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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1780 on: November 15, 2016, 06:04:59 PM »
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/14/502018139/trump-advisors-mulling-whether-to-keep-fbi-director-james-comey

"I respect him alot." 
Well, at least now we know why James sent that memo: to help protect his job.

Uhh, Dave, agency directors have terms. Comey will have his job until 2024 regardless of who was elected.

President's can and have removed FBI Director's with cause and congress can also impeach them.

Which has no bearing on Comey since he's done nothing criminal. Comey can stick around as long as he wants and Hillary would have been stuck with a Republican majority Congress if she won, anyway.

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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1781 on: November 15, 2016, 09:03:11 PM »
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/14/502018139/trump-advisors-mulling-whether-to-keep-fbi-director-james-comey

"I respect him alot." 
Well, at least now we know why James sent that memo: to help protect his job.

Uhh, Dave, agency directors have terms. Comey will have his job until 2024 regardless of who was elected.

President's can and have removed FBI Director's with cause and congress can also impeach them.

Which has no bearing on Comey since he's done nothing criminal. Comey can stick around as long as he wants and Hillary would have been stuck with a Republican majority Congress if she won, anyway.

Comey could be protecting his ass against losing his job anyway.  We continue not to have the full picture of what made the FBI behave like they did throughout the Clinton affair and the election. 

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« Reply #1782 on: November 15, 2016, 09:10:12 PM »
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/14/502018139/trump-advisors-mulling-whether-to-keep-fbi-director-james-comey

"I respect him alot." 
Well, at least now we know why James sent that memo: to help protect his job.

Uhh, Dave, agency directors have terms. Comey will have his job until 2024 regardless of who was elected.

President's can and have removed FBI Director's with cause and congress can also impeach them.

Which has no bearing on Comey since he's done nothing criminal. Comey can stick around as long as he wants and Hillary would have been stuck with a Republican majority Congress if she won, anyway.

Comey could be protecting his ass against losing his job anyway.  We continue not to have the full picture of what made the FBI behave like they did throughout the Clinton affair and the election.
Yeah, for all we know, Trump will come in, find out he DID do something he shouldn't have that could be considered criminal, and get in trouble cause Obama would have let it slide.
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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1783 on: November 16, 2016, 12:16:42 AM »
Or maybe he wants to be Attorney General?

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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1784 on: November 16, 2016, 03:04:37 AM »

Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1785 on: November 16, 2016, 04:59:13 PM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413

The swamp-draining continues.

The swamp is draining. It just so happens that the drain leads right to 1600 Pennsylvania.

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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1786 on: November 16, 2016, 05:14:55 PM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413

The swamp-draining continues.

The swamp is draining. It just so happens that the drain leads right to 1600 Pennsylvania.

Trump explained this though:

Down there, all you have are lobbyists.  So what else can he do?
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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1787 on: November 16, 2016, 06:35:45 PM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413

The swamp-draining continues.

The swamp is draining. It just so happens that the drain leads right to 1600 Pennsylvania.

Trump explained this though:

Down there, all you have are lobbyists.  So what else can he do?

Probably should've thought of that before promising to drain the swamp. And, if the only choices he has are lobbyist, at least pick some qualified, intelligent lobbyists.

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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1788 on: November 16, 2016, 07:04:34 PM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413

The swamp-draining continues.

The swamp is draining. It just so happens that the drain leads right to 1600 Pennsylvania.

Trump explained this though:

Down there, all you have are lobbyists.  So what else can he do?

Probably should've thought of that before promising to drain the swamp. And, if the only choices he has are lobbyist, at least pick some qualified, intelligent lobbyists.
Especially ones who don't side with "the enemy" (aka muslims)
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/giuliani-foreign-clientele-possible-conflicts-231413
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« Reply #1789 on: November 16, 2016, 11:02:56 PM »
I'm still not sure why any of you thought that "draining the swamp" would mean not hiring professional politicians. I guess it's another one of those "Brexit means Brexit" scenarios where everyone gets to choose their favourite interpretation and then be outraged that it wasn't correct.

In other news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38003747

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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1790 on: November 17, 2016, 02:10:29 AM »
You see, by saying he will only take $1 as his salary, Trump is actually being evil. You better take that money!

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/donald-trump-salary-george-washington-214458

Just a few days ago, "haha people will spin Trump not taking his $400,000 salary as a bad thing" and now here we are, in the meme universe where a large political magazine is saying it's a bad thing. They even use they tried and true "if it's good enough for the framers, it should be good enough for you!" Thanks, Politico, I guess I'll come back to that if you ever complain about the second amendment or the Electoral College ever again.

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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1791 on: November 17, 2016, 03:58:08 AM »
I'm still not sure why any of you thought that "draining the swamp" would mean not hiring professional politicians. I guess it's another one of those "Brexit means Brexit" scenarios where everyone gets to choose their favourite interpretation and then be outraged that it wasn't correct.

In other news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38003747

Trump is such a badass he even went out without telling mom.

Meh, Trump made a very pointed effort to tell people he would not get in bed with the establishment.  I always knew that was BS and this is just my own version of "I told you so", but to the wrong crowd.  I have found this election to be extra frustrating because of it's peculiar blend of rhetoric, media hype and public hysteria.  My strategy to stay sane is to laud my rationalizations over anyone I can... Kinda immature ultimately, but better than buying in to the narrative in my books.

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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1792 on: November 17, 2016, 05:30:57 AM »
I'm still not sure why any of you thought that "draining the swamp" would mean not hiring professional politicians. I guess it's another one of those "Brexit means Brexit" scenarios where everyone gets to choose their favourite interpretation and then be outraged that it wasn't correct.

Nobody expected him to not work with politicians, only that he wouldn't be working with the same mainstream, business-as-usual, longtime Washington insiders that he spent so much of his campaign criticizing as corrupt and inefficient.  Many of them aren't even politicians, they're lobbyists.  And there's nobody on his team who's more demonstrative of its general swampiness than Giuliani.  He's spent the past fifteen years campaigning and enriching himself as a lobbyist and paid speaker, and his career has a very long history of alleged corruption, business deals with shady clients, and plenty of personal scandals.  Trump should be running a negative campaign against this guy, not considering him for Secretary of State.

Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1793 on: November 17, 2016, 05:37:46 AM »
if bernie were president-elect and made debbie w-s his chief of staff, i'd have some concerns
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« Reply #1794 on: November 17, 2016, 01:54:00 PM »
Nobody expected him to not work with politicians, only that he wouldn't be working with the same mainstream, business-as-usual, longtime Washington insiders that he spent so much of his campaign criticizing as corrupt and inefficient.
But why? I really strongly doubt you could make an argument that this is what he meant. He said he'd make government smaller, thus saving lotsa cash. Whether or not he'll do that remains to be seen, but the logic of "haha Giuliani QED!" just doesn't apply.
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« Reply #1795 on: November 17, 2016, 03:34:57 PM »
Mike Pence took over the transition team and the lobbyists were fired, and Chris Christie was demoted.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306309-pence-removes-lobbyists-from-trump-transition-team
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Re: 2016 US Presidential Race
« Reply #1796 on: November 17, 2016, 03:41:23 PM »
Mike Pence took over the transition team and the lobbiests were fired, and Chris Christie was demoted.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306309-pence-removes-lobbyists-from-trump-transition-team

Giuliani is still on the team.

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« Reply #1797 on: November 17, 2016, 03:47:18 PM »
Mike Pence took over the transition team and the lobbiests were fired, and Chris Christie was demoted.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306309-pence-removes-lobbyists-from-trump-transition-team

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Since Christie’s removal, many of his appointees on the team have also been dismissed, and the transition effort has been taken over by campaign loyalists.
Super.
At least they'll be loyal to Trump, keeping his self esteem from going down.[/quote]
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« Reply #1798 on: November 17, 2016, 05:59:21 PM »
Nobody expected him to not work with politicians, only that he wouldn't be working with the same mainstream, business-as-usual, longtime Washington insiders that he spent so much of his campaign criticizing as corrupt and inefficient.
But why? I really strongly doubt you could make an argument that this is what he meant. He said he'd make government smaller, thus saving lotsa cash. Whether or not he'll do that remains to be seen, but the logic of "haha Giuliani QED!" just doesn't apply.

if bernie were president-elect and made debbie w-s his chief of staff, i'd be like "wait wtf"

lol turn out i already said this exact thing like 12 hours ago.  whoopsy.
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« Reply #1799 on: November 17, 2016, 06:37:17 PM »
#pizzagate