why doesnt anyone (with a small amount of money) organize to fly a drone over the South pole, heading due south (for as long as it can fly) ?First off, it isn't a "small amount of money". Travel to the region could easily cost upwards of $40,000.
this would rest the lid on whether flat earth people are correct or not.
Pretty sure I literally just answered this here (http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4829.0). Granted, you have the right idea, circumference and AA is the way to go... but you're better off trying to find bigfoot. At least the USGov (and others) won't try to kill you, there...What evidence do you have (outside FE conspiracy ideas) the the USGov (and others) might try to kill you, there...?
Numerous private people have visited and trekked Antarctica to and beyond the South Pole itself. Others take the easy route! Quote High on the plateau, at the South Pole, however, the average wind speed is typically less than 14 km per hour, with the peak winds rarely over 40 km per hour.At times it can be clear, sunny and very chilly! As in the picture pn the right of tourists at the South Pole. | (http://i0.wp.com/farm9.staticflickr.com/8218/8255064757_680ca84813_z.jpg?zoom=1.5&resize=256%2C170) |
But he weather in Antarctica certainly suffers extremes! Quote The highest temperature ever recorded at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station was −12.3 °C (9.9 °F) on Christmas Day, 2011, and the lowest was −82.8 °C (−117.0 °F) on June 23, 1982. At times it is positively treacherous! On the right is Robert Scott and his expedition at the South Pole. He and all of his polar team died on their way back from the Pole in 1912! They were trapped by a blizzard till they ran out of fuel for heating. | (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Scottgroup.jpg/450px-Scottgroup.jpg) Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Nova_Expedition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Nova_Expedition) |
[sorry, i wrote this question in someone elses thread before realizing I could start my own thread]
Why doesnt anyone (with a small amount of money) organize to fly a drone plane over the South pole, heading due south (for as long as it can fly) ?
this would rest the lid on whether flat earth people are correct or not.
Surely its not much of an investment between some flat earth people who have some private funds.
its a drone, so there is no risk to human health.
and CCTV will record the entire thing ;)
PS: if anyone reads this and gets an idea, then PLEASE DONT USE FISH EYE LENS CAMERAS !!!! as it really distrots (bends) the horizon and important features.
if a group of similar minded people do this, then they could also do and fund a Rocket launch (maybe 70 miles high) to proove/disprove flat-earth.
and again, DONT USE A FISH EYE LENS!!!!
Go Pro cameras suck because they are not realistic. (they BEND and give a false horizon).
anyway,, so why doesnt anyone do the remote control drone plane over Antartica Due South ?
really.. that would be the icing on the cake !
such a simple idea.
Pretty sure I literally just answered this here (http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4829.0). Granted, you have the right idea, circumference and AA is the way to go... but you're better off trying to find bigfoot. At least the USGov (and others) won't try to kill you, there...
the USGov kills people attempting to get Antartica?You realise that anyone can make a website about virtually anything they want, and that "I saw it on the Internet!!!" is not an acceptable piece of evidence, right?
Well someone better tell this group http://www.marathontours.com/index.cfm?pid=10734
And this company http://www.expeditions.com/destinations/antarctica/
the USGov kills people attempting to get Antartica?You realise that anyone can make a website about virtually anything they want, and that "I saw it on the Internet!!!" is not an acceptable piece of evidence, right?
Well someone better tell this group http://www.marathontours.com/index.cfm?pid=10734
And this company http://www.expeditions.com/destinations/antarctica/
Hey, look, here's a website (http://arcticready.com/social/gallery). It's on the Internet, therefore all these Shell ads must be real!
You realise that anyone can make a website about virtually anything they want, and that "I saw it on the Internet!!!" is not an acceptable piece of evidence, right?
You realise that anyone can make a website about virtually anything they want, and that "I saw it on the Internet!!!" is not an acceptable piece of evidence, right?
Guess ya'll better quit sending us to the Wiki then.
Guess ya'll better quit sending us to the Wiki then.Please, at least get your y'alls right. You'll look ever so slightly less idiotic.
But hey they are in on the secret too, and that makes them liars. Got it. All Physicist, all surveyors, all pilots, all ship navigators and captains, all sailboat owners, all math and science teachers in every country on the planet. They are ALL in on it. Got it.Nah, you're just lying because you think people on the Internet will take you seriously if you do. You'll grow out of it in a few years.
Guess ya'll better quit sending us to the Wiki then.Please, at least get your y'alls right. You'll look ever so slightly less idiotic.
But no, you see, what matters about the Wiki is its content. It's not true because it's on the Internet. It's true because of the arguments it poses. The links "Round fact" provided us with state outright that certain groups exist - they do not posit any basis for an argument.
Nope FE Wiki has, on these boards been shredded, with math and geometry and science.lol
You on the other hand made a blanket statement about the links I posted without one shred of evidence that they are fake.I didn't say they're fake, I said they're worthless. They are of no value to the argument, since they provide no testable content. They merely state that things exist - whether or not they actually do is a completely separate matter.
Nope FE Wiki has, on these boards been shredded, with math and geometry and science.lolYou on the other hand made a blanket statement about the links I posted without one shred of evidence that they are fake.I didn't say they're fake, I said they're worthless. They are of no value to the argument, since they provide no testable content. They merely state that things exist - whether or not they actually do is a completely separate matter.
Nope FE Wiki has, on these boards been shredded, with math and geometry and science.lolYou on the other hand made a blanket statement about the links I posted without one shred of evidence that they are fake.I didn't say they're fake, I said they're worthless. They are of no value to the argument, since they provide no testable content. They merely state that things exist - whether or not they actually do is a completely separate matter.
There are ways to validate the voracity of a website. Snopes for one. Another is to Google Antartica Trip Scams. ZERO hits.So your idea to validate a website is to look for another website that confirms it. What's there to stop me from launching two websites? Do things become true once I wrote about them on two websites? No? How about three? A hundred?
There are ways to validate the voracity of a website. Snopes for one. Another is to Google Antartica Trip Scams. ZERO hits.So your idea to validate a website is to look for another website that confirms it. What's there to stop me from launching two websites? Do things become true once I wrote about them on two websites? No? How about three? A hundred?
Recommended reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
the ABSENCE of complaints about fake websites is not proof that links for booking trips to Antartica is real.Correct.
You understand you are not real. Someone has hacked your unreality to fake the unreal unyou online. So all your post are all unreal and unbelievable.Aaand now you're babbling. Congratuations!
Yet you believe FET Wiki. You need help.Are you capable of presenting an argument that isn't a fallacy?
the ABSENCE of complaints about fake websites is not proof that links for booking trips to Antartica is real.Correct.You understand you are not real. Someone has hacked your unreality to fake the unreal unyou online. So all your post are all unreal and unbelievable.Aaand now you're babbling. Congratuations!Yet you believe FET Wiki. You need help.Are you capable of presenting an argument that isn't a fallacy?
Are you capable of adding to the topic of discussion, instead of nitpicking semantics, making fun of people's spelling abilities, and just general trolling?the ABSENCE of complaints about fake websites is not proof that links for booking trips to Antartica is real.Correct.You understand you are not real. Someone has hacked your unreality to fake the unreal unyou online. So all your post are all unreal and unbelievable.Aaand now you're babbling. Congratuations!Yet you believe FET Wiki. You need help.Are you capable of presenting an argument that isn't a fallacy?
Of course I present good arguments or make sarcastic remarks about your cherry picked "proofs," I am a writer.Fantastic. What does your day job/hobby have to do with anything?
Your argument comes down to YOUR links are gold and everyone else's are at best unreliable.I said no such thing.
Wiki FE HAS been shredded. and your response is "LOL"lol
Online booking for lights from Sydney to Chile are declared fake.What? Whoever told you that was wrong.
And the fact that there are no online sites complaining about flight scams or Antartica trip scams are still not, in your La La Land, proof that such trips and flights are NOT scams?Correct. Just because something isn't on the Internet doesn't mean it's false. What on Earth made you think otherwise?
1. Online sites for booking Antartica Trips are scams, as anyone can build a website.I said no such thing.
2. The lack websites saying online booking of Antartica Trips are not proof that point 1 is false.Correct, see above.
3. You don't believe there would be an out cry over sites/organizations that promise a service but don't deliver. Me? If I wanted to run that Antarctic Half Marathon and saved up $12+ grand and couldn't get a booking, I be pissed off and start checking, then start talking to the media and posting every place I could. And I would NOT be alone, every runner I know would join me. It'd be all over the news in DAYS.Can you at least find some people who managed to make a booking? If not, how do you know anyone got scammed to begin with?
I understand, you need to believe even if it means ignoring all common sense and math and geometry and history and well everything that is real.I have yet to state my beliefs to you - please refrain from assuming, especially if you're trying to pull off the "I'm not a blind believer" argument.
3. You don't believe there would be an out cry over sites/organizations that promise a service but don't deliver. Me? If I wanted to run that Antarctic Half Marathon and saved up $12+ grand and couldn't get a booking, I be pissed off and start checking, then start talking to the media and posting every place I could. And I would NOT be alone, every runner I know would join me. It'd be all over the news in DAYS.Can you at least find some people who managed to make a booking? If not, how do you know anyone got scammed to begin with?
As a runner I know for a fact that the site for running full and half marathons on Antartica is real, because I know runners that have those taken part in those races.
Fair enough. How shall one prove it to YOU though?Simple, put it in the FE wiki or make a crappy utube video about with with lots of swearing. These seem to be valid proofs for fe believers.
anyway,, so why doesnt anyone do the remote control drone plane over Antartica Due South ?--- because it is impossible.
really.. that would be the icing on the cake !
such a simple idea.
anyway,, so why doesnt anyone do the remote control drone plane over Antartica Due South ?--- because it is impossible.
really.. that would be the icing on the cake !
such a simple idea.
Try to find a video of a remote contol drone plane flying over the south pole yourself. You will not find it because nobody has done it..... because it is impossible.... because it does not exist.
The true form of the earth is irrelevent.
I answered you in the other thread before seeing that you posted this as its own thread. My answer:why doesnt anyone (with a small amount of money) organize to fly a drone over the South pole, heading due south (for as long as it can fly) ?First off, it isn't a "small amount of money". Travel to the region could easily cost upwards of $40,000.
this would rest the lid on whether flat earth people are correct or not.
Second, while drones are allowed there are rules (http://www.adventure-network.com/files/attachments/ANI%20Guidance%20for%20use%20of%20UAV%20and%20similar%20systems.pdf), one of which is you must recover the craft. This means you would not be allowed to simply fly south until it dies, unless your machine has the range (both flight range and radio transmitter range) to actually cross to the other side of the continent (round earth assumption) for recovery. I don't think any drones can do that yet. (Another rule prevents flying over the pole itself, to prevent crashing there, but a flight nearby should satisfy the challenge.).
Third, even if such a flight were completed, with full HD video and a GPS track the whole way, the wiki itself says (http://wiki.tfes.org/FAQ) "In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence. It is too easily manipulated and altered....With this litany of problems, it's easy to see why photographic evidence is not to be trusted." If the video is likely to be rejected a priori, why should anybody (on either side) bother going to the effort and expense of shooting it in the first place?
And fourth, a reason that will sound harsh but I include for the sake of completing the list: of those people who even know there is a modern Flat Earth viewpoint, the vast majority believe it to be either fake (internet trolls pretending to believe) or folly. Very few outside this forum take the Flat Earth viewpoint seriously, certainly not to the level of spending time and money to prove it wrong. The rest of the world considers the matter settled by thousands of years, and if a modern person doesn't believe round earth already, one more piece of evidence is unlikely to change that.