Anyone who went to 5th grade in any country knows that its not possible for the earth to be a globe!
All the so called scientists have never proven the speed of our "spinning ball! that we live upside down in some parts of the earth, distance to the sun, size of the sun! that there is gravity!
this is the sma scenario as the king who wore nothing and believed he was in a great suit until the kid spoke out! Why are people so afraid of change!
The shperical earth has no proof! people just got punished for saying flat and that was it! woof.. We had our spinning ball! no one wants to listen objectively!
Simple question! ARE YOU SITTING UPSIDE ON A SPINNING BALL?? Just lay down on your lawn and take a look up! for once trust your eyes! when science fails , u are to rely on your intuition
woof...
Nice intro, you are most welcome.
I agree, earth is flat. Your move roundlings.
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/FE%20Ice%20Wall%20Map%20-%20co-ords_zpssfzmbeef.jpg) FE Ice Wall Map | (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Flat%20Earth%20Bi-polar%20map%20-%201272_zpsfub8glzp.png) FE Bipolar Map |
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/1892-new-standard-map-Australia_zpsbjox1mgg.png) Australia on Gleason's Map | (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Bi-polar%20map%20-%20Australia_zpspi45amfu.png) Bi-polar map - Australia | (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Australia%20on%20Google%20Earth_zpsy1w9phhs.png) Australia on Google Earth |
Measurement | Gleason's | Garmin Nav | ||
West-East 30° Lat | 8,700 km | 3,700 km | ||
Cape Yk-Wils Prom | 3,200 km | 3,200 km |
You see the air is stable so the speed must increase when you travel to high altitude. But then the gravity decreases and the centrifugal force increases. So atm must distributed to space. There is no way out for globe earth.
Nice income. Wellcome.
It is more hard to explain the movement of the atmospher. You see the air is stable so the speed must increase when you travel to high altitude. But then the gravity decreases and the centrifugal force increases. So atm must distributed to space. There is no way out for globe earth.
somebody has to protect their gain defendin the earth is a globe.
somebody has to protect their gain defendin the earth is a globe.
Rabinoz, let's try to keep this thread a bit more focused on atrugeek4u's specific questions. If you want to counter his point that there is no proof for a globe earth, just provide links to the relevant threads. As good as it is, you don't need to post your entire presentation on the shape of Australia in every single thread.
Rabinoz, let's try to keep this thread a bit more focused on atrugeek4u's specific questions. If you want to counter his point that there is no proof for a globe earth, just provide links to the relevant threads. As good as it is, you don't need to post your entire presentation on the shape of Australia in every single thread.
Seconded.
OK, I was actually replying toRabinoz, let's try to keep this thread a bit more focused on atrugeek4u's specific questions. If you want to counter his point that there is no proof for a globe earth, just provide links to the relevant threads. As good as it is, you don't need to post your entire presentation on the shape of Australia in every single thread.Seconded.
Nice intro, you are most welcome.There are little problems of time zones and things that sometimes prevent speedy replies. I suppose I not only do I have to walk around on the ceiling, I should really synchronise with your time. Theses are just the difficulties one faces when living "down under". :) I guess all that would change if I believed in a Flat Earth. :)
I agree, earth is flat. Your move roundlings.
Anyone who went to 5th grade in any country knows that its not possible for the earth to be a globe!It's so easy for someone to say "Anyone who went to 5th grade in any country knows that its not possible for the earth to be a globe!", but not so easy to counter that in few words.
All the so called scientists have never proven the speed of our "spinning ball! that we live upside down in some parts of the earth, distance to the sun, size of the sun!That is rubbish! Around the end of the nineteenth century the "Marine Gyroscopic-Compass" was invented to find true North, rather than Magnetic North, as in various forms is still widely used. "Marine Gyroscopic-Compass" relies on the earth's rotation to work. "Gyro-theodolites", also relying entirely on the earth's rotation are used in mines and tunnels.
that there is gravity!Really! But there is no way to answer this in one or two words!
this is the sma(wot) scenario as the king who wore nothing and believed he was in a great suit until the kid spoke out! Why are people so afraid of change! The shperical earth has no proof! people just got punished for saying flat and that was it! woof.. We had our spinning ball! no one wants to listen objectively!No, I really think you need to look closely at what you are wearing (on get an innocent child to tell you).
The Magisterium Rules: The Debate is Over – In 1820, Pope Pius VII decreed that there are “no obstacles” nor “any difficulties” for Catholics to hold that the earth moves. Two years later, the Holy Office even decreed that there would be canonical punishments for any Roman censor who refused to allow publication of books supporting the motion of the earth. - See more at: Prepare for the Fringe Geocentric People (http://www.catholicconvert.com/blog/2014/07/18/prepare-for-the-fringe-geocentric-people-catholics-claiming-the-earth-is-the-motionless-center-of-the-universe/#sthash.yamRUVzJ.dpuf)
Simple question! ARE YOU SITTING UPSIDE ON A SPINNING BALL?? Just lay down on your lawn and take a look up! for once trust your eyes! when science fails , u are to rely on your intuitionFirst impressions are not always the right ones. And in any case there are numerous things that you can observe just by taking careful note of your surroundings.
when science fails , u are to rely on your intuition
Nice intro, you are most welcome.
I agree, earth is flat. Your move roundlings.
Who am I to argue?"Thus spake Dr David Thork!"Yes, I know! It looks round and that's about it[1].
Mind you there do seem numerous things that simply do not fit the Flat Earth model proposed:
- Sunrises and sunset are in completely the wrong directions - especially in the Southern Hemisphere summers.
- The sun and moon stay the same size from rising to setting. They simply cannot do that with the model and explanations given!
- While Venus and Mercury do transit the sun, no other planet can - why?
- When Venus and Mercury are at their largest apparent sizes they appear in the sky near the sun (During the day or very close to sunrise or sunset.
When all the other planets are at their largest apparent sizes they appear in the sky at their furthest from the sun (during the night).- The sun and moon go from being completely hidden to a full disk in about TWO minutes. No Flat Earth explanation comes near to explaining this.
- The dimensions and sizes of Southern Hemisphere countries (on the UniPolar map) are grossly in error! See detail below.
- "The Wiki" explains the Coriolis effect as "Wind Currents, The Wind Currents are put into gradual motion by the attraction of the Northern and Southern Celestial Systems, which are grinding against each other as gears at the equator line."
This is rubbish as Coriolis causes anticlockwise motion of LOWS and clockwise motion of HIGHS in the Northern Hemisphere - how could this "grinding against each other as gears at the equator line" cause different directions of rotation?
These are just a few off the top of my head, but for me what caps it all is that the shape (dimensions) simply do not fit on a flat surface!
This thread gives my take on this: Measurements of the Earth Prove it cannot be Flat « on: May 05, 2016, 09:05:22 AM » (http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4979.msg96293#msg96293).
In addition no map proposed as a "Flat Earth" map comes close to having correct shapes of continents and distances. The discrepancies are not small, but simply massive. For example (shown on the maps below) the West to East width of Australia is roughly 8,700 km on the "Ice-Wall" map when it should be about 3,700 km.We are not fiddlng at the edges here. These Flat Earth maps are simply wrong!
These two seem to be the ones proposed as "Flat Earth" maps:On that "Ice Wall" map Australia looks like it does on the "Gleason's" map below, but I KNOW that Australia looks nothing like it is shown on the "Ice Wall" map, it DOES look as shown on the "Google" map. Yes, I live here, I have driven over and measured many of the distances here.
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/FE%20Ice%20Wall%20Map%20-%20co-ords_zpssfzmbeef.jpg)
FE Ice Wall Map (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Flat%20Earth%20Bi-polar%20map%20-%201272_zpsfub8glzp.png)
FE Bipolar Map
The so-called "Bi-Polar" map on the right above (which is no more than another Equidistant Azimuthal Projection of THE GLOBE, but centred on 0° S, 0° N) has far worse distortion! Just look at the shape of Australia in the middle below - it is just ridiculous!
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/1892-new-standard-map-Australia_zpsbjox1mgg.png) Australia on Gleason's Map (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Bi-polar%20map%20-%20Australia_zpspi45amfu.png)Bi-polar map - Australia(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Australia%20on%20Google%20Earth_zpsy1w9phhs.png) Australia on Google EarthI can assure you the FE map (yes Gleason's is exactly the same shape as the "UN" map) distances are nothing like reality. Also, the dimensions of Australia on the Google Earth match all good maps I have found, and are quite consistent with my own measurements. And NO, I have no walked, ridden a bicycle or even driven exactly along that route! But, I has been from right on the East coast to the extreme West coast three time, including diagonally through the centre and back across the Nullarbor.
MeasurementGleason's Garmin Nav West-East 30° Lat8,700 km 3,700 km Cape Yk-Wils Prom3,200 km 3,200 km So over to you! Come up with a realistic map, answer these problems without guesses, massively bendy light and unrealistic perspective and maybe things might be different.
[1] Everything else that I have seen seems to be simply a failure to understand the Heliocentric Globe!
Errors & Omissions Expected (but nothing like as many as in the Flat Earth model(s) proposed).
Nice intro, you are most welcome.
I agree, earth is flat. Your move roundlings.
Anyone who went to 5th grade in any country knows that its not possible for the earth to be a globe! All the so called scientists have never proven the speed of our "spinning ball! that we live upside down in some parts of the earth, distance to the sun, size of the sun! that there is gravity! this is the sma scenario as the king who wore nothing and believed he was in a great suit until the kid spoke out! Why are people so afraid of change! The shperical earth has no proof! people just got punished for saying flat and that was it! woof.. We had our spinning ball! no one wants to listen objectively!
Simple question! ARE YOU SITTING UPSIDE ON A SPINNING BALL?? Just lay down on your lawn and take a look up! for once trust your eyes! when science fails , u are to rely on your intuition
Anyone who went to 5th grade in any country knows that its not possible for the earth to be a globe! All the so called scientists have never proven the speed of our "spinning ball! that we live upside down in some parts of the earth, distance to the sun, size of the sun! that there is gravity! this is the sma scenario as the king who wore nothing and believed he was in a great suit until the kid spoke out! Why are people so afraid of change! The shperical earth has no proof! people just got punished for saying flat and that was it! woof.. We had our spinning ball! no one wants to listen objectively!
Simple question! ARE YOU SITTING UPSIDE ON A SPINNING BALL?? Just lay down on your lawn and take a look up! for once trust your eyes! when science fails , u are to rely on your intuition
I spent all night looking for it and finally fell asleep on the lawn!
I woke up and then I realised ...
I'm in the southern hemisphere !! Those damn websites are all designed for the 88% of the population that live in the northern hemisphere ...
Damn have to remember I'm one of the 12% lol ... I'm one of the upside down people that has feet growing out of their head so we can don't have to walk on our hands....
On a more serious note... all FE'ers should travel down here... once you have lived north AND south of the equator there is absolutely NO WAY you can believe in a flat earth...