Anyone know?  Why would the National Aeronautics and Space Administration be even remotely interested portraying their views about the mayans?  This tells me something else must be going on.

Here is an interesting website and there are 100's of others with mentions of NASA and the mayans. 

https://theculturetrip.com/north-america/mexico/articles/the-story-behind-the-disappearance-of-the-mayans/

With my tin foil hat on I believe the Mayans have been involved with the secrets of Antarctica. 

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Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 03:33:31 PM »
A blog mentioning NASA does not make it accurate. Have you found any direct information from NASA?

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 05:49:19 PM »
A blog mentioning NASA does not make it accurate. Have you found any direct information from NASA?

Here:  https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/06oct_maya

Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 07:26:45 PM »
"Deep in the Guatemalan jungle, Sever and Griffin study a crumbled "stele," a stone pyramid used by the Maya to record information or display ornately carved art. Sever and Griffin found the stele and other ruins hidden for more than 1,000 years during an expedition that relied on NASA remote-sensing technologies to pinpoint sites of ancient settlements. (NASA/T. Sever)"

So, NASA has satellites that observe earth, and can find things of interest to archaeologists. NASA also has interest in climate change, so questions like "What caused the climate to change and wipe out the Maya" seems relevant.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2017, 02:18:10 PM »
"Deep in the Guatemalan jungle, Sever and Griffin study a crumbled "stele," a stone pyramid used by the Maya to record information or display ornately carved art. Sever and Griffin found the stele and other ruins hidden for more than 1,000 years during an expedition that relied on NASA remote-sensing technologies to pinpoint sites of ancient settlements. (NASA/T. Sever)"

So, NASA has satellites that observe earth, and can find things of interest to archaeologists. NASA also has interest in climate change, so questions like "What caused the climate to change and wipe out the Maya" seems relevant.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

No, just no.  There is no climate change other than natural climate cycles of the earth.  Just because NASA says so does not mean it's true.  Just because there are claims of scientists doing XYZ does not mean there is proof.  This type of thinking is non critical and believing everything you are hand fed to believe.  Try to look at things more objectively. 

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Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2017, 02:21:28 PM »
"Deep in the Guatemalan jungle, Sever and Griffin study a crumbled "stele," a stone pyramid used by the Maya to record information or display ornately carved art. Sever and Griffin found the stele and other ruins hidden for more than 1,000 years during an expedition that relied on NASA remote-sensing technologies to pinpoint sites of ancient settlements. (NASA/T. Sever)"

So, NASA has satellites that observe earth, and can find things of interest to archaeologists. NASA also has interest in climate change, so questions like "What caused the climate to change and wipe out the Maya" seems relevant.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

No, just no.  There is no climate change other than natural climate cycles of the earth.  Just because NASA says so does not mean it's true.  Just because there are claims of scientists doing XYZ does not mean there is proof.  This type of thinking is non critical and believing everything you are hand fed to believe.  Try to look at things more objectively.

We know some gases trap heat in the atmosphere. Humans are dumping massive amounts of these gases into the atmosphere. I think that is causing climate change.
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Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2017, 02:56:38 PM »
"Deep in the Guatemalan jungle, Sever and Griffin study a crumbled "stele," a stone pyramid used by the Maya to record information or display ornately carved art. Sever and Griffin found the stele and other ruins hidden for more than 1,000 years during an expedition that relied on NASA remote-sensing technologies to pinpoint sites of ancient settlements. (NASA/T. Sever)"

So, NASA has satellites that observe earth, and can find things of interest to archaeologists. NASA also has interest in climate change, so questions like "What caused the climate to change and wipe out the Maya" seems relevant.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

No, just no.  There is no climate change other than natural climate cycles of the earth.  Just because NASA says so does not mean it's true.  Just because there are claims of scientists doing XYZ does not mean there is proof.  This type of thinking is non critical and believing everything you are hand fed to believe.  Try to look at things more objectively.

We know some gases trap heat in the atmosphere. Humans are dumping massive amounts of these gases into the atmosphere. I think that is causing climate change.

Good thought but NASA claims the Mayans were wiped out because the burning of trees lead to a rise in temperature creating droughts.  They were not polluting / creating emissions anywhere near the levels we are today considering their population peaked around 2 million people.  Think of this quote on the ball earth model "Loss of all the trees caused a 3-5 degree rise in temperature and a 20-30 percent decrease in rainfall." How ludicrous is this statement considering they occupied a small territory along the southern border of Mexico.  Explain how this local modification of landscaping in a rather small area can impact the climate that much on a ball earth?

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Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 03:10:50 PM »
"Deep in the Guatemalan jungle, Sever and Griffin study a crumbled "stele," a stone pyramid used by the Maya to record information or display ornately carved art. Sever and Griffin found the stele and other ruins hidden for more than 1,000 years during an expedition that relied on NASA remote-sensing technologies to pinpoint sites of ancient settlements. (NASA/T. Sever)"

So, NASA has satellites that observe earth, and can find things of interest to archaeologists. NASA also has interest in climate change, so questions like "What caused the climate to change and wipe out the Maya" seems relevant.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

No, just no.  There is no climate change other than natural climate cycles of the earth.  Just because NASA says so does not mean it's true.  Just because there are claims of scientists doing XYZ does not mean there is proof.  This type of thinking is non critical and believing everything you are hand fed to believe.  Try to look at things more objectively.

We know some gases trap heat in the atmosphere. Humans are dumping massive amounts of these gases into the atmosphere. I think that is causing climate change.
Good thought but NASA claims the Mayans were wiped out because the burning of trees lead to a rise in temperature creating droughts.  They were not polluting / creating emissions anywhere near the levels we are today considering their population peaked around 2 million people.  Think of this quote on the ball earth model "Loss of all the trees caused a 3-5 degree rise in temperature and a 20-30 percent decrease in rainfall." How ludicrous is this statement considering they occupied a small territory along the southern border of Mexico.  Explain how this local modification of landscaping in a rather small area can impact the climate that much on a ball earth?

This is an inaccurate statement. NASA said there was a major drought that struck while that civilization was in decline. There is no claim that the drought was caused by anything the Mayans did. The claim is that the deforestation worsened the situation. They ran a simulation that removed all the trees in the area. The changes would have been local, not global.
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Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 03:20:19 PM »
"Deep in the Guatemalan jungle, Sever and Griffin study a crumbled "stele," a stone pyramid used by the Maya to record information or display ornately carved art. Sever and Griffin found the stele and other ruins hidden for more than 1,000 years during an expedition that relied on NASA remote-sensing technologies to pinpoint sites of ancient settlements. (NASA/T. Sever)"

So, NASA has satellites that observe earth, and can find things of interest to archaeologists. NASA also has interest in climate change, so questions like "What caused the climate to change and wipe out the Maya" seems relevant.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

No, just no.  There is no climate change other than natural climate cycles of the earth.  Just because NASA says so does not mean it's true.  Just because there are claims of scientists doing XYZ does not mean there is proof.  This type of thinking is non critical and believing everything you are hand fed to believe.  Try to look at things more objectively.

We know some gases trap heat in the atmosphere. Humans are dumping massive amounts of these gases into the atmosphere. I think that is causing climate change.
Good thought but NASA claims the Mayans were wiped out because the burning of trees lead to a rise in temperature creating droughts.  They were not polluting / creating emissions anywhere near the levels we are today considering their population peaked around 2 million people.  Think of this quote on the ball earth model "Loss of all the trees caused a 3-5 degree rise in temperature and a 20-30 percent decrease in rainfall." How ludicrous is this statement considering they occupied a small territory along the southern border of Mexico.  Explain how this local modification of landscaping in a rather small area can impact the climate that much on a ball earth?

This is an inaccurate statement. NASA said there was a major drought that struck while that civilization was in decline. There is no claim that the drought was caused by anything the Mayans did. The claim is that the deforestation worsened the situation. They ran a simulation that removed all the trees in the area. The changes would have been local, not global.

Explain how a local change can cause a 3-5 degree temperature rise.  If the earth is truly revolving - the air in the atmosphere would balance this effect out.  Besides look at what we are doing to the world today and explain how the the global temperature rise is nowhere near 3-5 degrees in considering all of the industrialization that has occurred in the past 100 years. 

That previous quote was taken from the NASA page I linked earlier.
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Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2017, 03:30:06 PM »
Are you aware of the size of the Mayan civilization? Local is a relative term. Their society covered Belize, Guatemala, and part of Mexico. It is a very large area. Cities create local changes in temp (heat islands) and the area in question is MUCH smaller. By your comments, it is pretty clear this isn't something you've spent time researching or thinking about. Some might even view your comments as ignoring/changing important details. (i.e. saying they caused the drought when that is not what the article said at all)
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2017, 03:38:50 PM »
Are you aware of the size of the Mayan civilization? Local is a relative term. Their society covered Belize, Guatemala, and part of Mexico. It is a very large area. Cities create local changes in temp (heat islands) and the area in question is MUCH smaller. By your comments, it is pretty clear this isn't something you've spent time researching or thinking about. Some might even view your comments as ignoring/changing important details. (i.e. saying they caused the drought when that is not what the article said at all)

It is evident you don't know much about heat island effect which is primarily caused by heat being absorbed / stored in things such as asphalt pavement, buildings (roofs non reflective), etc.  Mayans did not have asphalt paved roads or black heat absorbing roofs.  Again, New york city has a population of close to 9 million people.  The Mayans peaked at 2 million based on what we are told.  Population density was far less for them. 

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2017, 04:04:17 PM »


You keep intimating that where you are a free thinker, those that believe differently to you are “hand fed” and non-critical. Then you say (about climate change), “Just because NASA says so does not mean it's true.” Well if it was just them you may have a point, but when the AAAS, ACS, AGU,AMS, GSA, OECD, IPCC, UKRS, and UKMET amongst many, many others all agree that manmade climate change is a thing and is getting scary, whereas the number of national or international scientific bodies that reject anthropogenic global warming are non, nil, zip, nada and zero, and furthermore the Institutions that do reject it are usually found to be backed or funded by lobbyists of those parts of industry who’s interests/profits are compromised by reductions in polluting the atmosphere.

It is laughable to hear a “free thinker” spurred on by random YouTube diatribes backing those gutsy and fearless billionaire economists/oil/coal/automotive barons against the 97% of scientists asked, I mean we’ve all seen those scientists with their yachts and Jet planes heading off to their private islands, haven't we? 
Just to be clear, you are all terrific, but everything you say is exactly what a moron would say.

Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2017, 04:10:02 PM »


You keep intimating that where you are a free thinker, those that believe differently to you are “hand fed” and non-critical. Then you say (about climate change), “Just because NASA says so does not mean it's true.” Well if it was just them you may have a point, but when the AAAS, ACS, AGU,AMS, GSA, OECD, IPCC, UKRS, and UKMET amongst many, many others all agree that manmade climate change is a thing and is getting scary, whereas the number of national or international scientific bodies that reject anthropogenic global warming are non, nil, zip, nada and zero, and furthermore the Institutions that do reject it are usually found to be backed or funded by lobbyists of those parts of industry who’s interests/profits are compromised by reductions in polluting the atmosphere.

It is laughable to hear a “free thinker” spurred on by random YouTube diatribes backing those gutsy and fearless billionaire economists/oil/coal/automotive barons against the 97% of scientists asked, I mean we’ve all seen those scientists with their yachts and Jet planes heading off to their private islands, haven't we?

Your post also gave me a good chuckle, lol.  Cheers!   :-B

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Re: Mayan civilization - why does NASA have theories of what happened to them?
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2017, 05:01:06 PM »
Are you aware of the size of the Mayan civilization? Local is a relative term. Their society covered Belize, Guatemala, and part of Mexico. It is a very large area. Cities create local changes in temp (heat islands) and the area in question is MUCH smaller. By your comments, it is pretty clear this isn't something you've spent time researching or thinking about. Some might even view your comments as ignoring/changing important details. (i.e. saying they caused the drought when that is not what the article said at all)

It is evident you don't know much about heat island effect which is primarily caused by heat being absorbed / stored in things such as asphalt pavement, buildings (roofs non reflective), etc.  Mayans did not have asphalt paved roads or black heat absorbing roofs.  Again, New york city has a population of close to 9 million people.  The Mayans peaked at 2 million based on what we are told.  Population density was far less for them.

Yes, I understand the reasons behind heat islands. The point was small areas of human activity can impact local temps and that wind patterns don't dissipate the effect. Removing all the trees in a large area is going to change the local environment.
I saw a video where a pilot was flying above the sun.
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