Well, I shan't hazard a guess as to their eternal destination. & I have no objection to Hasidic Jews per se, or any other variety of believing Jew, no matter where he is on the conservative-liberal scale. The militant atheist ethnic Jews get under my skin a bit, but that's another issue. Even the non-militant atheists don't bother me. But KJ... They take religion & just make it outright weird. If it were Christian, people would call it cultish, almost, but its not pc to use that word about Jews. To be honest, I'd much prefer that you non-Jews didn't. But as a Jew, I can say, they are weird. They even got in trouble a few years back for voting how their Rebbe (spiritual leader) told them to! That IS almost cultish. You shouldn't say it, perhaps, but I'm a Jew, & I'll call a spade a spade. They are creepy.