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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 09, 2017, 10:03:50 AM »
Once again, Trump's administration confirms Obama and the Democrats were right.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-admin-charges-irs-actions-conservatives-49707991

So that's two "OMG this person should be in jail cause they're not Republicans!" Trump has basically let slide.  The first being Hillary Clinton.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Chemtrails
« on: September 08, 2017, 05:32:13 PM »
Ever since Trump got in office they have been pretty non existent where I live now. Before it was almost daily.

Right....
Commercial airlines?

And if he did stop such a terrible thing, why isn't he bragging about how Obama was poisoning you?

Sorry but you're either lying or there's another reason and you just don't know it.

Chemtrails have been going on long before Obama. It's actually quite nice to see the blue skies again.

Maybe he was actually able to do some draining of the swamp peoples, while cutting some budget expenditures?

If you didn't see chemtrails, you just aren't a very observant person. Lord knows they were everywhere.


I used to live newe Stewart Airport and Air National Guard base.  I saw contrails often.  Never chemtrails.

Probably because you're not educated enough to search the USPTO for them to know they exist. But TY for being you.


So secret chemicals sprayed from planes to do stuff to the population has a patent?

Dude your ignorance is showing. The process of nana particulates disbursed from aircraft has been around probably longer than you since you're acting no childish. These particulates are causing damage to crops, forests, humans and obviously brains. Good luck and good bowling !
Yes, cloud seeding, spraying pesticides, napalm, agent orange, fire fighting.... But we're talking about chem trails, not methods of spraying chemicals from airplanes.

OPEN book, nano particulates....
Gonna have to give context there.  Cause nano particulates is kinda vague.  Might as well say "nono particles"


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If anyone is close to an expert on vapor trails or contrails, I am. We all watched the movie "Topgun". Well I lived right on top of the nations topgun marine base "Fightertown USA", protecting the west coast of the US. I saw more hotshots and vapor trails than 99% of you. I know the difference.


What are your qualifications?  For being an expert.  I imagine chemistry, meteorology, avionics?


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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Chemtrails
« on: September 08, 2017, 03:05:06 PM »
Ever since Trump got in office they have been pretty non existent where I live now. Before it was almost daily.

Right....
Commercial airlines?

And if he did stop such a terrible thing, why isn't he bragging about how Obama was poisoning you?

Sorry but you're either lying or there's another reason and you just don't know it.

Chemtrails have been going on long before Obama. It's actually quite nice to see the blue skies again.

Maybe he was actually able to do some draining of the swamp peoples, while cutting some budget expenditures?

If you didn't see chemtrails, you just aren't a very observant person. Lord knows they were everywhere.


I used to live newe Stewart Airport and Air National Guard base.  I saw contrails often.  Never chemtrails.

Probably because you're not educated enough to search the USPTO for them to know they exist. But TY for being you.


So secret chemicals sprayed from planes to do stuff to the population has a patent?

Dude your ignorance is showing. The process of nana particulates disbursed from aircraft has been around probably longer than you since you're acting no childish. These particulates are causing damage to crops, forests, humans and obviously brains. Good luck and good bowling !
Yes, cloud seeding, spraying pesticides, napalm, agent orange, fire fighting.... But we're talking about chem trails, not methods of spraying chemicals from airplanes.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Chemtrails
« on: September 08, 2017, 02:54:49 PM »
Ever since Trump got in office they have been pretty non existent where I live now. Before it was almost daily.

Right....
Commercial airlines?

And if he did stop such a terrible thing, why isn't he bragging about how Obama was poisoning you?

Sorry but you're either lying or there's another reason and you just don't know it.

Chemtrails have been going on long before Obama. It's actually quite nice to see the blue skies again.

Maybe he was actually able to do some draining of the swamp peoples, while cutting some budget expenditures?

If you didn't see chemtrails, you just aren't a very observant person. Lord knows they were everywhere.


I used to live newe Stewart Airport and Air National Guard base.  I saw contrails often.  Never chemtrails.

Probably because you're not educated enough to search the USPTO for them to know they exist. But TY for being you.


So secret chemicals sprayed from planes to do stuff to the population has a patent?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 08, 2017, 10:32:11 AM »
Most corrupt son of a bitch in fucking politics!


http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/news/national/article_e3ab9868-2561-5c92-9465-5a3a2882b721.html

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The Trump family business doubled the initiation fee to $200,000 once it became clear that Mar-a-Lago would become the unofficial Winter White House,
Knew that but now I know it's TRUMP'S FAMILY that did it, not just an independent business they happen to own through subsidiaries.

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An AP investigation last year showed Trump received a $17 million insurance payment for Mar-a-Lago damage in 2005 after hurricanes Frances, Jeanne and Wilma hit in two years, but he said in an unrelated lawsuit deposition in 2007 that he didn't know how much was spent on repairs. He conceded to pocketing some of the money.
Senecal told the AP the roof lost some tiles and some trees were flattened. Town of Palm Beach records showed no permits were issued for major repairs during that period.
Here's the AP news article that didn't make it into the Mainstream Media. 

https://apnews.com/1fefeef4a4e84fa4af6441f4b6d221f0

Literal fucking insurance fraud!


I hope he loses the whole fucking place.  He won't, sadly, but god damn, I expect him to collect insurance money anyway.  Fund his fucking campaign.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Chemtrails
« on: September 08, 2017, 04:58:48 AM »
Ever since Trump got in office they have been pretty non existent where I live now. Before it was almost daily.

Right....
Commercial airlines?

And if he did stop such a terrible thing, why isn't he bragging about how Obama was poisoning you?

Sorry but you're either lying or there's another reason and you just don't know it.

Chemtrails have been going on long before Obama. It's actually quite nice to see the blue skies again.

Maybe he was actually able to do some draining of the swamp peoples, while cutting some budget expenditures?

If you didn't see chemtrails, you just aren't a very observant person. Lord knows they were everywhere.


I used to live newe Stewart Airport and Air National Guard base.  I saw contrails often.  Never chemtrails.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched
« on: September 07, 2017, 05:24:09 PM »
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season 4, Episodes 7-11)

So I finally decided to return to this series and man it's gotten good. I like this season's layout. Episodes 1-8 are one arc and storyline, 9-something are another, and then there'a a third arc for the last third (I'm not spoiling myself on when the second ends and the third starts). It seriously keeps the story from growing stale or feeling too dragged out and feels more like getting a few seasons of the show in a more condensed format. The LMD (Life Model Decoy arc so far (started with 9, I just finished 11) has been fantastic with the sense of paranoia and conniving it conveys is fantastic; I'm watching every character closely, speculating about their motivations, it feels like watching a really good spy thriller where you don't know who or what you can trust, but with characters you've come to know over the years. It's breathed some nice new life into this show for me. They're also just doing a really good job of avoiding character clichés. So yeah I'm excited to catch up finally.

Literally better Ultron than Ultron.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 07, 2017, 05:16:47 PM »
Ecch, just the usual empty rhetoric and parroting of GOP talking points from Tom. I guess I shouldn't expect anything better by now. :(

Someone broke into your house with their child and the robber was caught. Now you have the legal responsibility to take care of the child.

This burglar's son has dreams of college too. Have you saved up enough? Your kids can get college loans and pay them over the next 20 years. Just make sure the robber's son gets an education, because reasons.
Why are you constantly equating private areas with a country?

You should use a public area.

"A parent and a kid sneak into a school basket ball game.  When the dad tried to play too, he was escorted out.  The kid was allowed to stay."

"A burglar and his son broke into city hall because paperwork was a job so they figured they'd try it.  They were caught and the father went to jail.  The son, being a minor, was released without being charged."


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 07, 2017, 06:10:08 AM »
Also, shouldn't we be focusing on the bad hombres?  The gang members?  The dangerous people?


I mean, for every nice dreamer we deport, thats one criminal we can't deport because that dreamer has his seat on the bus/plane/train.  Then again, don't we incarcerate first, letting them stay in our prison until their sentence is up, then deporting them?  Or do we let them go home free men and women?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 06, 2017, 09:06:07 PM »
And think of this: we paid to educate them, shouldn't we get our money's worth?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 06, 2017, 06:33:48 PM »
Holy fuck!
Hell has frozen over!

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548935056/trump-sides-with-democrats-in-deal-on-storm-relief-and-fiscal-deadlines

Though the whole "fix it for only 3 months" is really for politics.  And hey, Conservatives are the ones who don't wanna raise the ceiling so 3 months vs 18 months should be good for them.  So maybe Trump is just being more Conservative than the Republicans?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: September 06, 2017, 08:23:12 AM »
The takeaway studios really need to get is:

If we wanted realism, we wouldn't be going to a Superhero movie.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 03, 2017, 12:05:06 PM »
In positive Trump News:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-trump-visits-harvey-victims-20170902-story.html

This is presidential.  Maybe if we cause a natural disaster every month, we can keep this Trump?

Flip side, NK keeps getting better with bombs.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/03/523913820/north-korea-possibly-conducts-sixth-nuclear-test-south-korea-says

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Chemtrails
« on: September 02, 2017, 08:52:52 PM »
Ever since Trump got in office they have been pretty non existent where I live now. Before it was almost daily.

Right....
Commercial airlines?

And if he did stop such a terrible thing, why isn't he bragging about how Obama was poisoning you?

Sorry but you're either lying or there's another reason and you just don't know it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republican Health Care Bill
« on: September 02, 2017, 04:15:18 AM »

There's distinct financial incentives for the hospitals, medical associations and physicians to make excessive testing the standard of care.  Ever wonder why you had to have an X-ray before an MRI even when the issue in question would never show up on X-ray? Insurance companies in the US are still regulated by state and federal agencies which include the responsibility to pay for "medically necessary" tests and interventions. Medical necessity is established by peer reviewed research the funding of which is regulated most heavily by the federal government. All of the for profit interest groups representing the pharmaceutical manufacturers, hospitals, DME suppliers etc all spend heavily to ensure that the fed declares their incentivized testing and treatment procedures as "medically necessary" then double down and sponsor researchers and medical school textbooks that essentially teach new physicians the same thing.

Ever wonder why it's ok for a physician to prescribe a medication off label (for a non FDA approved symptom or diagnosis) and not have it labeled as experimental procedure even though that's exactly what it is?
I have never wondered or experienced anything of what you described.


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I never said America wanted universal healthcare, merely that as a whole it would be healthier at a lower annual cost.
Nope.
It would cost more. Know why?  Because right now some people get no medical care.  When you add them in, costs go up.  Some negotiating will happen but largely, it'll be unchanged for a while.  Only after a generation, when most of the lingering medical problems are treated or being dealt with will the prices go down as people get treated sooner (and this avoid more expensive treatments later)


But the end cost is still gonna be higher.  Maybe not for individual services but overall.

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As to where our collective tax dollars are spent, perhaps we should ask politicians to justify unnecessary expenditures in much larger budgets before issuing a blanket statement that we can't afford a universal healthcare system.

Thank you,

CriticalThinker

Vet health care takes a big chunk of that defense budget.  Just fyi.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republican Health Care Bill
« on: September 01, 2017, 04:38:09 PM »
3 of which are possible for a lower cost in a single payer system.  In a single payer system everyone has insurance and all providers accept that insurance which makes coverage and access to providers more attainable.  Better access to pediatricians and birth control counseling can lower teen pregnancy rates.  In the US the states with abstinence only sex ed programs or, even worse, no sex ed programs have the highest rates of teen pregnancy.  Teens when educated on the proper use of contraceptives and family planning are able to significantly reduce teen pregnancy rates across socioeconomic strata.

Infant mortality, substance abuse and untreated mental health diseases are much more prevalent among the working poor in the US.  Those that cannot afford commercial health insurance or can't afford to use it in our current system.

Instead of asking who should pay for the $300+ bag of salt water, we should ask why any hospital is able to charge $300+ for a bag of salt water that cost them $1.  They do it to cover the costs of providing health care services to the uninsured or under-insured.  If everyone is ensured with one insurance company, they again have greater collective bargaining and we could even start to change the profit incentive for our healthcare system as a whole.

Right now we reward more tests and procedures not better outcomes.  If physicians were instead graded on markers of healthy life expectancy, instead of how many prescriptions they write out and how many blood draws they order, maybe we could get some bang for our buck.

Thank you,

CriticalThinker
But America doesn't WANT that.  They WANT "those people" to suffer or figure it out themselves.  It really isn't about what's better.  I mean, you always have trade-offs.  For profit system means faster services (usually).  But some are excluded.  Single payer means everyone gets health care but it's usually slower because they can't afford literally everyone to have great care at quick times.

And in America, a New Yorker would rather have care himself and NOT pay for some guy in Texas whose probably a Republican anyway.
And in Texas, those ranchers don't want their hard earned money going to free loading liberals in California who are just mooching anyway.

And we do not reward more tests and procedures.  We reward less tests and procedures and more paperwork.  Insurance companies want just enough tests to say "Yes, this is what's wrong, we don't have to pay for anything else" but not so many that they pay more than they need to.  It's a balancing game with paperwork at the focal point.  Justify why you need this test and we'll pay for it.... eventually.  Probably.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republican Health Care Bill
« on: September 01, 2017, 02:48:01 PM »
We are at a point where the only reasonable way for the government to rein in the rampant corruption in the medical industry is to join most of the rest of the civilized world and give its people universal healthcare.

"But Roundy, governments are so more corrupt than private companies so we'd only have higher medical costs and less services!"

That's not what has been demonstrated in all of the other wealthy industrialized nations of the world (flat or round).  Their governments are able to outperform us in total life expectancy and infant mortality for significantly less per capita expenditures.

Thank you,

CriticalThinker
Eh, yes and no.  Most of those countries have very different laws and social norms.
Like lawsuits.  Super common in the US, less so elsewhere so malpractice insurance isn't as bad, if at all.


Also, the companies have deals with drug makers.
And they also usually have fewer doctors.


Finally: America is 'Me First' and does not like thinking every American is worth helping.

One of the benefits of having a single payer system is collective bargaining power with pharmaceutical manufacturers.  It's no great secret that Medicare gets a better deal than a small regional health insurance.  Many of the lifestyle factors associated with total healthy life expectancy can be directly influenced by access to routine primary care which lowers the effects of malpractice claims.  Most malpractice claims boil down to informed consent and whether communication between provider and patient was accurately recorded.  In most cases, gross negligence is too hard to prove and documentation errors are used in lieu as evidence of "not meeting the accepted standards of care."  Infant mortality is the real tell tale factor that we should look at.  For a nation that doesn't have any wars on our soil, you would think that we would perform better than this.  50% higher than Canada & UK, 2-3x higher than many other European countries and just barely better than Slovakia.

Thank you,

CriticalThinker


Infant mortality has more than one cause.  Great medical care helps, lower drug use, post teen pregnancies, and medical insurance.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republican Health Care Bill
« on: September 01, 2017, 12:37:42 PM »
We are at a point where the only reasonable way for the government to rein in the rampant corruption in the medical industry is to join most of the rest of the civilized world and give its people universal healthcare.

"But Roundy, governments are so more corrupt than private companies so we'd only have higher medical costs and less services!"

That's not what has been demonstrated in all of the other wealthy industrialized nations of the world (flat or round).  Their governments are able to outperform us in total life expectancy and infant mortality for significantly less per capita expenditures.

Thank you,

CriticalThinker
Eh, yes and no.  Most of those countries have very different laws and social norms.
Like lawsuits.  Super common in the US, less so elsewhere so malpractice insurance isn't as bad, if at all.


Also, the companies have deals with drug makers.
And they also usually have fewer doctors.


Finally: America is 'Me First' and does not like thinking every American is worth helping.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republican Health Care Bill
« on: September 01, 2017, 06:53:35 AM »
We are at a point where the only reasonable way for the government to rein in the rampant corruption in the medical industry is to join most of the rest of the civilized world and give its people universal healthcare.

"But Roundy, governments are so more corrupt than private companies so we'd only have higher medical costs and less services!"

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 01, 2017, 05:01:58 AM »
http://www.avclub.com/furious-incorrect-trump-supporters-think-obama-was-pre-1798679764

Have I mentioned how fucking stupid Trump's supporters are? It really can't be overstated.


When you hate someone, it doesn't matter if they should be blamed or not, just that they are.


Also, ironic they'd attack Obama with golfing while praising the golf course president.




Also, good job Trump, if you follow through.
http://www.npr.org/2017/08/31/547658004/trump-promises-1-million-of-personal-funds-to-aid-harvey-victims


Though odd that they'd ask the fake news for research....

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