[Rushy]

Since Biden has dropped out, it seems our election posting is getting spread out needlessly across multiple threads. I'm starting this new thread for every to post their endless opinions about who should be president and why it's Jeb Bush.

[Lord Dave]

At this point, I don't know.

Trump has his states.  Dems will vote blue regardless.  So it's all the independents.  I hope that the majority will side against Trump but I just do not know.

[Pete Svarrior]

Here's How Marco Rubio Can Still Win

[Rushy]

Here's how it's going to go.



https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2024-Electoral-Interactive-Map

[Lord Dave]

In fairness, the last time we had a woman candidate, she had great polls and failed.

Maybe this time she'll have bad polls and win?

[Rushy]

In fairness, the last time we had a woman candidate, she had great polls and failed.

Maybe this time she'll have bad polls and win?

Hillary almost certainly would have won had Comey not released his report mere days before the election. The polls didn't have time to adjust and the FBI made it sound like Hillary was quite literally about to go to jail, back when that sort of news mattered. Combined with record low dem turnout, it was a perfect storm of surprise-loss.

[Action80]

Once again, dumbocrats eschew the entire primary process and say, "Here is your candidate!"

Which party supports free and fair elections?

[Rushy]

Recent polling shows Kamala Harris closing the gap both nationally and in swing states with Trump still firmly in a narrow lead.

I believe this election is really going to come down to whoever wins Pennsylvania. Both of the post-Kamala-switcharoo polls put Trump at +2, well within the margin of error. If these polls don't change significantly, PA will be a big gray area up until the election. If Kamala manages to poll better in other swing states (such as Georgia or Florida), then PA won't matter as much, but for now, Georgia and Florida are firmly red, so much so that I can hardly call them swing states this year.

https://cdn.amgreatness.com/app/uploads/2024/07/PA-July-Toplines.pdf

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/july-2024-swing-state-polls-harris-trails-trump-in-arizona-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-tied-in-wisconsin/

[AATW]

Once again, dumbocrats eschew the entire primary process and say, "Here is your candidate!"

Which party supports free and fair elections?

The primary process is about picking delegates. Those delegates choose the nominee for president. If Biden drops out the delegates have to pick someone else.

So what are you actually talking about? Part of “free and fair” elections is the parties accepting the results after the election. Remind me which party failed to do that after the last one?

[Roundy]

It seems like the sneaky, underhanded kind of thing the Republicans would do to cheat, but in fact it's always been the rule. This whole process is completely by the book.

[Action80]

Once again, dumbocrats eschew the entire primary process and say, "Here is your candidate!"

Which party supports free and fair elections?

The primary process is about picking delegates. Those delegates choose the nominee for president. If Biden drops out the delegates have to pick someone else.

So what are you actually talking about? Part of “free and fair” elections is the parties accepting the results after the election. Remind me which party failed to do that after the last one?

What do you know? Someone outside of the US, with absolutely NO IDEA about elction law, butting in...

Color me surprised.

[garygreen]

instead of speaking in vague generalities, can you point to the specific laws or regulations that are being violated?

[AATW]

What do you know? Someone outside of the US, with absolutely NO IDEA about elction law, butting in...

Color me surprised.

You actually think that only someone in the US can learn about US election law and system? What kind of nonsense is that?
But OK, educate me then. What have I said that was incorrect? What election law have the Republicans broken?

[Rushy]

The DNC and RNC are corporations. There aren't any laws that require them to be democratic in their selection methods. The DNC and RNC can pick whoever they want, regardless of delegate votes. Their respective boards can always override something they don't personally like, it's just considered poor conduct to do so.

The vast majority of activities in the US election system are done so by force of tradition, not force of law. As an example, there's nothing at all stopping any given representative in the electoral college from voting differently than their state's constituents. Only in some states is that activity illegal, and even in those states, they can't undo the vote, they can only send the representative to prison afterwards. 

[honk]

The DNC and RNC are corporations. There aren't any laws that require them to be democratic in their selection methods. The DNC and RNC can pick whoever they want, regardless of delegate votes. Their respective boards can always override something they don't personally like, it's just considered poor conduct to do so.

I hope this means you're willing to admit that you were talking out of your ass when you said this just two weeks ago:

An important point to note in the American political system: stepping aside is not an option.

In order to get on the ballot for the election, a candidate must qualify for all 50 states and that process must be done individually. Yes, there are 50 different sets of laws that control how a person gets onto a ballot. Much of those laws require candidates apply quite early, which is why the American electoral season is so extravagantly long compared to virtually all other nations. If Biden were to "step aside", then the DNC would only be left with the handful of Literally Who candidates that bothered to try to compete with Biden for the nomination. It's just not possible to shoehorn in some other person (like Kamala). You would end up requesting voters write-in the name of the candidate. That would be disastrous.

The DNC is stuck with Biden, which is why they're responding to calls to eject him the way that they are. Biden is going to be the running candidate for the DNC and that's that.

[Rushy]

The DNC and RNC are corporations. There aren't any laws that require them to be democratic in their selection methods. The DNC and RNC can pick whoever they want, regardless of delegate votes. Their respective boards can always override something they don't personally like, it's just considered poor conduct to do so.

I hope this means you're willing to admit that you were talking out of your ass when you said this just two weeks ago:

An important point to note in the American political system: stepping aside is not an option.

In order to get on the ballot for the election, a candidate must qualify for all 50 states and that process must be done individually. Yes, there are 50 different sets of laws that control how a person gets onto a ballot. Much of those laws require candidates apply quite early, which is why the American electoral season is so extravagantly long compared to virtually all other nations. If Biden were to "step aside", then the DNC would only be left with the handful of Literally Who candidates that bothered to try to compete with Biden for the nomination. It's just not possible to shoehorn in some other person (like Kamala). You would end up requesting voters write-in the name of the candidate. That would be disastrous.

The DNC is stuck with Biden, which is why they're responding to calls to eject him the way that they are. Biden is going to be the running candidate for the DNC and that's that.

Note that I was talking about ballots here, which are beholden to state law. Kamala still has legal battles ahead of her, as states are already threatening to make it difficult for her to get on the ballot. These are all red states, so it doesn't matter, but the legal battle is there. While CNN will gladly state it's settled: https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/harris-ballot-legal-obstacles-48-states/index.html They had to sneak in the little "It’s impossible to say for certain whether a particular court in a particular state might rule that the state’s elections authority was wrong." to cover their ass.

Really, honk, is it that hard for you to differentiate between the government and political parties? One is public and one is private. Use your noggin.

[Lord Dave]

The DNC and RNC are corporations. There aren't any laws that require them to be democratic in their selection methods. The DNC and RNC can pick whoever they want, regardless of delegate votes. Their respective boards can always override something they don't personally like, it's just considered poor conduct to do so.

The vast majority of activities in the US election system are done so by force of tradition, not force of law. As an example, there's nothing at all stopping any given representative in the electoral college from voting differently than their state's constituents. Only in some states is that activity illegal, and even in those states, they can't undo the vote, they can only send the representative to prison afterwards.

There are, actually.  They have their own laws, which they can only change once every 4 years and only x time before the election.  I forget the months for the two.  I also believe it's an FEC regulation to have the rules set a fixed time before the next election.

[Action80]

I wonder: Did Camelface even file in any primaries to be placed on any ballot for president? It would be interesting to see all the required signatures.

Almost 180,000 signatures were needed to be gained (by state statute),  prior to the primaries held in each state, to even qualify to run.

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates

Saddam is typing with his rearbrain again...

[Tom Bishop]

This video about sums it up.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1818274592651157850

[AATW]

This video about sums it up.

She's managed to get this far in life without being a convicted of a felony, having to pay off a porn star or told to pay damages for rape.
So there's that.