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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 16, 2021, 10:46:31 PM »
It should not need to be requested or expedited because it was supposed to have been released when the vaccine was licensed

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/scientists-sue-the-fda-for-data-it

You can’t say no, you can’t sue for harm, and you can’t see the data underlying the government’s claim that the product is safe and effective.

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Why has the FDA, weeks after the filing of a federal lawsuit, still not agreed to timely release this data?  Why does the FDA persist in delaying its release when even federal law states that, once licensed, the “data and information in the biological product file [for the licensed vaccine] are immediately available for public disclosure.” 

The lawyer states that according to federal law this information should have been released when the vaccine was licensed. The public should have access to the the safety data for the vaccines and drugs they are putting into to their bodies.

It is available to be disclosed and that disclosure process is underway.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 16, 2021, 08:57:04 PM »
Denial of the expediton request is an admission that they did not release it in the first place. They could have said:

- Here it is
- This request is invalid because it was already released, see xx

But this was not the answer. They imply with their answer that they have not released it. If they have not released it they are withholding it from the public.

There would be regulations if there was a "whole system" where the FDA waited until after drugs became approved and released before the public could see the safety data. Where are those regulations?

The regulations that the lawyers in the lawsuit found say that it was supposed to be released immediately. Written in black and white from the FDA itself. You have provided zero contradicting information, and only speculation, that there are alternate regulations which allow them to not release the safety data for the drugs and vaccines it approves. The evidence that you offer for your argument is "I have no idea". A real stunner of an argument from you. ::)

The FOIA request was made on Sept 9th and the followup lawsuit was made on Sept 16th. Five days ago on Oct 11th the group's lawyer said that the FDA has still neglected to provide the information and is delaying it -

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/scientists-sue-the-fda-for-data-it

Why has the FDA, weeks after the filing of a federal lawsuit, still not agreed to timely release this data?  Why does the FDA persist in delaying its release when even federal law states that, once licensed, the “data and information in the biological product file [for the licensed vaccine] are immediately available for public disclosure.” 

The materials are available for disclosure, it’s just not being expedited. Whats so hard to understand here?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 16, 2021, 04:15:51 PM »
Per the legal complaint, the FDA did not refuse to provide information, they refused to expedite the FOIA request. Massive difference there.

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How dare he not focus on the part of the experience you care about!

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It is illegal for a minor to solicit purchase of a firearm

It is illegal to purchase a firearm fir a minor

Except in some cases pertaining to hunting, it is illegal for a minor to possess a firearm

You are letting vernacular define the legal when it’s obvious that how Rittenhouse ended up with the firearm, if the facts of the case are true, is illegal.

I don’t think these are offenses that should land Rittenhouse in jail, mind you. I’d hope the traumatic events he has been through would be a sufficient enough deterrent but to engage in that type of behaviour anymore.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 14, 2021, 11:53:57 AM »
COVID may not kill many young people but it killed more American’s than anything else last month:

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/live-updates/covid-delta-surge/?id=80516253&__twitter_impression=true&s=09

Yet you have been shown numerous times that they are counting people who died "with" Covid and not of Covid, unlike previous diseases. Your argument is completely illegitimate.

People dying with COVID outnumber those dying with heart disease, with cancer and with gunshot wounds. Better?
Are you claiming we should be attempting to prevent death?

Is that your goal?

I don’t want anyone to die a premature, preventable death. Why do you ask?
Why? How the hell do you know it was premature? How do you know it was preventable?

You clearly understand where I’m coming from, it’s why you blame others for your family’s deaths instead of shrugging your shoulders.

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

True. So what about this:

It is a fact unvaxxed national guard will replace unvaxxed health care workers.

Where's your extraordinary evidence for your extraordinary claim?
I have posted that evidence.

There is ZERO evidence any virus is more easily spread in a hospital.

You are just another conspiracy theorist cosigning for a conspiracy theorist.

“More easily spread” isn’t necessarily the best way to frame it, but hospitals definitely concentrate a lot of vulnerable people together. This paper states hospitals acquired infections are a serious risk: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827479/
That paper is bullshit science, with no control group.

Much like that mask bullshit you believe in.

You keep posting bs, and then either don't retract it or just laugh it off.

Better evidence than a Jimmy Dore YouTube clip, to be sure.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 14, 2021, 11:35:42 AM »
COVID may not kill many young people but it killed more American’s than anything else last month:

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/live-updates/covid-delta-surge/?id=80516253&__twitter_impression=true&s=09

Yet you have been shown numerous times that they are counting people who died "with" Covid and not of Covid, unlike previous diseases. Your argument is completely illegitimate.

People dying with COVID outnumber those dying with heart disease, with cancer and with gunshot wounds. Better?
Are you claiming we should be attempting to prevent death?

Is that your goal?

I don’t want anyone to die a premature, preventable death. Why do you ask?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

True. So what about this:

It is a fact unvaxxed national guard will replace unvaxxed health care workers.

Where's your extraordinary evidence for your extraordinary claim?
I have posted that evidence.

There is ZERO evidence any virus is more easily spread in a hospital.

You are just another conspiracy theorist cosigning for a conspiracy theorist.

“More easily spread” isn’t necessarily the best way to frame it, but hospitals definitely concentrate a lot of vulnerable people together. This paper states hospitals acquired infections are a serious risk: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827479/

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Why is Shatner not floating about in a zero g environment? It takes absolutely no effort at all. The entire point of the freefall is to give that sensation. Why does Shatner not get involved in the very experience the flight is supposed to provide?

So no answers for my questions.

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I'd add the floating objects in the cabin all look CGI'd and why would you build a multi billion dollar rocket and fit it with a potato cam? 480p is the best camera they could afford? Give me one reason why I can't watch this in 4k on youtube. Youtube says 1080p, but there is no way the original is 1080p.

Perhaps it’s the internet bandwidth? Maybe your perception is just wrong?

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^ So the stunt actors are attached to harnesses and demonstrate the weightlessness. Meanwhile a 90 year old Shatner, too fragile to be dangled from a harness remains planted to his seat, but for a brief moment when he stands ... yes stands ... upright in a zero g environment.

Something smells.

Whats wrong with standing? Why are you assuming his feet are on the floor? Why are you inventing harnesses?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 14, 2021, 09:47:40 AM »
COVID may not kill many young people but it killed more American’s than anything else last month:

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/live-updates/covid-delta-surge/?id=80516253&__twitter_impression=true&s=09

Yet you have been shown numerous times that they are counting people who died "with" Covid and not of Covid, unlike previous diseases. Your argument is completely illegitimate.

People dying with COVID outnumber those dying with heart disease, with cancer and with gunshot wounds. Better?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 14, 2021, 02:59:48 AM »
COVID may not kill many young people but it killed more American’s than anything else last month:

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/live-updates/covid-delta-surge/?id=80516253&__twitter_impression=true&s=09

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 13, 2021, 06:52:11 PM »
Good lord.  Jimmy Dore may be the most loathsome person on Youtube.

Lauren Southern? Sargon of Akkad? And the insidious choice, Bret Weinstein?

Dore has something those others don't.  He's just repulsive on every level.  The sound of his voice, his ghoulish appearance.  I'm fairly certain he has an unpleasant stench about him too.  I imagine it's something oily and metallic.
I notice the only objection you have is the video was made by someone you find loathsome.

You have no objection to the facts in the video.

There are very few facts. Dore asserts for comedic effect that unvaxxed national guard will replace unvaxxed healthcare workers, but no one said they are sending unvaxxed national guard. As was pointed out, thousands of healthcare workers were vaxxed ahead of the deadline and no crisis has unfolded because of this.
It is a fact unvaxxed national guard will replace unvaxxed health care workers.

It's not.  It's a fact that there are unvaxxed national guard but there is no official policy that they will replace healthcare workers.

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It is also a fact that healthcare professionals are being fired during a health emergency.

Yes.  They should know better.  Hospitals are the most common place for the virus to spread and therefore the most important place to have vaccinated people.

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It is also a fact these healthcare staff were lauded as HEROES for providing care during the entirety of the prior 22 months.

The vast majority continue to be, as they did the intelligent thing and got vaccinated.

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It is also a fact you are part of the hypocrites that now cheer for their subjugation and submission of freedom-loving persons to an outright fascist power grab made by corrupt shitbags worldwide.

lol no

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 13, 2021, 06:26:01 PM »
Good lord.  Jimmy Dore may be the most loathsome person on Youtube.

Lauren Southern? Sargon of Akkad? And the insidious choice, Bret Weinstein?

Dore has something those others don't.  He's just repulsive on every level.  The sound of his voice, his ghoulish appearance.  I'm fairly certain he has an unpleasant stench about him too.  I imagine it's something oily and metallic.
I notice the only objection you have is the video was made by someone you find loathsome.

You have no objection to the facts in the video.

There are very few facts. Dore asserts for comedic effect that unvaxxed national guard will replace unvaxxed healthcare workers, but no one said they are sending unvaxxed national guard. As was pointed out, thousands of healthcare workers were vaxxed ahead of the deadline and no crisis has unfolded because of this.

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He was a cadet.  It's like a tac bro version of being a boyscout.
Fair.  But of which department?

Either way, it doesn’t matter. Lackey is correct he was there for his job as a lifeguard.

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^Has no response to facts.

No.  I don't want to clean up your digital mess is all.

Fact is, Kyle admitted to buying a firearm with stimulus money.  Since he was under 18, that is illegal in both WI and IL.  His 19 year old friend is charged with buying it for Kyle and transferring it to him.  Also illegal.  No help to you, I found out that he was likely storing the firearm at his step-father's house, which is where he left on the night in question.  So I incorrectly thought he took the weapon across state lines.  Obviously, crossing state lines is legal, no one said otherwise.

I STILL don't think it was smart of him to go out after the city-wide curfew with firearm to go help people but I do not think he was a murderer, I think he killed in self-defense.  You are trying to paint me as someone who thinks he is a lib-murderer, despite never having said so, and having explicitly said otherwise.  It's very strange.

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I think it was wise for that minor to report for work as he had always done, day-to-day, and, once he found out there was going to be trouble, ask to be given a firearm to protect himself and others.
Ask to be given a firearm?  From what I have read, he illegally purchased the firearm, months before.  If you have conflicting information, I would love to see it.
Wrong.
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Like I wrote earlier, you and others like you, keep promoting false narratives that he crossed state lines with a firearm and specifically for the purpose of killing "liberals."

I literally just said that I thought he killed in self-defense.  Don't let your hatred of me cloud your thinking.
Quit writing he brought the firearm with him from home or illegally purchased it.

Quit acting as if my hatred of you causes you to write demonstrable lies here and anywhere else you post.
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He lives about 20 miles away from Kenosha, WI, in a town called Antioch, IL.

So you agree he crossed state lines, you just think he didn't bring his firearm across state lines?
People in the United States are allowed to cross state lines.

He works in Wisconsin and he had been working in Wisconsin for some time.
"report to work"
If memory serves, he had no job, wasn't a volunteer police officer, and not requested to show up by any authority figure.  (And even if he was, again, state lines.  Jurisdiction is a thing.)



He was a cadet.  It's like a tac bro version of being a boyscout.
He was working in Wisconsin that day.

He was a lifeguard.
I'd love to respond, but I won't deal with your dumpster fire quote tags.


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I think it was wise for that minor to report for work as he had always done, day-to-day, and, once he found out there was going to be trouble, ask to be given a firearm to protect himself and others.

Ask to be given a firearm?  From what I have read, he illegally purchased the firearm, months before.  If you have conflicting information, I would love to see it.

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Like I wrote earlier, you and others like you, keep promoting false narratives that he crossed state lines with a firearm and specifically for the purpose of killing "liberals."

I literally just said that I thought he killed in self-defense.  Don't let your hatred of me cloud your thinking.

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He lives about 20 miles away from Kenosha, WI, in a town called Antioch, IL.

So you agree he crossed state lines, you just think he didn't bring his firearm across state lines?

"report to work"
If memory serves, he had no job, wasn't a volunteer police officer, and not requested to show up by any authority figure.  (And even if he was, again, state lines.  Jurisdiction is a thing.)



He was a cadet.  It's like a tac bro version of being a boyscout.

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Did...did he just reply to something over a year old?

Man, his mind just isn't what it used to be, is it?
My mind is aware the trial for Kyle Rittenhouse is commencing in November of 2021 and characters such as you are still attempting to frame the events on that day within a contextual argument that he should not have been there in the first place.

Which is just pure asshattery.

You think it was wise for a minor to cross state lines with rifle, going to a place where he was expecting trouble?

FWIW, I think he probably killed in self-defense but if I was Kyle’s parent I wouldn’t have permitted him to go.

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One can argue Kyle was foolish to bother going to Kenosha where it's dangerous.


Anyone arguing that Kyle was foolish for "going to Kenosha," simply isn't aware of the facts and would actually be the fool.

What are you waiting for?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
« on: October 11, 2021, 09:10:30 PM »

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men?dateId=id13407
I see nothing in here to contradict the fact that the UK is currently losing hard to the Dutch.
Congrats on beating a remote outpost with a population of 33,000. I don't think England would roll over as easily for you.

England is pretty famous for rolling over in international play, to be fair.

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