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« Reply #11220 on: February 21, 2024, 06:58:11 AM »
Well, it looks like there are a lot of very stupid people out there
That was pretty much my point
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Trump
« Reply #11221 on: February 21, 2024, 07:38:26 AM »
Well, it looks like you guys have missed out on another smart Trump investment.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=trump+sneakers&_sacat=0&_sop=16&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1




And did you buy yours, Tom?

Also, a markup of 500 to 1000% is unlikely.  Most likely its someone trying to cash in and inflating the bid himself or with other accounts.  I'd be ocked if most of these were sold.
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« Reply #11222 on: February 22, 2024, 08:09:31 PM »
I can't believe I missed out on the chance to own a pair of golden Trump sneakers! I hope he releases more, I'd gladly pay $1000 for a pair.

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« Reply #11223 on: February 23, 2024, 01:22:58 PM »
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"I go to church and I love God and I love my church," Trump boldly pronounced but in an interview on Bloomberg TV's "With All Due Respect." But he said the Bible was too personal to him to "get into specifics."

"The Bible means a lot to me, but I don't want to get into specifics," Trump told Bloomberg’s Mark Halperin, refusing to list one or two favorite verses.

Pressed again, Trump said the Bible was simply too personal to discuss publicly: "I wouldn't want to get into it because to me that's very personal. You know, when I talk about the Bible, it's very personal, so I don't want to get into verses."

John Heilemann, searching for a workaround, then asked Trump if he considered himself "an Old Testament guy or a New Testament guy."

"Probably equal," Trump answered matter-of-factly, explaining his inability to select just one: "The whole Bible is just incredible.”

lol this exchange is amazing
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« Reply #11224 on: February 23, 2024, 01:50:30 PM »
My favorite verse in the bible is the one about owning big casinos and having a golden toilet.

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« Reply #11225 on: February 23, 2024, 03:15:46 PM »
Mine is about how slaves were the only thing worth fighting for.
(I'm serious.   There's a passage where a city is being seiged and the enemy took all the riches.  The king did nothing.  Then they took all yhe women and children.  The king did nothing.  Then they were gonna take the servants.  The king sent 12 of his sons out and they slaughtered the whole army.)
The conviction will get overturned on appeal.

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« Reply #11226 on: February 23, 2024, 04:16:55 PM »
Mine is about how slaves were the only thing worth fighting for.
(I'm serious.   There's a passage where a city is being seiged and the enemy took all the riches.  The king did nothing.  Then they took all yhe women and children.  The king did nothing.  Then they were gonna take the servants.  The king sent 12 of his sons out and they slaughtered the whole army.)

You can easily find more riches; likewise, you can easily find more women to have more children. You know what's really hard to find? A good slave.

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« Reply #11227 on: February 23, 2024, 05:27:52 PM »
As a National poll update:

Trump vs Biden: Trump +1.9
Trump vs Biden vs Kennedy: Trump +4.5
Trump vs Biden vs Kennedy vs West vs Stein: Trump +4.7

Source is realclearpolling.com, RealClear does not weight its polls by how "trustworthy" the pollster is so keep that in mind.

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« Reply #11228 on: March 04, 2024, 03:13:31 AM »
I didn't notice this when it was first posted, my bad.

Ah, yes, corruption in the DNC is irrelevant. What is relevant is how the corruption was revealed!

Correct, corruption in the DNC is irrelevant to the seriousness of a hostile foreign power interfering in our elections for their own gain. Election interference does not become okay or justified if genuine corruption ends up being exposed any more than murder becomes okay or justified if it turns out that the victim was a bad person.

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It's like when you catch someone cheating on you and they get mad you were looking at their phone. The DNC was, and still is, corrupt, but you do not care about that. They rugpulled Bernie Sanders, a politician you supposedly liked, but still, you do not care. It's fascinating, really. When given blatant evidence that the people you voted for rigged the game so that you have to vote for them, you don't mind all that much.

I never said I didn't care. I said it was irrelevant to the seriousness of Russia interfering in our elections, which it is.

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You see, we've successfully bamboozled the American public into voting between two old-ass neocons. Trump? Biden? You won't notice the difference. It doesn't matter who you vote for, you're getting an old neocon either way! Face it, the elites have checkmated America in a way so fabulous that it can't help but be lauded. Even given evidence of them doing it, you still won't care. It's a masterpiece of political engineering.

It's always conservatives who cry both sides! in online discussions, and it's always simultaneously (and seemingly paradoxically) in support of a conservative politician or agenda. If there were no difference between Biden and Trump and it didn't matter whom we voted for, then Putin wouldn't have gone to all that effort to get Trump elected in the first place. He knew that Trump had no real understanding of or interest in international politics and certainly no deeply-held political positions, and he knew that Trump's policy decisions would come down to Trump's personal whims rather than any non-existent political or ethical philosophy. Trump is no less shallow and ignorant now than he was in 2016. If Trump returns to office, he will once again base his decisions almost entirely on his own personal whims, and Putin will take advantage of this to try to flatter and manipulate Trump into turning on Ukraine. If Trump's constant fawning over Putin in his first term in office is any indication, he'll almost certainly succeed.

Incidentally, it's a strange time to make false both-sides equivalences when it was just last year that we had the momentous - and extremely unpopular, let's not forget - Supreme Court decision striking down Roe. That would never have happened if it had been a Democrat in office, given how all three of Trump's nominees formed half of the majority opinion in that case. That's not both-sides business as usual, that's specifically the conservative agenda supported by Republican politicians at work. The voters can and should punish Republicans (especially Trump) for this in November, although sadly I don't expect them to.
ur retartet but u donut even no it and i walnut tell u y

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« Reply #11229 on: March 04, 2024, 02:31:10 PM »
Correct, corruption in the DNC is irrelevant to the seriousness of a hostile foreign power interfering in our elections for their own gain. Election interference does not become okay or justified if genuine corruption ends up being exposed any more than murder becomes okay or justified if it turns out that the victim was a bad person.

No one here said election interference is okay, it's just that the DNC did nothing about the corruption at all. They just let it slide, just as you are, because the bad people exposed it. Corruption is only bad if good people expose it!

I never said I didn't care. I said it was irrelevant to the seriousness of Russia interfering in our elections, which it is.

That's called... not caring.

It's always conservatives who cry both sides! in online discussions, and it's always simultaneously (and seemingly paradoxically) in support of a conservative politician or agenda. If there were no difference between Biden and Trump and it didn't matter whom we voted for, then Putin wouldn't have gone to all that effort to get Trump elected in the first place. He knew that Trump had no real understanding of or interest in international politics and certainly no deeply-held political positions, and he knew that Trump's policy decisions would come down to Trump's personal whims rather than any non-existent political or ethical philosophy. Trump is no less shallow and ignorant now than he was in 2016. If Trump returns to office, he will once again base his decisions almost entirely on his own personal whims, and Putin will take advantage of this to try to flatter and manipulate Trump into turning on Ukraine. If Trump's constant fawning over Putin in his first term in office is any indication, he'll almost certainly succeed.

Incidentally, it's a strange time to make false both-sides equivalences when it was just last year that we had the momentous - and extremely unpopular, let's not forget - Supreme Court decision striking down Roe. That would never have happened if it had been a Democrat in office, given how all three of Trump's nominees formed half of the majority opinion in that case. That's not both-sides business as usual, that's specifically the conservative agenda supported by Republican politicians at work. The voters can and should punish Republicans (especially Trump) for this in November, although sadly I don't expect them to.

Here's the thing though, the "Putin wants Trump" propaganda is... a lie. It didn't happen. It doesn't exist. Hillary made it up as a smear and it persists despite a complete lack of evidence.

Also, it's not a coincidence that Roe v Wade meets its end under a Catholic president, but I'm sure you think it's still Trump's fault! It's like if someone doesn't explicitly explain every fine detail of politics to you, you miss the plot entirely! The concept of Biden being a conservative, which he is, probably doesn't compute because he keeps doing conservative actions while saying liberal words.

You say I am "both sides"'ing you, but surely you've noticed Biden is farther right than Obama, who was already a centrist! You've been tricked into voting between two conservatives and you don't even mind!

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« Reply #11230 on: March 04, 2024, 05:14:17 PM »
Leftists have gone off the plot and are far too radical for the average person. The public does not agree with this and have been increasingly rejecting it. Even the left-leaning Supreme Court judges have voted against the tactics of the left.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-unanimously-for-trump-in-colorado-ballot-disqualification-dispute

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« Reply #11231 on: March 04, 2024, 07:46:05 PM »
The left loves to project. When the corrupt left does something that all nine members of the Supreme Court unanimously rule is illegitimate, somehow it is the Supreme Court which is corrupt and illegitimate.

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« Reply #11232 on: March 04, 2024, 08:53:31 PM »
The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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« Reply #11233 on: March 04, 2024, 09:12:18 PM »
The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.
No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.
The conviction will get overturned on appeal.

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« Reply #11234 on: March 05, 2024, 07:49:22 AM »
The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.
No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.
Yeah, I did read it. It is up to Congress to determine that. And they already did in the 2nd Impeachment.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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« Reply #11235 on: March 05, 2024, 09:34:32 AM »
The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.
No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.
Yeah, I did read it. It is up to Congress to determine that. And they already did in the 2nd Impeachment.

Incorrect.
Congress does not determine guilt or innocence.  Otherwise Bill Clinton did nothing wrong.
The conviction will get overturned on appeal.

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« Reply #11236 on: March 05, 2024, 10:04:22 AM »
The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.
No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.
Yeah, I did read it. It is up to Congress to determine that. And they already did in the 2nd Impeachment.

Incorrect.
Congress does not determine guilt or innocence.  Otherwise Bill Clinton did nothing wrong.
Trump was acquitted in the 2nd Impeachment.

Congress did not bar Trump from holding a federal office.

So, you are incorrect.

As usual.
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« Reply #11237 on: March 05, 2024, 11:01:36 AM »
The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.
No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.
Yeah, I did read it. It is up to Congress to determine that. And they already did in the 2nd Impeachment.

Incorrect.
Congress does not determine guilt or innocence.  Otherwise Bill Clinton did nothing wrong.
Trump was acquitted in the 2nd Impeachment.

Congress did not bar Trump from holding a federal office.

So, you are incorrect.

As usual.
You are correct, I am.

Well, thats a bad ruling.  Means insurrection is ok so long as your party controls congress.

Joe better get impeached, then, so he can be immune to legal issues later.
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The conviction will get overturned on appeal.

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« Reply #11238 on: March 05, 2024, 01:52:53 PM »
You are correct, I am.

Well, thats a bad ruling.  Means insurrection is ok so long as your party controls congress.

Joe better get impeached, then, so he can be immune to legal issues later.
It means there was not enough evidence to convict Trump of inciting an insurrection.

It means the words incitement and insurrection don't mean what you think they mean.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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« Reply #11239 on: March 05, 2024, 03:42:49 PM »
You are correct, I am.

Well, thats a bad ruling.  Means insurrection is ok so long as your party controls congress.

Joe better get impeached, then, so he can be immune to legal issues later.
It means there was not enough evidence to convict Trump of inciting an insurrection.

It means the words incitement and insurrection don't mean what you think they mean.
Despite his party all saying they would vote no to remove before seeing any evidence?
Surely you're trolling.
The conviction will get overturned on appeal.