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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 27, 2018, 04:20:35 PM »
It sounds like y'all are arguing over different parts of the same thing.

Parsifal, Pete, and Rushy sound like they're saying "TDP is electrical power that's being converted to heat" which is accurate.  The CPU won't generate any watts of heat without electrical power and it will need to draw at least the amount of power needed to produce the heat it outputs.

Thork is saying that the CPU is pulling more than the heat generated (which is also true), but where he's wrong is the energy it's pulling isn't stored in the CPU.  It just passes through.  Like, unless I'm mistaken, a CPU isn't going to store a charge inside itself then release that charge to the motherboard to send a signal to read RAM.  It'll simply have a path of electrical charge that leads from the motherboard's BUS through the CPU and out to the RAM.

I would personally ony count the electrical power the CPU uses for computation within itself, not what essentially passes through after a calculation.

Of course, having almost no background in microprocessor architecture and engineering, I could be wrong about the above.

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 27, 2018, 12:24:38 PM »
Thanks, Thork.  That article was helpful.  It's not dissimilar from what I thought but different mechanics.

This means that the efficiency was increased either by having less need to switch the gates as much or lower carge amounts across the gates.  Lower charge = less heat.


Also:
Heat pipes probably have become more efficient at thermal transfer but it's likely not as big of a deal as the chip efficiency.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 27, 2018, 10:26:54 AM »
What do you know about the current state of affairs inside North Korea? Considering how insular they are, I’m going to bet you don’t know anything.
Only what escapees have said.

Look, the meeting went super well.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/27/606264786/peace-at-hand-korean-leaders-meet-for-historic-border-handshake

And yes, it could have been nothing about Trump but given that China is NK's main source of everything, the only reason I can think of that they would suddenly be feeling the pinch is if China was the one pinching.  Cause it's not like they give a damn about the general population.



And on another note...
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/27/606230683/despite-so-much-winning-the-right-feels-like-its-losing

I see this alot.  And ya know what I say?
Sucks don't it?  Now you know how gays, minorities, transgender, and basically every sub-group you've told are less than you, feels.  Suck it up ya pussies. 

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 27, 2018, 10:22:56 AM »
Actually Rushy's answer was what I needed.  Heat pipes are not new for me.  I've been a tech.  I've seen a fuck ton of them.  Hell, my own heatsink has them as does the heat sinks for my last several graphics cards.

See my thinking was that heat is generated not from the amount of actual wattage but when electrons impact a closed gate.  So thus, the more transisters you have, the more calculations you can do, then the more electron impacts you'll have.

If they've managed to make that more efficient, cut down on the amperage or internal voltage or ... whatever, then yeah, less heat.

The idea of heat pipes was already assumed.  After all, you need to move the heat from the CPU and the GPU to a spot away from both to dissipate it since you don't have the space to do it at the chips.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 27, 2018, 04:14:04 AM »
I am super not shocked.

Its also interesting to see Fox and Friends have more intelligence and insight than the president.  XD


Still gotta give him props for the NK SK peace stuff though.  Who knew actual threats of death and destruction would work?

You keep giving him props for this. Do you have any evidence that correlation=causation here? Why not credit the Olympics? Or international sanctions finally taking their toll?


Because its the only thing that's really changed: America is threatening actual war with North Korea and Trump is crazy enough to ignore MAD.


The olympics were just a place to meet and international sanctions have always had little effect since they starve their people anyway.

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 26, 2018, 08:43:20 PM »
I think reading this conversation between Dave and Thork actually killed some portion of my brain.
Why?
Please, do point out where my concerns are invalid because i'm an idiot.

Or is it that I'm being nice to thork that makes your brain rot and die?

It's your extremely... interesting opinions on heat transfer. Most systems can passively radiate more heat than you'd expect, in addition to handling higher temperatures than you'd expect, and while there are certainly a lot of things to critique about Thork's new Wondows 10 machine, not being able to dissipate heat isn't one of them. A laptop or all-in-one can dissipate 200W pretty easily and you'd only notice them getting a little lukewarm to the touch, and that's assuming the device is sitting at 100% for extended periods of time. I doubt Thork does anything like that.

However, instead of just saying that, Thork responds with "yeah well it has heat pipes" which is also hilarious.
Really?
I've got an old CPU(95W) and mid to high range powered GPU and it's constantly blasting out air even though it's got a lot of space(I mean, it's a desktop so the fan will run all the time).  I assumed that passive heat dissipation wasn't easy given how much power is going through it especially since you've got the GPU and CPU squeezed into such a tight space.

How does it do it?  Cause I remember the old laptop days of very hot, high fan speed gaming laptops.  (still have one actually).

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 26, 2018, 07:04:24 PM »
I am super not shocked.

Its also interesting to see Fox and Friends have more intelligence and insight than the president.  XD


Still gotta give him props for the NK SK peace stuff though.  Who knew actual threats of death and destruction would work?

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 26, 2018, 03:15:01 PM »
I think reading this conversation between Dave and Thork actually killed some portion of my brain.
Why?
Please, do point out where my concerns are invalid because i'm an idiot.

Or is it that I'm being nice to thork that makes your brain rot and die?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: On circumnavigation.
« on: April 26, 2018, 01:06:47 PM »
Guys guys remember...

To sail or fly in a straight line, you typically use a compass.
So when said compass starts showing you're veering off course, even if you haven't changed your steering, you will correct.  It's pretty normal.

And stars are the same way.  They move in the sky anyway, regardless of round or flat earth model.  Round earth they rotate in the sky around a central point (cause the earth rotates) and they move aross the sky at the same time because the earth revolves around the sun, thus moving it's position relative to the Earth.

In other words...

You can totally travel in a giant circle while thinking you're going straight.

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 26, 2018, 12:56:20 PM »
Eh, heat pipes usually means it's got one or two central fans that blast air out over the fins.  Alot of laptops use this since they want heat to run out of the side and not the bottom. (since bottom means more heat buildup or a hot lap) 

Still, hope you're satisfied with it once you get it. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 26, 2018, 11:07:41 AM »
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/26/605948086/michael-cohen-says-he-will-take-the-fifth-in-stormy-daniels-suit

Well, he's obviously just protecting himself from a witch hunt.

"The mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" - Trump

Oh...

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 26, 2018, 11:04:22 AM »
Ssooo...
Super thin
High powered.
Lots of ram.
Not enough vents.


Something tells me this is gonna either be super under powered due to heat issues or it'll have issues sooner than others due to constant high heat.
Well it isn't underpowered. It'll beat out any iMac with the exception of the iMac Pro that starts at £5000 and has a disease for an operating system.
So the specs would have you believe.  But I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around the heat issue.  I mean, how DO they solve the tight space and large heat generation that comes with more power?  Very powerful fan?  Super efficient processors?  I don't know but I remember you loving very quiet computers and I'm curious if you'll find this to be as quiet as you need.


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But yes, Parsifal is right.  You're getting a 4K tv to go with your 2005 DVD player.
I don't understand this analogy at all? This is a mid range PC to run a 4k screen. I don't see the problem here. I can watch 4 vids on it and edit 4k images which I need to do for work ... and it is a competent computer as well, to do all the stuff I need.
Ok, if you need to edit 4k images for work then that's another story.  But from what you posted earlier, it sounded like you bought a VR ready 4k computer but had no intention of using anything that would run at 4k.  ie. a 4k TV to run a DVD whose resolution is 640x480 or even require that much raw power.

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 26, 2018, 06:10:56 AM »
Ssooo...
Super thin
High powered.
Lots of ram.
Not enough vents.


Something tells me this is gonna either be super under powered due to heat issues or it'll have issues sooner than others due to constant high heat.




But yes, Parsifal is right.  You're getting a 4K tv to go with your 2005 DVD player.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another big Mass Shooting
« on: April 25, 2018, 06:47:11 PM »
Why do I care about someone suffering in what is essentially just a longer form of the death penalty? I've never understood the "we have to punish them" approach to crime. We just have to remove them from society, punishing them is meaningless. Banning them from the universe seems like a cheaper and easier punishment than having them waste away in some cell for years.
US Society seems to prefer suffereage over reform.  They like the idea of people suffering, of hurting because they hurt someone else.  It's not logical, it's vengeful.

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Maybe he has mental health issues and needs help.

His mental health issues are apparently a direct result of "tfw no gf" so unless you plan on issuing him a state-sponsored girlfriend I think he's better off in the ground where at least the amount of damage he can still do to anyone around him is zero.

Maybe.  Or he had other issues.  The "I've no GF so I'm angry as fuck" does happen but you also have "I'm angry as fuck and murder people cause I have a giant fucking tumor in my brain and no one noticed". or "I'm a violent asshole cause I've been hit in the head so many times that my brain is missing large pieces from it."

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer
« on: April 25, 2018, 04:24:32 PM »
Is that one of those "All in One" things?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another big Mass Shooting
« on: April 25, 2018, 03:25:54 PM »
Meanwhile in Canada, a perpetrator who had just finished running over 20 or so people was taken down without a shot being fired.

Impressive as the cop, puts his gun away and pulls his batton, in Luke-world he would have been dead, Americans seem to have forgotten the protect and serve mantra, in favour of look after number one.

Now instead of getting the Instant Death Penalty he'll be stuck in a concrete room wasting tax payer dollars. Definitely the better outcome for everyone, haha. All thanks to "if you kill your enemies, they win" Trudeau.
To be fair:
You suffer longer in prison.  And America is all about suffering.  So which is better for society?  A quick, easy death for a criminal, or knowing he'll rot and suffer for decades, longing for death as he's raped over and over again by those bigger than him?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: April 25, 2018, 03:23:04 PM »
Imagine being a father and getting this upset at what your children and their friends watch, knowing it will shape and influence their minds for the next few years, if not longer.
You can't control what they watch at their friends' houses, but you can control what they watch at home. I don't want to tell anyone how to raise their kids, but it seems like there's a pretty obvious solution if you don't approve of what they're watching on your TV.


True, but I can still weep for society.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 25, 2018, 12:49:22 PM »
http://www.latlmes.com/nation/mueller-says-he-has-ample-evidence-to-impeach-trump-1


OMFG!
I knew it!  I'm so glad Meuller found the pee tape.  Though I didn't expect that he also had all of Hillary's missing emails.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: April 25, 2018, 11:34:28 AM »
Imagine being a grown man and getting this upset about children's cartoons.

P.S.: FromSoftware should definitely make Belly Fat Living Puppet Wizard Souls.
Imagine being a father and getting this upset at what your children and their friends watch, knowing it will shape and influence their minds for the next few years, if not longer.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: April 25, 2018, 08:09:48 AM »
Lord Dave just hates fun.
Not true.  I love fun.  You all just wrong about what's fun.

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