the graphics and such that go on the merch is 'officially' from the Trump campaign. The cafepress model afterall.

It isn't the official store of Donald Trump.

I don't know what to tell you. This is Trump's official campaign site, www.DonaldJTrump.com...




If I click on the "Shop" button over on the right, I end up on the Winred site...
site.

Looks pretty official to me. You know, with it saying so in the banner in quite a large font and the fact that I got here from the official, certified Trump campaign site at www.DonaldJTrump.com. Seems pretty clear to me.

Not to mention what dave found out, that Winred simply gets the graphics and content provided by the Trump campaign and then prints up the merch and ships it out. From the original article:
He has promised fans a ‘free’ T-shirt if they donate $47 to his re-election campaign.
It’s reported that the 76-year-old’s campaign chiefs wanted to use a proper mugshot but couldn’t in the end as one was not taken.

Here's what the official Trump campaign came up with instead:



And then Winred prints it on some merch and sends it out.

So I guess I don't know what your definition of "Official" is.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: April 11, 2023, 02:35:57 AM »

If Clinton was appointed she could have tried taking it above the judge's head. She also could have quit if she felt that she was being asked to do something which compromised her morals. She could have also sued. From what you posted it doesn't sound like she didn't do much to remedy the situation at all.

Please provide some evidence that one can go over the judge's head or sue somebody
Looks like you're just making things up.

During the Nuremberg trials being told to do something immoral wasn't an acceptable excuse for the Nazis to avoid justice. And unlike the Nazi situation, there wasn't a potential SS Officer holding a gun to Clinton's head to force her to do immoral things. She willingly did this, and she is fully culpable here.

As a defense attorney you are demanded to defend your client to the best of your ability. What do you think public defenders do all day when appointed to a case? Are all public defenders who believe their client is guilty immoral for defending them?

This all in the constitution:

Sixth Amendment
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

And as the prosecutor said in the case, "Once Clinton was assigned, Gibson said, she had a legal obligation to represent Taylor to the fullest, and she did."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 11, 2023, 12:31:45 AM »

So based on that, it sounds like the store and site is like cafepress: the Trump campaign submits designs like logos and such, and the platform puts it on tshirts, mugs, yard signs, etc... For them while also handling all financial transactions, printing, and inventory management.

Interesting, nice work figuring this out. So it seems like, going back to Lackey's original question, "I wonder what makes the author of the article believe the website is the official store of Donald Trump?" that it is in fact the 'official' store, or at a minimum, the graphics and such that go on the merch is 'officially' from the Trump campaign. The cafepress model afterall.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Visibility of the ISS

« on: April 10, 2023, 11:56:36 PM »

Observing the ISS is very easy as long as you are in the right place. There are numerous websites that will tell you when and where exactly to look for the ISS. If you are in a location on earth where observing the ISS is impossible, you can simply look for smaller satellites. Though this is harder to do, it is still very possible.

I still have no idea why this is so difficult.

Things in the sky come and go from view.

It has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

I think the question is how do these ISS trackers know exactly when it will be viewable by you in your location, when it will come into view and when it will leave your view? And you're saying that it's clouds that determine this. So how do these trackers know when there will be clouds obscuring your view?

And just as a side note, the trackers are predicated on the ISS' 90 minute orbit around a globe earth, so it is somewhat relevant to the shape of the world.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: April 10, 2023, 07:13:07 AM »

The details of that are generally true. Snopes goes on of a leftist rambling rampage to nitpick about the terminology used. "Volunteered" vs. "appointed and accepted",

Wouldn't that make the meme nitpicking as well? Because, you know, "volunteering" is really the same thing as "appointed", right?

I don't think that's nitpicking at all. The assertion is that she willfully "volunteered" for the case which has a connotation that she gleefully raised her hand to defend a 42 year old rapist of a 12 year old girl.


Flip the script. What if the statement read:
     
To me this reads as because the defendant demanded a female lawyer as opposed the male he was originally assigned, the judge selected her from a list of female lawyers who defend low income defendants, much like how Public Defenders are assigned cases. So what? Happens all the time. A totally different connotation.           

And specifically as to the "appointed" and especially the "accepted", this from the WaPo article:

(The defendant) asked the judge to replace his court-appointed male attorney with a female one. The judge went through the list of a half-dozen women practicing law in the county and picked Clinton. She has said she was not thrilled with the assignment but felt she had little choice but to take the court appointment — which the prosecutor in the case confirmed to CNN.

From CNN:

Mahlon Gibson (prosecuting attorney in the case) told CNN on Wednesday the then 27-year-old Hillary Rodham (now Clinton) was "appointed" by the judge in the case, even though she voiced reservations...

Gibson said that it is “ridiculous” for people to question how Clinton became Taylor’s representation.

“She got appointed to represent this guy,” he told CNN when asked about the controversy.
According to Gibson, Maupin Cummings, the judge in the case, kept a list of attorneys who would represent poor clients. Clinton was on that list and helped run a legal aid clinic at the time.

Taylor was assigned a public defender in the case but Gibson said he quickly “started screaming for a woman attorney” to represent him.

Gibson said Clinton called him shortly after the judge assigned her to the case and said, “I don't want to represent this guy. I just can't stand this. I don't want to get involved. Can you get me off?”

“I told her, ‘Well contact the judge and see what he says about it,’ but I also said don't jump on him and make him mad,” Gibson said. “She contacted the judge and the judge didn't remove her and she stayed on the case.”

Clinton "knew" he was guilty vs. Clinton "believed" he was guilty. Clinton laughed about it vs. she was laughing about something tangential that doesn't make her look bad.

If anything, seems like you're nitpicking the nitpicking. I'm pretty sure defense attorneys/public defenders often times know and believe their client is guilty. More from CNN: "Once Clinton was assigned, Gibson said, she had a legal obligation to represent Taylor to the fullest, and she did."

Clearly, this is more of an editorial site than a "fact check" site. Snopes internet editors interpreting for us what she is laughing about is not a "fact". It's an example of why Snopes is a bad source.

And clearly the blogger you cited interpreting for us what she is laughing about is not a "fact". It's an example of why the blog 'Ethics Alarms' is a bad source.

Snopes' "interpretation" seems to be correct based upon the reporter, Roy Reed, who was actually there interviewing her, "As far as her laughing, God knows she was not laughing over the notion that this rapist was going to go free," said Reed. “I challenge any fair-minded reader of that transcript to make a case that Hillary Rodham was a coldblooded lawyer who was laughing over the plight of the 12-year-old rape victim."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: April 10, 2023, 12:54:32 AM »

Lots of interesting twists and turns in the Shelton case. All is not what it seems to appear. Sheltons recollections are a little all over the place - Part of the reason why the defendant got the plea deal to begin with. Documented in this WaPo article from 2016:

The facts about Hillary Clinton and the Kathy Shelton rape case

One bit here regarding the actual "laughing" audio tapes in question recorded for the unpublished interview with Arkansas reporter Roy Reed. Take note of Reed's assessment in the Update:

Shelton’s ire had risen with the 2014 discovery of previously unpublished audio recordings of Clinton discussing the case in the mid-1980s with Arkansas reporter Roy Reed for an article that was never published.

In the recorded interview, Clinton is heard laughing or giggling four times when discussing the case with unusual candor; the reporter is also heard laughing, and sometimes Clinton is responding to him.

[Update: Reed in an interview published Oct. 12 denied that Clinton was laughing at Shelton. “As far as her laughing, God knows she was not laughing over the notion that this rapist was going to go free," said Reed. “I challenge any fair-minded reader of that transcript to make a case that Hillary Rodham was a coldblooded lawyer who was laughing over the plight of the 12-year-old rape victim."]

I'm going to go with the guy, the reporter/interviewer, who was actually there and his assessment rather than some rando guy's blog opinion with a site called "Ethics Alarms", tagline, An ethics commentary blog on current events and issues.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Globebusters' Bob Knodel Passed Away

« on: April 09, 2023, 07:06:13 PM »

I've tuned into Globebusters many times. Never really making it through their marathon hour+ casts, but yeah, totally agree with your assessment. He seemed like the adult in the room a lot of the time and leaned hard into alt-science rather than some of the more supernatural/spiritual stuff. I really appreciated that about him. I think he brought respectability to the movement in the sea of some of the YT FE content from others less learned and usually offered a more reasoned temperament than some of the guests, even more so than his longtime co-host, Jeran.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Globebusters' Bob Knodel Passed Away

« on: April 09, 2023, 03:28:55 PM »

Engineer to boot. Very sad.

I could be wrong, but I think I remember that he was a licensed private pilot too. On the young side, just like that other FE guy who was big in the movement who suddenly died last year. I can't remember his name. Found it, Rob Skiba. He was big in the movement too.

I saw some comment on the Globebusters YT memorial vid that a person was super stoked to meet him at the last Flatoberfest, but s/he said that he wasn't feeling well and wasn't greeting folks. So maybe he was suffering with something for a while. 

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Flat Earth Community / Globebusters' Bob Knodel Passed Away

« on: April 09, 2023, 10:18:40 AM »

One of the pillars of the YouTube FE community died...

Bob Knodel Death And Obituary
Bob Knodel, the co-host of the popular conspiracy theory YouTube channel Globebusters, has died. News of his death spread quickly on social media and websites, leaving fans and loved ones heartbroken and searching for answers.
While the cause of his death remains unknown, many are mourning the loss of a beloved family member and colleague.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 07, 2023, 01:50:12 AM »

I did say "at least online" as the offline I'm not too sure on.  But given that Trump is a front runner, it would seem odd that the GOP would take a hands off approach.  They know they need Trump and his 30% base (or whatever it is now) even if they know he's toxic.  So its in their best interest to try and manage things themselves rather than have Trump do what he wants, which is not gonna help them win.  A scroll through his twitter clone posts tells you how he'd campaign/advertise if he ran it himself.

I don't believe that to be true, online or otherwise. Winred is a platform for republicans to collect donations and sell merch. If you go to https://nikkihaley.com/ and click on a donation button, you're redirected to her winred page, just like The Donald. I don't believe that the GOP (RNC) manages all of the republican candidates pages on redwin. Maybe they do, but that seems bizarre to me, letting randos at the RNC come up with whatever content without some sort of actual campaign oversight, let alone the logistics and effort to do that for all repub candidates on the platform.

As well, this from in 2019 when winred (I keep mistakenly typing 'redwin' for some reason) came online:

The premise of WinRed is simple: The site is a conduit for donations, allowing individuals to contribute to a number of conservative candidates or causes. Individual donors may give to their favorite candidate, split contributions among several candidates or set up recurring donations for a period of time. Once a user makes a donation, the site suggests other candidates or causes the donor might want to consider.

The platform is a joint venture of the Trump Campaign, the Republican National Committee and the Senate and House GOP party committees. It was immediately praised by conservative outside groups, including the Congressional Leadership Fund.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/republicans-winred-seeks-small-donors/

Why not?  Someone has to manage the sites and if you build your platform like the million of other "make your own site" pages where you just use a template and put in your own pics, the amount of work that needs doing is minimal.  Pick a template, throw in some pictures. Go with it.

I mean, someone has to manage it and it makes sense to outsource that instead of having a dedicated webmaster who designs the site and runs it by Trump or his committee for approval. 

And looking at three so far, (nickey, trump and Ron deSantis) they definitely have a "This is a template" to me.

As for some rando managing it:
Remember, this is a national party.  They need a unified message.  And none of these guys write their own speeches.
And reading Trump's page, nothing.  And I mean nothing was written by him.  I'd be shocked if he even approved it.

However, HIS site is "Paid for by Donald J Trump for President 2024, Inc." so... *shrug*

I've never said that The Donald writes the content or photoshops the images on t-shirts himself. He has campaign group of people just like he has speechwriters and those people are not the RNC, they are his campaign minions. As part of his campaign group, they pay for consultants to aid his effort just like any other candidate does. For instance, this from WaPo:

Trump’s 2016 campaign was run on a shoestring. His reelection machine is huge — and armed with consultants.
Since 2017, nearly $92 million has flowed to dozens of firms providing political consulting services to Trump’s 2020 reelection machine.

At this point in the last election, Trump’s campaign employed 19 consultants. Now, there are more than 200. When Trump had all but locked up the nomination by May 2016, he had spent $63 million. Thus far, pro-Trump committees have spent $531 million.

Trump’s overflowing coffers have allowed him to spend lavishly early in the race. For instance, the committees recently launched $10 million ad offense targeting Democrats, including former vice president Joe Biden.

The spending has also created a financial boon for a political-consulting class he once shunned.

Since 2017, nearly $92 million has flowed to dozens of firms providing political consulting services to Trump’s 2020 reelection machine, according to an analysis of campaign spending by The Washington Post.



*(In case you're wondering what "committees" are, this from the FEC, news to me as well:
Candidates and their authorized committees
An individual running for a seat in the Senate or the House of Representatives or for President of the United States becomes a candidate when he or she raises or spends more than $5,000 in contributions or expenditures.
Presidential, House and Senate candidates must designate a campaign committee. This "authorized committee" takes in contributions and make expenditures on behalf of the campaign.)

The Trump campaign, not the RNC, pays consultants to strategize, track, and implement everything involved in a run for office. Winred is just a platform with no specific affiliation to a candidate as they simply provide templates and tools for a candidate/campaign to create a promotional site, collect donations and, sell merch, basically an all in one squarespace, cafepress, & shopify. The campaign, not the RNC, uploads their content, desired contribution amounts, merch design and winred fulfills.

Just like if I created t-shirts via cafepress for the heavy metal band, 'Aloha Oyster Cult' I'm the ukulele player for and on my band website it says, "Click here to by our official Aloha Oyster Cult concert T's, socks, & sweatbands", clicking the link the user ends up over on my band's cafepress store site, cafepress has "no affiliation" with my band. They just provide a shop to buy my bands merch, manufacture it and ship it out. That's basically what winred is.

I don't know where this RNC runs a republican candidates online campaign comes from. The candidate's campaign runs their campaign.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 06, 2023, 06:33:24 PM »

I did say "at least online" as the offline I'm not too sure on.  But given that Trump is a front runner, it would seem odd that the GOP would take a hands off approach.  They know they need Trump and his 30% base (or whatever it is now) even if they know he's toxic.  So its in their best interest to try and manage things themselves rather than have Trump do what he wants, which is not gonna help them win.  A scroll through his twitter clone posts tells you how he'd campaign/advertise if he ran it himself.

I don't believe that to be true, online or otherwise. Winred is a platform for republicans to collect donations and sell merch. If you go to https://nikkihaley.com/ and click on a donation button, you're redirected to her winred page, just like The Donald. I don't believe that the GOP (RNC) manages all of the republican candidates pages on redwin. Maybe they do, but that seems bizarre to me, letting randos at the RNC come up with whatever content without some sort of actual campaign oversight, let alone the logistics and effort to do that for all repub candidates on the platform.

As well, this from in 2019 when winred (I keep mistakenly typing 'redwin' for some reason) came online:

The premise of WinRed is simple: The site is a conduit for donations, allowing individuals to contribute to a number of conservative candidates or causes. Individual donors may give to their favorite candidate, split contributions among several candidates or set up recurring donations for a period of time. Once a user makes a donation, the site suggests other candidates or causes the donor might want to consider.

The platform is a joint venture of the Trump Campaign, the Republican National Committee and the Senate and House GOP party committees. It was immediately praised by conservative outside groups, including the Congressional Leadership Fund.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/republicans-winred-seeks-small-donors/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 06, 2023, 05:29:19 PM »

Ok Stack, sorry but Pete is right.  The Trump campaign is run by the GOP, not Trump.  At least online. 
They have full control.  They're like a movie studio who runs the official <insert actor here> fan site.

I don't believe that the GOP runs the Trump campaign, per se. And I don't know how you have determined that the GOP has full control. These key people run the campaign:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign

And the URL at the bottom seems to be the main, 'official' online campaign contribution portal. Which resolves to the GOP candidates contribution collecting platform created for any and all Republican runners to use, winred.com.

WinRed is an American Republican Party (GOP) fundraising platform endorsed by the Republican National Committee. It was launched to compete with the Democratic Party's success in online grassroots fundraising with their platform ActBlue.

The GOP, the Trump re-election campaign, and other state-wide and local-level races across the United States used the platform as of late 2019, with nearly 800 campaigns using the platform by May 2020.[5] WinRed discloses donor information to the Federal Election Commission.[6]

WinRed merged Revv, a GOP payment processing firm founded in December 2014 by Gerrit Lansing, and DataTrust, the party's voter data repository. The platform allows one-click donations.[7][8]
In 2019, the RNC and the Trump administration applied heavy pressure to incentivize all Republican campaigns to use the platform.[2] In April 2020, the platform expanded from its previous representation of only federal-level candidates and opened support to state- and local-level races.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinRed

As far as I can tell, the only place online to contribute is through the www.donaldjtrump.com (winred). And the only places I can find where you can get "official" Trump MAGA wear and trinkets are the store linked off of www.trump.com and the winred store hanging off of the Trump 24 campaign contribution site.

Trump.com store:


Winred Trump campaign store:


Now did Steven Cheung, Trump's campaign director, sign-off on the T-shirts sold via the redwin platform, or did he leave it to the GOP come up with whatever they wanted? I haven't a clue. Did the GOP write all of the copy on the official donaldjtrump (redwin) contribution site without any input from Trump's campaign itself? Haven't a clue about that either. But my understanding is that if you're a repub candidate, your urged to use the redwin platform and what you do is sign-up, create your campaign page with the copy, graphics and contribution features you want and even opt-in for their merch store platform capabilities just like setting up a shopify store. I'm of a mind not to believe that the GOP creates all the content for every republican candidate that uses the redwin platform.

Perhaps there's a clue somewhere in this interview with the redwin founder, Gerrit Lansing:

Merchandise hasn’t been a huge fundraising channel for most campaigns, although that’s certainly shifting. Last year, more 12,000 products were created by state, local, and federal campaigns using WinRed’s commerce platform, according to the company. 

C&E: What’s working for campaigns who are pushing merch?

Lansing: It’s really about actioning the zeitgeist of the moment, if you will, in merchandise format, which can be as simple as a tweet on a mug. Everyone’s first instinct is to throw the campaign’s logo up there. Sorry, but no one wants to buy [merch] with the campaign’s logo, except your top 500 fans. In which case, sell it for $99.

My prediction this cycle: there’s going to be a state or local campaign, or a small House campaign who just comes out with the merch of the moment, with the message of the moment and totally blows up nationally and they get hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars for like a tiny campaign because they happen to nail that moment.
https://campaignsandelections.com/creative/selling-merch-is-getting-easier-how-much-should-campaigns-invest/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 06, 2023, 02:13:19 PM »

You may value correctness and accuracy, but that doesn't automatically mean you are correct & accurate. And in this instance, you are neither.

Once again - you confidently stating this does not replace the requirement for evidence. I showed you why you're wrong and substantiated my argument. You replied with a loud cry of "NUH UH". If you have no response, please consider not responding.

It's difficult to determine exactly how to respond when you go off-piste with the insults. You'd think this was AR.

- You happen to be a simpleton
- I don't blame you for being stupid
- Get a grip, you actual toddler

I have a response that meets your "requirement for evidence", but it will most likely be met with more insults and how your GuEsSiNg that "Presumably this would be a breach of campaign financing laws" (I didn't know you were an expert on such matters) is somehow superior to my GuEsSiNg regarding the distancing language on the shopping site.

So it's kind of pointless to fully engage with you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 06, 2023, 11:32:58 AM »

Because I value correctness and accuracy.

You may value correctness and accuracy, but that doesn't automatically mean you are correct & accurate. And in this instance, you are neither. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 06, 2023, 12:58:24 AM »

and click on the Click here to visit the Official Trump Store to claim your MAGA gear! at the bottom of the page, it takes you here:

Perhaps unsurprisingly, if you bother to read it, this webpage states the following:

Paid for by WinRed. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee. WinRed.com

Do you have a reason to suspect that WinRed are lying about this site? Presumably this would be a breach of campaign financing laws, so if you have any evidence, you should not withhold it.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, if you bother to follow along, the link to the store is on Trump's official campaign site labeled as the 'Official Trump Store' so someone from Trump's campaign has ok'd linking to it and actually calling it that. Does that not make sense to you? And where did I say it breached campaign financing laws? I think you're thinking of someone else. Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension and retention.

I'm guessing that the 'not authorized' language is for a specific purpose as to how and where the money from merch sales gets allocated. The bottom line is that Trump's official and authorized site promotes and links to the site, calling it the 'Official' store, referenced in the article. Why that's not clear to you is the real mystery.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Appearance of the sun

« on: April 06, 2023, 12:43:30 AM »

I don't think the Moon is below the altitude of some clouds. I suspect that this is an effect of the Moon's projection on the atmolayer. The clouds are of a nature to which the projection effect can pass through the clouds and project on, or in front, of them like the light otherwise projects upon the atmolayer in the FE description. This causes the Moon to appear to be in front of the clouds. It doesn't seem to affect all clouds, however. Very dark clouds will still obscure the Moon.

When looking up at the Moon on a cloudy night one is prone to wonder why the clouds see to be parting around the Moon to allow the details of its face to be fully visible. One might imagine that these are special clouds which the light of the Moon can pass through, but it is odd that the light is so cleanly absorbed. If we are imagining special effects in which light is absorbed and re-transmitted on its way to the eye then the possibility of a projection is opened up as well.

Do you have a diagram or some visual of this Moon projection? I still don't get how it works. What's causing the projection? Angle of projection? The source element that is being projected and where it is located when the projected image is somewhere else? etc.

As well, what are 'special' clouds? And is there any literature that discusses special clouds? Seems like we're talking about a lot of illusion much like the 'illusion' you call out in Astronomy. You've got the illusion of a projected image of a something that is not really physically there and the illusions caused by a special as yet unidentified type of clouds.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 05, 2023, 06:08:55 PM »

https://metro.co.uk/2023/04/05/donald-trump-is-already-selling-not-guilty-mugshot-t-shirts-for-29-18559122

Grifters gotta grift.

I wonder what makes the author of the article believe the website is the official store of Donald Trump?

Because when you go to Trump's official "Trump 24" campaign contribution site (www.DonaldJTrump.com) and click on the Click here to visit the Official Trump Store to claim your MAGA gear! at the bottom of the page, it takes you here: