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Re: Trump
« Reply #7441 on: December 05, 2020, 05:26:44 PM »
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/a-judge-just-shot-down-25-of-the-trump-campaigns-conspiracy-theories-in-nevada/

Another abysmal failure.

the dismissal order is worth reading in its entirety. it's painfully obvious that the t dot bish crowd simply doesn't understand the voting procedures.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20420226/nevada-dismissal-order_ocr.pdf

Or how to collect evidence. It’s very strange they didn’t depose a single witness. From that it seems like they either knew the claims in the affidavits wouldn’t stand up to scrutiny or that they were incompetent litigators.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7442 on: December 05, 2020, 07:34:12 PM »
Here's how Trump can still win

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7443 on: December 05, 2020, 08:24:50 PM »
Here's how Trump can still win

Ralley his followers to take over and kill Democrats.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7444 on: December 05, 2020, 09:19:10 PM »

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7445 on: December 06, 2020, 04:31:23 AM »
As a registered Libertarian, it's always such a joke to watch the losers from the mainstream parties scream about how unfair and rigged the system is.

Whoever loses, it's always the same scene from both liberals and conservatives thrashing around having temper tantrums, crying, throwing themselves on the ground like angry children. The loser always talks about the country being doomed. The only difference between liberal losers and conservative losers is that the conservatives have guns and authorization from Jesus to use them.

This is a very bad take. The results of a presidential election affect everyone in the nation, if not the entire world. You aren't somehow above it all, and to imply that you are because you vote for a third party is as ignorant as it is arrogant. Similarly, it makes sense that because the election is in fact a big deal, people will naturally be upset when their preferred candidate loses. To mock them for caring about that is edgelord nihilism.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7446 on: December 06, 2020, 05:23:45 AM »
Similarly, it makes sense that because the election is in fact a big deal, people will naturally be upset when their preferred candidate loses. To mock them for caring about that is edgelord nihilism.

A third party supporter has to be a serious believer in democracy to believe their candidate has any chance in hell to get in office. You have to be patriotic enough to really think that on some primitive level, the system works. So to hear a rich, white Republican going on and on about the conspiracy against him is a joke. It's kind of gratifying to see him turning on those very same state level Republicans that supported him like he turned on everyone else.

I'm not going to mock anybody for caring but when they care enough to destroy themselves, everyone around them and burn the system to the ground, I will mock.            MOCK

I am a registered Libertarian, I don't always vote for them. Their primaries are a bigger freakshow than the mainstream primaries but lately there's a new normal. If they could effectively take advantage of divisions in the current Republican party with the right candidate they might be in the in the running.
 
I have known Trump's work with bankruptcy and fucking women from the nineteen-nineties and saw him coming a mile away. I voted against him.




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Re: Trump
« Reply #7447 on: December 06, 2020, 06:27:22 AM »
I am a registered Libertarian, I don't always vote for them. Their primaries are a bigger freakshow than the mainstream primaries but lately there's a new normal. If they could effectively take advantage of divisions in the current Republican party with the right candidate they might be in the in the running.
Why would disaffected Republicans vote for a libertaran? Republicans aren't libertarians ... they are conservatives.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7448 on: December 06, 2020, 06:42:50 AM »
I am a registered Libertarian, I don't always vote for them. Their primaries are a bigger freakshow than the mainstream primaries but lately there's a new normal. If they could effectively take advantage of divisions in the current Republican party with the right candidate they might be in the in the running.
Why would disaffected Republicans vote for a libertaran? Republicans aren't libertarians ... they are conservatives.

Who else would they vote for?

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7449 on: December 06, 2020, 01:13:32 PM »
Why would disaffected Republicans vote for a libertaran? Republicans aren't libertarians ... they are conservatives.

In America, Libertarians have been described as Republican from the waist up and Democrat from the waist down. There are libertarian Republicans amongst the small-government conservatives. For a number of years house Republican, Ron Paul, ran as Libertarian presidential candidate.
There are liberal Libertarians but they are not as common.
The Lincoln Project Republicans might be ready to jump ship and join a new party if the trumpian movement continues in their party.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7450 on: December 06, 2020, 01:37:42 PM »
I am a registered Libertarian, I don't always vote for them. Their primaries are a bigger freakshow than the mainstream primaries but lately there's a new normal. If they could effectively take advantage of divisions in the current Republican party with the right candidate they might be in the in the running.
Why would disaffected Republicans vote for a libertaran? Republicans aren't libertarians ... they are conservatives.

Who else would they vote for?

If you want real change ... vote with your wallet. Sure, we are citizens with a vote, but we are also capitalists and rather than just vote once every 4 years with a selection of two equally crap candidates ... as a capitalist you get to vote every damned day and you can vote in countries all over the world. You don't like how Amazon behaves? Stop using them. You don't like Nike using child labour? Stop using them. You find Uber's zero hour contracts repugnant? Stop using them. A consumer can make real change because your vote isn't ignored the second someone gets into power ... money talks and bullshit walks.

It wasn't the British citizen voting to end slavery ... it was the British consumer. British housewives boycotted anything made by slaves ... sugar, cocoa, cotton and it brought to bear so much damage on the empire that the British sent their navy out to end it. Think about that. The consumer forced the world superpower to make monumental changes globally to human rights. You will never achieve that at a ballot box. Want to end climate change? You can't vote it to end. You have to buy electric cars, choose recyclable plastics, switch to clean energy providers.

Capitalism is the fairest most democratised system known to man. You have the exact same say as Bill Gates. How much toothpaste do you use? How much do you think Bill Gates uses? Your boycott or endorsement is worth every bit as much as his. He doesn't eat 1000's of times more potatoes than you. He has no more say than you. And sure, Bill gets a say in helicopters and you don't. But being as you don't buy helicopters, why should you have a say on them? It's nothing to do with you.

Can you imagine advocating for socialism? Asking the government to remove your consumer choices and taking away the only real say you have? 🤮



^The answer to this is "The Great American Consumer. They vote for me every fucking day that they log on and endorse my platform. Millions of them. If Americans don't like how Twitter behaves, Americans can stop using Twitter. Its not an essential service and it has competitors ... good ones. Now Senator, being as you draw your mandate from a vote just once every 4 years and its between a turd sandwich and a giant douche, who the hell decided that you get to talk to me like that, you fucking peasant?"

Cruz can't end Twitter. The US government can't end Twitter. It'll be the American consumer when they abandon it and move on to something else.

So it doesn't matter who you vote for ... libertarians, conservatives, republicans, democrats ... so long as you don't vote in socialists or communists. Just keep those fuckers out and you'll be fine.



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Re: Trump
« Reply #7451 on: December 06, 2020, 05:59:03 PM »
More word on the Ware County voting machine.

Congressman Hice:





Robert Hurst, CPA:





Witness claims that he was bumped to the bottom of the list in the state senate hearing:

https://georgiastarnews.com/2020/12/05/trump-legal-team-witness-alleged-that-ware-county-audit-results-revealed-dominion-machine-flipped-ballots-from-trump-to-biden/

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Favorito explained that he’d been slated as a top ten witness for Trump’s legal team during Thursday’s State Senate hearing. Just before he was called to the stand, Favorito told The Star that an administrative assistant for the committee informed him that he was bumped to the bottom of the list “at the chairman’s discretion.”

During an interview with The John Fredericks Show, Favorito claimed that he later discovered why he’d been moved down the witness list.

“My testimony would’ve exposed the Secretary of State of Georgia, the Elections Director of Georgia, and the legal counsel of Georgia all for wrongdoing,” Favorito said. “And, being an independent, I expose corruption on both sides of the political spectrum.”


Roundy: "Debooonked. It is well known that Congressmen and CPA and the Witness are LiEinG"

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7452 on: December 06, 2020, 06:08:27 PM »
Hopefully these examinations were competent. The experts that have been put forth recently haven’t been doing a great job.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7453 on: December 06, 2020, 06:53:10 PM »
Roundy: "Debooonked. It is well known that Congressmen and CPA and the Witness are LiEinG"

Good one Tom!
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7454 on: December 06, 2020, 07:26:28 PM »
Supreme Court gets involved again, doing something which may be perceived as beneficial for the Trump effort.

Alito Moves Up Deadline For Supreme Court Briefing In Pennsylvania Case, Bringing Within 'Safe Harbor' Window To Intervene

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/alito-moves-deadline-supreme-court-briefing-pennsylvania-case-bringing-within-safe-harbor

"Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito has made a critical decision which may signal that court's willingness to hear a controversial case attempting to flip Pennsylvania's 2020 election results.

Originally, Alito set a Wednesday deadline for the state to respond to GOP Rep. Mike Kelly's lawsuit alleging that a 2019 state election reform, known as Act 77, violates both the state and federal constitutions by creating a so-called "no-excuse mail-in" voting regime.

Many took the Wednesday deadline as political theater, as it would place the case outside the "safe harbor" window which requirest that controversies "concerning the appointment of all or any of the electors . . . by judicial or other methods or procedures" to be determined" at least six days before the time fixed for the meeting of the electors," according to Law & Crime.

In other words, the Tuesday deadline may signal that the Supreme Court takes Kelly's case, which was rejected by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court with prejudice last weekend."

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7455 on: December 06, 2020, 08:01:33 PM »
OMG Tom!  This is the smoking gun!  I assume that, prior to the tweet, the congressman submitted the evidence to the state courts and have a criminal investigstion underway.  Surely he wouldn't have tweeted such a bombshell before ensuring the guilty parties were already arrested or at least being watched and not tipping them off so they can escape.

I look forward to reading the court case on the subject.

However... Have you considered the machines were altered afterwards?  Like if I was despirate to win, I'd fake fraud too so my opponent would be arrested.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7456 on: December 06, 2020, 08:19:54 PM »
Supreme Court gets involved again, doing something which may be perceived as beneficial for the Trump effort.

Alito Moves Up Deadline For Supreme Court Briefing In Pennsylvania Case, Bringing Within 'Safe Harbor' Window To Intervene

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/alito-moves-deadline-supreme-court-briefing-pennsylvania-case-bringing-within-safe-harbor

"Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito has made a critical decision which may signal that court's willingness to hear a controversial case attempting to flip Pennsylvania's 2020 election results.

Originally, Alito set a Wednesday deadline for the state to respond to GOP Rep. Mike Kelly's lawsuit alleging that a 2019 state election reform, known as Act 77, violates both the state and federal constitutions by creating a so-called "no-excuse mail-in" voting regime.

Many took the Wednesday deadline as political theater, as it would place the case outside the "safe harbor" window which requirest that controversies "concerning the appointment of all or any of the electors . . . by judicial or other methods or procedures" to be determined" at least six days before the time fixed for the meeting of the electors," according to Law & Crime.

In other words, the Tuesday deadline may signal that the Supreme Court takes Kelly's case, which was rejected by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court with prejudice last weekend."

I could be wrong, but I can't conceive of the SCOTUS discarding/invalidating 2,629,672 PA votes, both Dem and Repub, based upon PA Act 77 which was signed into law 1 year prior to the election. Regardless of how quickly or not the SCOTUS addresses the case.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7457 on: December 06, 2020, 11:09:01 PM »
Trump's flatulent lawyer, Giuliani, has reportedly tested positive.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/06/rudy-giuliani-coronavirus-covid-donald-trump

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7458 on: December 06, 2020, 11:37:00 PM »
He are reasons why the decision to move up the hearing doesn’t matter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1335651191951417345?s=20

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7459 on: December 07, 2020, 12:14:50 AM »
He are reasons why the decision to move up the hearing doesn’t matter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1335651191951417345?s=20

"worst-case scenario is that PA's electoral votes get tossed"

He does not address that such a ruling would set up a precedent for any other states that have made similar mail-in ballot laws. A bunch of them did try to make mass mail-in ballots easier to implement this election cycle. Better hope that the details of this are very specific to PA and that the same situation does not exist in other states.