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Re: Trump
« Reply #11260 on: March 14, 2024, 01:13:19 PM »
The very first question by "the "man in the street," to the layperson had to do with the issue of a "shining light cure," for respiratory illness, such as corona.

Since UV light is a safe and effective treatment, as anyone can see, can we just dispose of your nonsense now?
Are you currently in training for the "missing the point" event in the 2024 Paris Olympics?
If so then I think the US is a shoo-in for a gold medal.

The point is not whether what Trump said was stupid, or whether what Trump did was bad.

The point is that the same person when presented with a certain statement declared it the ramblings of a dementia patient when told it was Biden who said it. When the reporter pretended that "whoopsie-doodle, I got my notes mixed up" and told them it was actually Trump who said it then suddenly it was all "well, it would depend what that technology was..." and so on.

Do you see the problem?
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Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #11261 on: March 14, 2024, 01:22:03 PM »
The very first question by "the "man in the street," to the layperson had to do with the issue of a "shining light cure," for respiratory illness, such as corona.

Since UV light is a safe and effective treatment, as anyone can see, can we just dispose of your nonsense now?
Are you currently in training for the "missing the point" event in the 2024 Paris Olympics?
If so then I think the US is a shoo-in for a gold medal.

The point is not whether what Trump said was stupid, or whether what Trump did was bad.

The point is that the same person when presented with a certain statement declared it the ramblings of a dementia patient when told it was Biden who said it. When the person pretended that "whoopsie-doodle, I got my notes mixed up" and told them it was actually Trump who said it then suddenly it was all "well, it would depend what that technology was..." and so on.

Do you see the problem?
If you are claiming the average joe on the street doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, you got no argument from me. I see it exhibited in a multitude of posts from the re-adherents here everyday.

I mean, Mark Dice has done much of the same schtick buttwipe Jimmy tried to foist off as original in the lame vid you posted. The difference being the thing they are trying to backhandedly mock Trump for is actually legitimate and, regardless of who brought it up, that person should be acknowledged as having a legitimate point.

So, yeah...seems you are trying to mock some other people on the street who do not know shit, when it seems you do not know the same shit.

Tell me how this makes you any sort of arbiter.

But hey, never fear...those fearless minions in Georgia really got him now...
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« Reply #11262 on: March 14, 2024, 01:47:32 PM »
If you are claiming the average joe on the street doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, you got no argument from me.
Well alrighty then. In that case I guess we're not too far apart on this one.
But it is troubling. These people can vote. And there they are doing a 180 degree turn on the spot depending on whether a certain event or comment they're presented with is said to have come from Biden (in which case it's "Boo! Hiss! Biden bad") or Trump (in which case it's "Well, he has a point. U-S-A! U-S-A!")

Again, you're getting bogged down in the detail of whether you can shine UV light in to someone and cure Covid. It doesn't matter. It was just one example in the video. There are others. The point is the people's opinions about what was said or done wasn't based on the merits of them but based entirely on who they were told had said or done those things. I'm not saying Trump has a monopoly on stupid voters by the way, but sheesh! No wonder we end up with such poor leaders.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

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« Reply #11263 on: March 14, 2024, 02:04:23 PM »
Sigh.

video snipped because Jimmy Kimmel is a goddamn moron

This is why democracy is a terrible idea.
The very first question by "the "man in the street," to the layperson had to do with the issue of a "shining light cure," for respiratory illness, such as corona.

Since UV light is a safe and effective treatment, as anyone can see, can we just dispose of your nonsense now?

https://www.google.com/search?q=UV+light+treatment+for+respiratory+illness&rlz=1C1GCEO_en&oq=UV+light+treatment+for+respiratory+illness&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigAdIBCTEyOTQzajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Nice find.

I mean, it was done after Trump said it but thats not the point.  If it was, why did they say Joe Biden had dimentia?  Surely the answers should have been the same regardless of who said it, no?
What do you mean it was done after Trump said it?

A pharmaceutical company made mention of it three days prior to Trump stating it.
Source?  Because the paper was published in 2021 and Trump's words were in 2020.


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I suppose when anyone mentions Joe Biden has dementia, it is because the rackety old paedo has dementia.

So you admit that its not what's said but who says it.  Love the honesty on your hypocracy.
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« Reply #11264 on: March 14, 2024, 03:17:07 PM »
If you are claiming the average joe on the street doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, you got no argument from me.
Well alrighty then. In that case I guess we're not too far apart on this one.
But it is troubling. These people can vote. And there they are doing a 180 degree turn on the spot depending on whether a certain event or comment they're presented with is said to have come from Biden (in which case it's "Boo! Hiss! Biden bad") or Trump (in which case it's "Well, he has a point. U-S-A! U-S-A!")

Again, you're getting bogged down in the detail of whether you can shine UV light in to someone and cure Covid. It doesn't matter. It was just one example in the video. There are others. The point is the people's opinions about what was said or done wasn't based on the merits of them but based entirely on who they were told had said or done those things. I'm not saying Trump has a monopoly on stupid voters by the way, but sheesh! No wonder we end up with such poor leaders.
Again, you are calling into question whether these people should be allowed to vote, when you yourself, on these very boards, were making fun of Trump for making the truthful statement about UV therapeutic treatment, when he made it.

I am going to remind everyone here of the real big, fucking lie you propagated in this very thread:
Just, please don't drink bleach to own the libs.
Don't you tell me what to do  >:(

He really has to stop saying this shit. I know some people think that the press unfairly obsess over him, maybe with some justification, but holy shit he gives a lot of ammo.
Trump never said anything about drinking bleach.  And you are supposedly making a critical post about the abilities of other people to cast a reasoned vote, based on their inability to correctly attribute quotes? Are you fucking serious?
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« Reply #11265 on: March 14, 2024, 03:21:35 PM »
Source? 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/02/fact-check-covid-19-uv-light-treatment-research-underway-los-angeles/3053177001/

"On April 20, three days before Trump made his remarks, pharmaceutical company Aytu Bioscience announced that it had signed an exclusive license for worldwide rights to the Healight Platform Technology under research at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles."

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I suppose when anyone mentions Joe Biden has dementia, it is because the rackety old paedo has dementia.

So you admit that its not what's said but who says it.  Love the honesty on your hypocracy.
What hypocrisy?

There is nothing that old paedo fuck could ever say that would be remotely truthful or worthwhile.
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« Reply #11266 on: March 14, 2024, 03:25:32 PM »
Comedy routines involving "random" ordinary people saying stupid things should never be taken as a representative sample of anything or in any way meaningful. It's a very real possibility that these interviews were entirely scripted and these people were paid to take part in the charade. And if they weren't scripted, they were almost certainly carefully selected from dozens of other interviews. If you spend hours and hours talking to lots and lots of people, you're bound to eventually run into someone of picturesque stupidity.
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« Reply #11267 on: March 14, 2024, 05:32:22 PM »
Source? 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/02/fact-check-covid-19-uv-light-treatment-research-underway-los-angeles/3053177001/

"On April 20, three days before Trump made his remarks, pharmaceutical company Aytu Bioscience announced that it had signed an exclusive license for worldwide rights to the Healight Platform Technology under research at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles."
Well, good to know he's really really bad at siting sources.  And context since he was just talking about disinfecting rooms with light.  But hey, good on you for proving a point.

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So you admit that its not what's said but who says it.  Love the honesty on your hypocracy.
What hypocrisy?

There is nothing that old paedo fuck could ever say that would be remotely truthful or worthwhile.
The different answers based on the same words.  But as Honk said, was likely staged or carefully picked. 
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« Reply #11268 on: March 14, 2024, 05:49:01 PM »
Source? 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/02/fact-check-covid-19-uv-light-treatment-research-underway-los-angeles/3053177001/

"On April 20, three days before Trump made his remarks, pharmaceutical company Aytu Bioscience announced that it had signed an exclusive license for worldwide rights to the Healight Platform Technology under research at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles."
Well, good to know he's really really bad at siting sources.  And context since he was just talking about disinfecting rooms with light.  But hey, good on you for proving a point.
No, he was talking about potential therapy for respiratory infections.

And no one really cares if some ex-patriate has an opinion regarding some other person being bad at citing sources, since that same ex-patriate is terrible at reading comprehension.

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So you admit that its not what's said but who says it.  Love the honesty on your hypocracy.
What hypocrisy?

There is nothing that old paedo fuck could ever say that would be remotely truthful or worthwhile.
The different answers based on the same words.  But as Honk said, was likely staged or carefully picked.
Not only was it staged, it was horrendously staged. Given the feeble first step of offering a quote regarding something that was actually legitimate.

The asshat writers of Kimmel's show are just as stupid as some of the re-adherents posting on this forum.
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« Reply #11269 on: March 15, 2024, 09:04:12 AM »
Comedy routines involving "random" ordinary people saying stupid things should never be taken as a representative sample of anything or in any way meaningful. It's a very real possibility that these interviews were entirely scripted and these people were paid to take part in the charade. And if they weren't scripted, they were almost certainly carefully selected from dozens of other interviews. If you spend hours and hours talking to lots and lots of people, you're bound to eventually run into someone of picturesque stupidity.
Well, that's all fair.
But Trump's going to get in again, isn't he? The number of people who think like the above are not insignificant. We see people on here posting like it. It doesn't matter what is said or done, the only think that matters is who said or did it. Trump good. Biden bad. Simple as that.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #11270 on: March 15, 2024, 09:33:57 AM »
Comedy routines involving "random" ordinary people saying stupid things should never be taken as a representative sample of anything or in any way meaningful. It's a very real possibility that these interviews were entirely scripted and these people were paid to take part in the charade. And if they weren't scripted, they were almost certainly carefully selected from dozens of other interviews. If you spend hours and hours talking to lots and lots of people, you're bound to eventually run into someone of picturesque stupidity.
Well, that's all fair.
But Trump's going to get in again, isn't he? The number of people who think like the above are not insignificant. We see people on here posting like it. It doesn't matter what is said or done, the only think that matters is who said or did it. Trump good. Biden bad. Simple as that.

Soo... He might not.  Guess who picked thr RNC's new leadership?  Trump.

https://apnews.com/article/republican-national-committee-trump-whatley-legal-fees-53402f8e8ac845db3cf4ab82c882ea74

His first hand picked leader was kicked out for his second.  And his daughter-in-law.  Because nepotism is a thing.

They've already canceled several programs and staff cuts.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/main-in-voting-bank-your-vote-republicans-rcna143291

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/12/1238049339/rnc-layoffs-staff-cuts-republican-party-trump-whatley-lara#:~:text=the%20Trump%20campaign.-,More%20than%2060%20people%20were%20fired%2C%20including%20senior%20staff%20in,American%2C%20Asian%20and%20Hispanic%20communities.
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« Reply #11271 on: March 15, 2024, 02:15:02 PM »
So, I fail to understand how you lifelong socialists are against another lifelong socialist...what's the real message here?
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« Reply #11272 on: March 18, 2024, 03:28:10 PM »
Maybe this is just a symptom of certain posters being gone or banned, but I'm surprised no one here is shrieking about the "bloodbath" comment that the media has been crying about. The situation seems to be a case of a single word taken out of context to declare that Trump was calling for a violent "bloodbath" if he loses.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/03/18/cnn-analyst-spreads-disinformation-to-get-feds-to-meddle-in-elections-against-trump/

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On Saturday, Trump warned Americans of an economic “bloodbath” in the auto industry if Biden wins a second term.

“China now is building a couple of massive plants where they’re going to build the cars in Mexico,” Trump said during an Ohio rally. “[China thinks] that they’re going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border.”

“We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars — if I get elected,” the former president continued. “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath.”

Democrats and the media, however, cut the clip to suggest the former president was simply saying there would “be a bloodbath” if he lost. All over TV screens and social media last weekend, they spread the deliberately false disinformation narrative that Trump had called for a violent “bloodbath” if he loses.
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« Reply #11273 on: March 18, 2024, 04:32:13 PM »
Most everyone here has no problem with the performance of the economy under Trump and most everyone here has little to no clue of what a trade tariff actually is.

Everyone here is getting tired of being totally wrong about the "thing Trump said."

"They," have been exposed as the secret "OMG" team they've been, all along.
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« Reply #11274 on: March 18, 2024, 07:31:37 PM »
Maybe this is just a symptom of certain posters being gone or banned, but I'm surprised no one here is shrieking about the "bloodbath" comment that the media has been crying about. The situation seems to be a case of a single word taken out of context to declare that Trump was calling for a violent "bloodbath" if he loses.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/03/18/cnn-analyst-spreads-disinformation-to-get-feds-to-meddle-in-elections-against-trump/

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On Saturday, Trump warned Americans of an economic “bloodbath” in the auto industry if Biden wins a second term.

“China now is building a couple of massive plants where they’re going to build the cars in Mexico,” Trump said during an Ohio rally. “[China thinks] that they’re going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border.”

“We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars — if I get elected,” the former president continued. “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath.”

Democrats and the media, however, cut the clip to suggest the former president was simply saying there would “be a bloodbath” if he lost. All over TV screens and social media last weekend, they spread the deliberately false disinformation narrative that Trump had called for a violent “bloodbath” if he loses.

Because we can read.

Tho not sure how he's gonna do that.  I mean, he signed the agreement China will use to get cars over the border.  What, was it a bad deal?
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« Reply #11275 on: March 18, 2024, 08:20:37 PM »
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #11276 on: March 18, 2024, 08:54:31 PM »
It's almost like they went with an insane fine that they knew not even a billionaire could afford because it's a political hit job.

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« Reply #11277 on: March 18, 2024, 11:25:56 PM »
It's almost like they went with an insane fine that they knew not even a billionaire could afford because it's a political hit job.
You'd think someone worth....*searches*

https://www.google.no/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/09/08/trump-overstated-net-worth-by-up-to-3point6-billion-per-year-ny-ag-alleges-in-new-filing.html?espv=1

$4.5 billion, per his claim, could cough up the money. 
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« Reply #11278 on: March 18, 2024, 11:35:54 PM »
I suspect Trump could get this money if he really wanted to, through multiple lenders, creative financing, etc. Even in the complaints from his lawyers they inadvertently describe some ways he could do it. But that is the wrong play here. If New York actually seizes his assets it will be shocking international news which would have the effect of turning Trump into a martyr.

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« Reply #11279 on: March 19, 2024, 12:18:30 AM »
I suspect Trump could get this money if he really wanted to, through multiple lenders, creative financing, etc. Even in the complaints from his lawyers they inadvertently describe some ways he could do it. But that is the wrong play here. If New York actually seizes his assets it will be shocking international news which would have the effect of turning Trump into a martyr.

Only to the sycophantic cult members though, and he's already been a martyr to them for years, so no big deal.
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