@geolguy29
It's funny though isn't it. That you can use this book to accurately predict all sorts of astronomical movements.
Astronomical movements are cyclical/periodic. We can "predict" them, only because they happened before (and are cyclical/periodic)! There is no magic to it, and it doesn't involve the shape of the earth. It is all based on simple charts and observations of things that occur like clockwork. It is roughly as impressive and difficult as "predicting" it will be 12:00 at some point over the next day.
They couldn't even exist on any flat earth model.
Don't delude yourself. In potentia there is virtually never only one possibility - and if you think there is, it is most likely a failure of imagination. Most all the high priests of scientism involved in astronomy / astrophysics recognized and admitted that there was no discernible difference between a heliocentric spinning and moving (through "space") world and a geocentric fixed one that has the universe whirling around it. This was the line of reasoning originally used to convince the pope that the earth was not central and fixed, in contradiction to what the bible clearly teaches.
But millions?
Yes, even millions. There are not millions, but even if there were it would never establish the hypothesis (or model) as validated or BE science/scientific at all. It would merely validate the usefulness of that model in that million instances (within margins of error, of course). It establishes the model as (limitedly) USEFUL in those million contexts, not correct and consistent with manifest objective reality which ONLY experiment can provisionally provide in science. All bayesians fall prey to this logical error.
It must be really unfortunate as a flat earther to have all these formulas that use the Earth's sphericity in calculations that actually provide accurate predictions.
I don't know any flat earthers, but nature cares not for our consistently wrong descriptions and conceptions of it. Our equations have no bearing on manifest objective reality. The earth's sphericity exists ONLY in equation. It can ONLY be calculated, and has never been (and cannot be) measured. Once again, providing accurate predictions shows that (in that limited context and with accompanying error) it is useful, not correct! All bayesians make this mistake.
Maybe globers invented maths to fool all of us.
You have no idea how close you are to accidentally cracking this subject open. I have found a lot of support for this view historically. The globe iconography FIRST appears on coinage, and it shouldn't surprise you in whose hand this globe is depicted...
I mean, is 2+2 even 4?
Only by convention! Math worship is a real problem. Blame those ancient pedophiles and their super gay clubs!
I recommend goedel's proof. Math is a symbolic language for efficient description and conveyance/communication. It is not magic - it's just another language.
I apologise for being patronising, but I came here to have a sensible debate.
I don't think you were at all! Your questions are rudimentary/fundamental and very much valid and important to explore - even if you may not have consciously intended them that way.
However, debate is merely base pageantry for the egotistical sycophants who perform and the entertainment of the audience and judges. It has no place in effective learning/teaching, communication, or science. I do not mean to be patronizing, but it is beneath me and all smart people. I prefer rational discourse! I can recommend a place to debate this subject if you are truly hellbent on it, however. Some people enjoy playing the silly game, and I don't see anything wrong with that essentially.
But if you are going to talk absolute nonsense that this doesn't support a globe earth model then you are clearly lying to yourself or are a fake flat earther.
I've been accused of worse! In truth it is a bit weirder than that. My experience has been that there are virtually no flat earther's that fit the popularized stereotypes (slanders) associated with the term, and virtually none that self identify with the title. "Flat earther" is merely used as a derogatory by most.
What "absolute nonsense" are you referring to? I am prepared to defend and expound upon my ideas and claims!
If you can show me some calculations of astrological positions that consistently give you accurate results/predictions, that use the Earth's planar nature then there is a conversation to be had.
Again, this demonstrates a failure of imagination on your part. There is no inherent problem in describing the world as a flat and stationary plane with all the lights and motions thereof above us. You can do it in any language, including mathematics - but it will have no impact on manifest objective reality. Is it clear to you what I mean? Please let me know if not - this is critical to grasp and although simple, can still be a little tricky.
The antikythera device is an example of an ancient (>2000) computer with profound "predictive" ability that "models" the world as a flat fixed euclidian plane. It could even predict the color of the eclipse! I am quite sure that this working "model" has done nothing to convince you of the reality of a flat earth (nor should it!). Is my point clear, or does this all sound like rambling to you?