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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 06:39:43 AM »
Anyone watching the fist fifteen seconds of the video knows that he said "couldn't be won".
Then why did you not write that?  I just read what you wrote.  Never watched the video.

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I sense some denial here. Not to worry though, because you are in warm company with the liberal media.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wapo-scrambles-after-own-poll-accidentally-shows-trump-crushing-biden



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/abc-news-takes-down-video-gop-analyst-citing/



https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/111123274488248502


Considering how you spent the months of October, November, December of 2020 and January to March of 2021 saying how Trump won/will win/have the election overturned... I'm guessing you're an expert on denial.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by Tom Bishop on Today at 04:25:14 AM »
Anyone watching the fist fifteen seconds of the video knows that he said "couldn't be won".

I sense some denial here. Not to worry though, because you are in warm company with the liberal media.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wapo-scrambles-after-own-poll-accidentally-shows-trump-crushing-biden



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/abc-news-takes-down-video-gop-analyst-citing/



https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/111123274488248502

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« Last post by ichoosereality on Today at 04:17:06 AM »
Also imagine this ichoosenonsense clown telling construction workers and engineers that they need to do their jobs differently and get new tools because level doesn't mean straight, it means curved because the Earth is "round".
For projects where the deviation would make a difference, like the LIGO project they DO take it into account.  For smaller structures it not only would be difficult and expensive but would serve no purpose so they do not do so.
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« Last post by Realestfake on Today at 01:52:50 AM »

How globe-believing zealots measure the curve:



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Hey, if you’re unprepared for debating this why do you even bother? You’re not even making a point. It’s no wonder you’re on *that* side of the debate (:
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nothing To See Here (Maui)
« Last post by Dual1ty on September 24, 2023, 09:16:40 PM »
As is often the case with him, this is at best a huge distortion of what the governor actually was talking about.  Which was about ways to prevent developers from rushing in to take advantage of the local people.
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/maui-city-smart-project-state-lands-josh-green/

Yeah, they don't want to allow any free-market nonsense, do they? Gov. and club members only.

Previously the land owners and the people were resonsible for managing their land and now the government is. Thanks for "fact-checking" nothing.

Oh, I forgot the government stooges are the good guys and they no doubt want what's best for the people.
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nothing To See Here (Maui)
« Last post by ichoosereality on September 24, 2023, 09:09:54 PM »
... joe rogan experience video link removed ...
As is often the case with him, this is at best a huge distortion of what the governor actually was talking about.  Which was about ways to prevent developers from rushing in to take advantage of the local people.
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/maui-city-smart-project-state-lands-josh-green/
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nothing To See Here (Maui)
« Last post by Dual1ty on September 24, 2023, 11:00:23 AM »
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« Last post by juner on September 23, 2023, 05:12:22 PM »
i dont actually listen to youtube nerds. ill play ac69 after i play neverending fantasy 16 and possibly neverending fantasy 7 remake part 2.
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« Last post by honk on September 23, 2023, 04:36:57 PM »
I still don't agree with Crudblud, and I think he's being a bit pedantic in his last response to me, but I'm willing to let it lie rather than seem like I'm swooping in just to get the last word or whatever. Maybe one day I'll corner him on IRC and get a better chance to explain to him how objectively correct I am. Anyway, I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up Dunkey's review of the game. He's being awfully harsh on it. It's one thing to compare it to From's other titles as a starting point, but he returns to that point again and again seemingly as evidence of how bad the game is. Most games are far easier than Soulsbornes. Most games can be played with a minimum of focus once you have enough experience with the gameplay and familiarity with the levels. That doesn't make them bad. I guarantee you that the next Mario game that Dunkey raves about will be a lot easier than AC6. Anyway, if you just don't like what you see of the gameplay, that's fine, but if you'd otherwise be interested, don't let yourself be put off simply because Dunkey said that the game wasn't very good.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Any Dubay reconciliation possibilities?
« Last post by Dual1ty on September 23, 2023, 09:29:39 AM »
An issue is that the early version of the FE Wiki didn't have as much technical and background information about the terms it was throwing around and expected its readers to have a physics education. Without the background knowledge, people thought that TFES was just making up upwards acceleration randomly and making up terms. To the novice reader it just looked like technobabble.

Today people read the Wiki and don't have that reaction that Eric Dubey and the early Flat Earth Youtubers had. They now learn from its various pages that the equivalence principle is a substantial principle that has been tested in different physical ways by different testing methods in physics to tell us that gravity physically behaves as if the earth is accelerating upwards. They are satisfied with the claim of upwards acceleration and find it interesting.

The early nay-sayers will eventually see the error of their ways when they come back to re-read the material, as some have. It might take someone ten years to come back to it again, but slowly more FE'ers are coming to reject those early criticisms and see that TFES has some valid points to discuss.

If a FE'er reads all of the Wiki and still vigorously dismisses the possibility, it is frankly because they think the Bible said that the earth is motionless (which it did not, imo) and want to adhere to a biblical earth.

As far as I know, Dubay (not "Dubey") never claimed that it's motionless because the Bible said so. In reality it's only a small group of "biblical flat-Earthers" who claim that it's motionless because the Bible said so (and they also make other ridiculous claims such as a transparent tangible dome with water above, pillars that hold the Earth in place, etc.).

Certainly, that's not the case with me or anyone who talks about Etheric or electrostatic gravity. I don't even know if it's motionless or not, because saying that gravity is not caused by Earth's motion is not the same as saying that it absolutely is motionless.

It is known that magnetism acts much in the same way that gravity does (only magnetism is more "selective"). There is an obvious correlation between the two that rocketship-Earthers dismiss because they don't look into magnetism (it's a big pain in the butt for them :-\). Not the real magnetism research, which already proves that there's something more fundamental/metaphysical going on than just pure Newtonian physics or kinetics. In their view magnetism must be a force and yet it is not. In their view gravity must be a force (rocketship-Earthers claim that an unkown force is applied to the Earth by unknown means, even though they can't prove it and they acknowledge they can't prove it) and yet it is not. They also dismiss observable g variations and they refuse to do experiments themselves that confirm or deny said variations.

Oh, and by the way - there is now a new batch of rocketship-Earthers who claim gravity is the Earth moving, but they don't claim that it's accelerating upwards. That said, who knows what their claim is. I don't think they claim anything concrete - it's all just abstract speculation based on outdated Newtonian physics and kinetics and a bit of unicorn dust (dark energy, etc.) sprinkled on top to explain what powers the purported Earth's motion. Although this particular batch of rocketship-Earthers that I'm talking about never talks about what powers the purported Earth's motion. They just say that it moves because it must be moving (according to their limited understanding of physics and metaphysics that they impose on themselves).