3661

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Zetetic Council

« on: December 07, 2013, 06:11:19 PM »

Check you out, trying to take Parsifal and PP's power away. They may decide to share power or give it away, or decide to set up a Zetetic Council. Who are you to say that they shouldn't have absolute power?

i'm one of the many users on this site with no power. That was kind of an odd question.
Are you suggesting Parsifal should be president?

We all voted with our feet to trust in their ability to administrate and look after the site. I'm not so sure we also voted them to lead the sociey. I was of the impression the society should be run by its members at last. Not by people who know the passwords for the forum. That's what ruined FES the last time.

We all must fall under someones password control, unless you have your own website. Then we must fall under your password control.

What has that got to do with the community deciding on how the society is run?

It means Parsifil is boss for now.

Have you been following at all what we are doing here?


The forum is a platform for discussion and ideas.  FE-related and unrelated alike.  The council would be a separate entity that would overlap with the forum, but directs the society's actions, not the forums.  Of course, it would be smoother to have both entities on the same page, which I am confident we can accomplish.

3662

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Zetetic Council

« on: December 07, 2013, 06:04:53 PM »

Check you out, trying to take Parsifal and PP's power away. They may decide to share power or give it away, or decide to set up a Zetetic Council. Who are you to say that they shouldn't have absolute power?

i'm one of the many users on this site with no power. That was kind of an odd question.
Are you suggesting Parsifal should be president?

We all voted with our feet to trust in their ability to administrate and look after the site. I'm not so sure we also voted them to lead the sociey. I was of the impression the society should be run by its members at last. Not by people who know the passwords for the forum. That's what ruined FES the last time.

We all know this.  Please ignore Hoppy.

3663

Announcements / Re: Website and library sources now on GitHub

« on: December 07, 2013, 05:25:13 PM »

Clearly you don't value the security of our forum.

On a serious note, thank you.

3664

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread

« on: December 07, 2013, 05:05:36 PM »

junker doesn't believe in variance.

False.

3665

Announcements / tfes.org Twitter and Google+

« on: December 07, 2013, 05:04:07 PM »

It is official, we have Twitter and Google+ profiles.  Actually it has been official for a few days.  There is no content yet.  I have used the forum logo and have asked Blanko to help our to make the pages less hideous.  Secret User and I will be working on these together, and would love input from others.  Both of us are going to be quite busy the next week and a half, so updates may be sparse other than getting things customized.  If anyone has ideas, I am happy to implement them.

Twitter:   https://twitter.com/flatearthorg

Google+:  https://plus.google.com/+TfesOrgOfficial/

There is also a Google Plus page, which is where I plan to put most of the updates, since the individual profile is kind of pointless for us.

EDIT:  Updated to reflect new, official G+ page.  Locked.

3666

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread

« on: December 07, 2013, 04:07:31 PM »

but if it were not for one ridiculously lucky play by Eli and an equally stupid catch, the Pats win that game.

Irrelevant. 

3667

Technology & Information / Re: How to Subnet, an Example

« on: December 07, 2013, 04:02:56 PM »

Please explain.

https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-17232

Cisco does it better.

This thread is based on IPv4 which I am nearly qualified in.  Keep questions related to that.  I can only hope to be qualified on IPv6 in the coming decades.

3668

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Saddam's Troll concerns

« on: December 07, 2013, 03:52:02 PM »

I have hopes that he will turn it around.  I base this on absolutely nothing.

3669

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: FES Video

« on: December 07, 2013, 03:51:05 PM »

We should first make a transcript and/or story board sketches and run it past the community to discuss.

Agree.

We need to prioritize content and try to set some timeframes when we can have them done.  I fear that if we try too many things at once, we won't end up producing enough content.

3670

Announcements / Re: We have our first cloud-hosted subdomain!

« on: December 07, 2013, 03:49:16 PM »

I am getting 40Mb-50Mb per second downloads.  Latency varies wildly.  18ms on the low side, 100+ on the high side.

3671

Technology & Information / Re: How to Subnet, an Example

« on: December 07, 2013, 07:27:45 AM »

Can I subsnets with IVP6?

Yes.

3672

Technology & Information / Re: How to Subnet, an Example

« on: December 07, 2013, 07:01:33 AM »

lol no one uses presenation layer willingly

How would you know? You're not qualified.

I know

3673

Technology & Information / Re: How to Subnet, an Example

« on: December 07, 2013, 06:49:54 AM »

You subnet to get IPs.  I can also teach you all about the OSI, especially layers 2 and 3.  I am a pro, almost qualified.

Can you teach me about layer 6? It's the one I know least about.

lol no one uses presenation layer willingly

3674

Technology & Information / Re: How to Subnet, an Example

« on: December 07, 2013, 06:32:41 AM »

junker, good job.  My only suggestion would be to actually explain the purpose of a subnetwork, what the subnet mask does as far as dividing a network up, and a little better explanation on how the subnets interact with the networks.

Oh, fuck that.  If people have questions, they can ask and I will answer.

You subnet to get IPs.  I can also teach you all about the OSI, especially layers 2 and 3.  I am a pro, almost qualified.

3675

Technology & Information / Re: How to Subnet, an Example

« on: December 07, 2013, 06:17:05 AM »

How do I use YouTube to hack a website?

THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS THREAD

I AM NOT QUALIFIED

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Technology & Information / How to Subnet, an Example

« on: December 07, 2013, 06:13:48 AM »

How to subnet the following IP:
10.96.42.37 /28


1) Determine your subnet mask based on the “slash” or “CIDR” notation (the /28).  It is about which bit is on and off in each octet, which I can explain more if anyone wants.  A quick reference to all relevant IPv4 subnet masks:

/1 - 128.0.0.0
/2 - 192.0.0.0
/3 - 224.0.0.0
/4 - 240.0.0.0
/5 - 248.0.0.0
/6 - 252.0.0.0
/7 - 254.0.0.0
/8 - 255.0.0.0
/9 - 255.128.0.0
/10 - 255.192.0.0
/11 - 255.224.0.0
/12 - 255.240.0.0
/13 - 255.248.0.0
/14 - 255.252.0.0
/15 - 255.254.0.0
/16 - 255.255.0.0
/17 - 255.255.128.0
/18 - 255.255.192.0
/19 - 255.255.224.0
/20 - 255.255.240.0
/21 - 255.255.248.0
/22 - 255.255.252.0
/23 - 255.255.254.0
/24 - 255.255.255.0
/25 - 255.255.255.128
/26 - 255.255.255.192
/27 - 255.255.255.224
/28 - 255.255.255.240
/29 - 255.255.255.248
/30 - 255.255.255.252

So the subnet mask of /28 is 255.255.255.240


2) Determine block size.  Simple, 256 - (the value of the octet you are subnetting in)

   In this case, “256 - 240” which is 16


3) Determine the network address of the subnet.  This is the first IP in the subnet, but it is not useable.  Start at 0, then count by the block size until you reach the range of the octet you are subnetting in.  In this case /28 is in the last octet, so based on IP 10.96.42.37 you are trying to find the range where .37 falls.  0, 16, 32, 48…  .37 falls in between 32 and 48, so 32 is the network address, more specifically 10.96.42.32 is the network address.


4) Determine the broadcast address of the subnet.  This is always the IP before the next network address.  Since, in step 3 we determined 10.96.42.32 is a network address, and 10.96.42.48 is the next network, 10.96.42.47 is the broadcast address.  The broadcast address is also not a useable IP.


5) Determine the number of useable host IPs.  Easy step…  (2^n)-2 where n = 32 - (the CIDR number).  In this case, 2^(32-28)-2=14.  It makes sense, the block size is 16, so there are 16 IPs in the subnet, you can’t use the network address or the broadcast address, so subtract 2.


6) Determine the useable host range.  Steps 3 and 4 are great, but you can’t use the IP addresses.  So, find out what you can use.  This is easy, the range starts at the IP after the network address, and ends at the IP before the broadcast address.  So, in this instance, the useable range is 10.96.42.33-10.96.42.47.



I have no idea why I posted this, but if you have any questions, or want to know more about networking in general please ask.


DISCLAIMER:  I AM NOT QUALIFIED

3677

Technology & Information / Re: Laptop needed

« on: December 07, 2013, 05:44:06 AM »

Ah, no bueno.

3678

Technology & Information / Re: Laptop needed

« on: December 07, 2013, 05:34:26 AM »

Did you decide?

No. I saw an awesome Sony Viao with the exact specs I wanted for the price ... but the viao is a note book ergo no disk drive.

I'l do some serious shopping this weekend.

If it has everything, get it and go with an external drive.  They can be had for $40 or less and used as desired.

3679

Technology & Information / Re: Laptop needed

« on: December 07, 2013, 05:30:50 AM »

He will mostly use it for internet and playing his games. They tend not to be top of the range brand new, but I want to get him something nice.

What do you guys suggest? I'd like somthing that looks awesome like a macbook air or a sony viao or something

I guess you read what you want to read.

Did you decide?

3680

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Saddam's Troll concerns

« on: December 07, 2013, 04:21:07 AM »

If he would just quit with the bullcrap "flippin" shit, I think it would be fine.