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« on: December 23, 2018, 04:49:49 PM »
https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

Don't let your memes be dreams. The Trump wall is going to be built by a man with one arm and no legs, whether you like it or not.

The Great Wall of Trump cannot be stopped. Do not even try.

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Re: Build Wall
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2018, 05:37:47 PM »
But Mexico is going to pay for it. Why is a go fund me needed?

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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2018, 05:40:14 PM »
But Mexico is going to pay for it. Why is a go fund me needed?

The phrase "pay for it" didn't necessarily mean financially. Mexico could, for example, pay for it in blood.

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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2018, 05:18:15 AM »
But Mexico is going to pay for it. Why is a go fund me needed?
At last, honest, hard-working Mexicans have a way of contributing towards the wall.
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Re: Build Wall
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2018, 09:52:51 AM »
But Mexico is going to pay for it. Why is a go fund me needed?

The phrase "pay for it" didn't necessarily mean financially. Mexico could, for example, pay for it in blood.


I wish Trump had said that instead of meaning financially.


Also, $16 million so far?  A faaar cry from $1 billion but who cares?  That guy is now rich and can escape the country.



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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2018, 03:08:55 PM »
I grew up in Texas and traveled West Texas a lot. I've been from the Gulf of Mexico 'round the Big Bend all the way up to ol' El Paso, etc. many times.

Anybody who thinks they're going to build a forty foot concrete wall through the middle of the Chisos Mountains is an idiot. It's not going to happen for 200 billion, it's not going to happen for half a trillion. Seriously, just not going to happen.

Mexico is not going to pay for it. You can't force a country pay for anything they don't want to. Even collecting on a judgement from an international court would take force upon a country that chooses not to pay. Tariffs against exports to Mexico would take centuries to recover even a small portion of a wall cost and would result in tariffs against our imports to Mexico. We can't make Mexico pay for a wall any more than Canada could make America pay for a wall to protect them from our mass shootings.

In Texas, the Rio Grande River is the border. He won't be able to build his wall on the soil of the Mexico side of the river. He can't build it in the river. Is he going to build a forty foot concrete wall between the people of the U.S. and the waters of the Rio Grande? Is he going to give Mexico the Rio Grande?

Walls don't work. They used to work thousands of years ago but now walls don't work. Motion detectors work, drone patrols work, electronic frontiers work. A border wall is not border security. A border wall would be another bankrupt ruin erected as a monument to Trump's ego like the carcass of the Taj Mahal casino.

There will be no wall. The crowds of radicalized, chanting rednecks are being film-flammed just like the suckers who lost tens of thousands of dollars in the Trump U scam.

We need to spend a few hundred billion on our nation's cyber security but the U.S. Secretary of Cybersecurity is an idiot who can't even keep his twitter account secure.


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Re: Build Wall
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2018, 03:39:26 PM »
Anybody who thinks they're going to build a forty foot concrete wall through the middle of the Chisos Mountains is an idiot.
I don't think anyone is proposing a 40ft concrete wall at this stage. Multiple designs have been thrown around (the most recent being a steel slat barrier), and while some of them advocate for going the pure-concrete route in critical points, I haven't seen anyone proposing that America literally drags concrete through the entire border.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2018, 04:06:58 PM »
As reality has descended on Trump he has started backed away from the thirty foot wall he promised in the campaign (which defiantly became a forty foot wall when Mexico said they wouldn't pay.) It was also supposed to go six feet underground to prevent tunnels. He was pretty specific, "On the fence -- it's not a fence. It's a wall."

Of course, he later wanted the wall to be see-through so people wouldn't be killed by giant bags of drugs being flung over the wall by catapult. That idea was so outlandish, I didn't believe he actually said it and chalked it up to the usual media bias. But, it's on tape in front of the whole press corp. Parts of the wall need to see through so people don't get hit by bags of drugs. "Because if you get hit with a sixty pound bag of drugs, you're done." Yep, he said that. +facepalm+

After that, I was haunted by the image of an old cowboy riding his horse across the desert when a big bag of drugs comes whistling out of the clear, blue sky and obliterates him.

Trump sold the idea of a cartoon wall to a public that believes the crap they see in late night TV infomercials while the rest of the Republican party cringed. Now they're trying to find something practical angle to spin it. His followers were never chanting, "Build the fence!"




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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2018, 04:27:47 PM »
The wall will be solid concrete, 100 meters high, and have automated gun turrets every 50 meters to 'deter' unwanted guests. Additionally, it will have SAM sites to prevent flyovers.

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Re: Build Wall
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2018, 04:30:44 PM »
Isn't that American politics in a nutshell, though? If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, etc. America is a megacorp - the sales pitch will never match the actual product. Surely you guys have adjusted for that by now?

In short. I don't disagree with you. I just think what you're saying is so trivial that it doesn't really merit wasting keystrokes on.
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Re: Build Wall
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2018, 11:34:07 AM »
Walls don't work. They used to work thousands of years ago but now walls don't work.
Yeah, those gated communities in the US suck at keeping people out...

Yeah, Israel is experiencing much higher levels of people coming in uninvited since their wall was built.
There will be no wall.
Yes there will.

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Re: Build Wall
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2018, 01:45:51 PM »
Walls don't work. They used to work thousands of years ago but now walls don't work.
Yeah, those gated communities in the US suck at keeping people out...

Yeah, Israel is experiencing much higher levels of people coming in uninvited since their wall was built.
There will be no wall.
Yes there will.


There already is a wall.  Several of them.  The rest are areas of deadly desert.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2019, 06:34:13 PM »
They're almost 2% of the way there. Trump won't even be in office by the time it gets funded.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2019, 06:44:06 PM »
Trump said "We are going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it". So why is the government shut down until he gets $5bn to build a wall?  ???
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2019, 06:48:43 PM »
Trump said "We are going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it". So why is the government shut down until he gets $5bn to build a wall?  ???

I imagine it has something to do with being unable to force a nation to make monetary contributions to another without some form of coercion.

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2019, 06:54:02 PM »
I'm all for democracy and if people voted "We're going to build a wall and US taxpayers are all going to pay for it", then you should have a wall. But without assurances from Mexico that they will pay for it, I don't think Trump should get his money. No one went to the polls on that promise. It wasn't on anyone's manifesto.
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2019, 06:59:10 PM »
I'm all for democracy and if people voted "We're going to build a wall and US taxpayers are all going to pay for it", then you should have a wall. But without assurances from Mexico that they will pay for it, I don't think Trump should get his money. No one went to the polls on that promise. It wasn't on anyone's manifesto.


It is now.
Hell, one guy would let his golf course be destroyed for the wall to be built.
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »
Hell, one guy would let his golf course be destroyed for the wall to be built.
There is no greater sacrifice than giving up the course for your prick sport to build a monument to useless ways to try and keep brown people away from you.
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2019, 04:38:55 PM »
useless ways to try and keep brown people away from you.
Couldn't America just get a 10 mile restraining order against brown people?
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2019, 04:52:19 PM »
Typical libtard approach viewing this as a racial issue.