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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: California WTF

« on: September 04, 2020, 12:05:06 PM »

"SB145 by state Sen. Scott Wiener, D-San Francisco, would remove automatic sex-offender registration for young adults who are convicted of having anal or oral sex with a minor, leaving the decision up to a judge. Newsom has until the end of September to act on the measure."

This idiot Wiener is also responsible for legislation that lowered the criminal penalty for knowingly transmitting HIV from a felony to a misdemeanor.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-bill-eliminating-sex-offender-list-15529263.php

This isn't about easing up laws on sex offenders, it's about making it equal.

Right now the law says that vaginal sex is up to a judges discretion, but anal or oral sex is an automatic sex-offender registration.

This bill is simply making all three sex acts equal under the law, as the oral/anal penalties were the results of laws passed to make gay sex among adults illegal.

It's removing extra penalties that ONLY apply to 'gay' sex acts.

Now that the law is going to be applied equally it will be easier to make changes, so if you think the laws need to be stricter, now's the time to push for it. But that's not what this particular bill is about, it's getting rid of old discriminatory policies.

If you want to change minor sex laws to be more strict, I don't think we would disagree.

Can you find some language in any of the existing laws to justify your position that judges currently have no discretion when it comes to needing to apply these supposedly more strict penalties when it comes to oral and anal sex? I already searched the codes and found this "10 years or more younger language," already exists.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Are the American police out of control?

« on: August 27, 2020, 12:43:14 PM »

Kenosha, WI

White police officer grabs unarmed black man by the shirt, and shoots him SEVEN times IN THE BACK while holding onto him, and with the victim's children in the adjacent car.

A few days later, a white 17-year old is permitted to mingle with protesters, open-carrying some sort of rifle, and police do nothing to stop him. He manages to shoot two or three people, some of whom are trying to stop him, others who identify him to the police as having shot people, yet the police let him go and he crosses the state line to go home to Illinois, before later being arrested....

Why should the police do something to stop a person who is not breaking any law and what were the people who got shot trying to stop him from doing?

The theme of this whole thread is that police seem to like stopping people who arent even breaking the law. And I would imagine the people who got shot were probably trying to stop him from shooting them..

Actually, the several instances brought up in this thread of police stopping people seem to be people who deserved to be stopped. George Floyd, seems he couldn't breath well before he was placed in the car. This latest guy in Kenosha had an active felony warrant for violence and was resisting police commands and trying to fight the police. How were these people trying to stop the guy from shooting them?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Are the American police out of control?

« on: August 27, 2020, 12:25:31 PM »

Kenosha, WI

White police officer grabs unarmed black man by the shirt, and shoots him SEVEN times IN THE BACK while holding onto him, and with the victim's children in the adjacent car.

A few days later, a white 17-year old is permitted to mingle with protesters, open-carrying some sort of rifle, and police do nothing to stop him. He manages to shoot two or three people, some of whom are trying to stop him, others who identify him to the police as having shot people, yet the police let him go and he crosses the state line to go home to Illinois, before later being arrested....

Why should the police do something to stop a person who is not breaking any law and what were the people who got shot trying to stop him from doing?

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Coronavirus Successfully Treated by Vitamin C

« on: August 21, 2020, 03:45:18 PM »

Well I'm old and take 1100 mg C, stay in hot hot sun while taking my Vit D 100% /100% zinc

What's Covid? Oh that mask sheet.

You do realize that taking these vitamins will help anyone generally stay healthy from any number of ailments and diseases. It’s not a magical cure for covid.

You're correct. Not a cure, but effective treatment.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: August 21, 2020, 03:43:02 PM »

Joe Biden draws a crowd in Delaware - https://streamable.com/pl5llr

Trump fans have to do something to distract themselves from the ongoing exposure of corruption and incompetence in his administration. Turns out cognitive dissonance is difficult to maintain when you pay attention to facts.

What ongoing exposure of what corruption?If you are referring to Steve Bannon, he isn't associated with the Trump Administration.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: August 21, 2020, 03:37:41 PM »

He has shown his ability to be a tyrant in his first few months in office when he separated children from their parents because their parents didn't have the right to be in the country - the children, on the other hand were innocent, and they were immorally oppressed by the POTUS.

To be more accurate, he separated some children from some people claiming to be the parents. Plus, adults who model illegal behavior should not do so in front of children.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: If Biden Dies?

« on: August 17, 2020, 03:45:29 PM »

I said no such thing.

I said there were no allegations by women, in the context of allegations of sexual abuse, and you know it.

What woman would lodge an allegation of sexual abuse/harassment against a noted homosexual?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Debunking the debunkers

« on: August 17, 2020, 11:57:06 AM »

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. You were able to point out a handful of claims which are tangentially related, but which are not actually represented by our strawman profiteering friend - that's why you had to rely on keyword matches. You're unwilling to back up your own claims, which is fair enough. Nonetheless, my position stands.

I think I backed my claims pretty well, an entire thread devoted to the moon landing being a hoax surely shows that it's an argument Flat Earthers use.

Not in regard to the earth being flat, correct?

Yes, in regards to a Flat Earth.  One of the common debunks to the Earth being flat is that we could SEE the Earth was round when we went to the Moon and it's a large body, not a small one. The equally common retort to that is the Moon landings were not real, a hoax.  So yes, it's an argument Flat Earthers use pretty commonly to argue that the world is flat.

It's very easy to find plenty of references to the Moon landings being a hoax.

Quotes from the TFES Wiki:

"You are the one making all of these fantastic claims. You are the one claiming that space ships exist, that the government can land man on the moon, send robots to mars, and that we can do all of these amazing never before done things. The burden is on you to prove these things. You are the one making the claim. The simplest explanation is that NASA really cannot do all of that stuff."

"Anyone who thinks that this landed and launched from the surface of the moon and that grown men lived in it with their space car is sadly deluded."

"NASA's early rocket research is well documented to have been a complete failure, plagued by one disaster after another. At some point, perhaps after the Apollo 1 disaster, it was decided to fake the space program outright and use rockets which only needed to fly into the air until they disappeared from sight. NASA went from nearly every launch being a failure to a near flawless track record, able to land man on the moon multiple times without error, and with only two public spectacles of failure in 45 years."

I don't get it.

How does an argument against the moon landings being legitimate equal an argument for or against the particular form or shape of the earth?

The statements you quote from the Wiki make no mention of the form or shape of the earth.

Are you making some kind of fantastical connection where none exists?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Debunking the debunkers

« on: August 17, 2020, 11:08:03 AM »

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. You were able to point out a handful of claims which are tangentially related, but which are not actually represented by our strawman profiteering friend - that's why you had to rely on keyword matches. You're unwilling to back up your own claims, which is fair enough. Nonetheless, my position stands.

I think I backed my claims pretty well, an entire thread devoted to the moon landing being a hoax surely shows that it's an argument Flat Earthers use.

Not in regard to the earth being flat, correct?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: August 12, 2020, 11:14:43 AM »

It looks to me like the democrats have given up this year. Biden is a waste of space.

Their campaign is a negative one. It isn't vote for Biden. It is vote against Trump. Those types of campaigns fail to bring out base support because the base isn't enthusiastic about its own candidate. I can't see the dems winning ... thank god.

And Kamala Harris ... congratulations on being a black woman. Its the only qualification required to be Biden's VP. You are the token box ticker who is purely there because the Dems are obsessed with race, sex and victimhood.

She is also an Attorney General.

"News broke on Tuesday that Kamala Harris was ending her run for president. While there are a number of reasons her candidacy was not successful, chief among them was her decision to brand herself a “progressive prosecutor.” She was not, at least not by today’s standards."
https://theappeal.org/kamala-harris-criminal-justice-record-killed-her-presidential-run/
Doesn't seem to be a worthwhile record.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: August 12, 2020, 11:10:08 AM »

Do you have evidence that police brutality has gone unpunished ...

Yes, but you'll have to be patient. Not going to post it all at once.

It seems you are missing the point.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: August 11, 2020, 03:03:32 PM »

If you can show an actual court conviction, I'll agree with you that the police man was probably bad.

The point of the protests, in large part, is protest against police brutality which goes unpunished.

Do you have evidence that police brutality has gone unpunished or is this a case where punishment does not match what you think it should?