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Title: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 06:05:27 AM
As I mentioned, Saddam's journey (plight) inspired me to throw a build together. I got the rest of my hardware in today and put it together tonight. It boots and picks up all drives, so I will throw an OS or two on it tomorrow. In hindsight, the video card was a bit overkill. Overall, it was an enjoyable build. Wire management took several times longer than the actual assembly of the hardware.

PARTS:

(http://i.imgur.com/gLLXS7Z.jpg)







BUILD:

(http://i.imgur.com/xiyEK1l.jpg)
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2015, 06:12:48 AM
Wow takes a real dick to buy a computer to rub Saddam's nose in the fact he is an idiot
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 06:15:23 AM
Wow takes a real dick to buy a computer to rub Saddam's nose in the fact he is an idiot

 >:( That wasn't the intent at all. I've built many computers, but it has been a while. Saddam's thread just made me want to give it a go again.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: xasop on February 19, 2015, 07:05:41 AM
Aww yeah, AMD graphics. You should be all set to install OpenBSD on that baby. Since you have an optical drive, why not buy it on CD-ROM and support the project (https://www.openbsdstore.com/cgi-bin/live/ecommerce.pl?site=shop_openbsdeurope_dollar&state=item&dept_id=01&sub_dept_id=01&product_id=CD56)?
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Fortuna on February 19, 2015, 10:11:20 AM
>AMD graphics
>AMD CPU

I hope your smoke detectors work.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Lord Dave on February 19, 2015, 10:21:25 AM
>AMD graphics
>AMD CPU

I hope your smoke detectors work.
<--- has AMD CPU, south bridge, and GPU.  Working great since 2009.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Thork on February 19, 2015, 11:07:12 AM
OpenBSD ... buy it on CD-ROM and support the project?
Why not buy Windows 8.1 and support their project? Your raging idealism has yet again caused hypocrisy in your reasoning.

@Junker - why the enormous case? You used one slot for your graphics card and almost all your drive bays appear empty. But you have given house room to a hulking great box that could easily be a computer from the 1990s. Yes, you'll claim you have room for expansion ... but you won't expand. You'll build another computer. I'll bet the psw has been bought with 'expansion' in mind and is throwing our 850W of heat as well. ::)
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 01:54:17 PM
Aww yeah, AMD graphics. You should be all set to install OpenBSD on that baby. Since you have an optical drive, why not buy it on CD-ROM and support the project (https://www.openbsdstore.com/cgi-bin/live/ecommerce.pl?site=shop_openbsdeurope_dollar&state=item&dept_id=01&sub_dept_id=01&product_id=CD56)?
I don't care for disc media, but I will donate $20 because why not. I put the the optical drive in for when I give it to someone else, since many people use them still.

>AMD graphics
>AMD CPU

I hope your smoke detectors work.
The Intel 5960X I sold to fund this build has the same TDP, so that is irrelevant. The difference between the AMD and Nvidia card I was looking at was negligble.

OpenBSD ... buy it on CD-ROM and support the project?
Why not buy Windows 8.1 and support their project? Your raging idealism has yet again caused hypocrisy in your reasoning.

@Junker - why the enormous case? You used one slot for your graphics card and almost all your drive bays appear empty. But you have given house room to a hulking great box that could easily be a computer from the 1990s. Yes, you'll claim you have room for expansion ... but you won't expand. You'll build another computer. I'll bet the psw has been bought with 'expansion' in mind and is throwing our 850W of heat as well. ::)

The plan is to install both OpenBSD and Windows. The case was a little bigger than I wanted, but it was the best priced Lian Li that had the features I wanted. The only thing I use the extra room for is wire management since I didn't get a modular PSU. I don't have any intention to expand. I don't have a real use for this computer at all.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: beardo on February 19, 2015, 02:06:03 PM
I don't have any intention to expand. I don't have a real use for this computer at all.
So basically you could have sent the money you spent on it to me instead and fund my whisky purchases.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 02:07:04 PM

I don't have any intention to expand. I don't have a real use for this computer at all.
So basically you could have sent the money you spent on it to me instead and fund my whisky purchases.

Yes, I could have.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: beardo on February 19, 2015, 02:15:37 PM
You should have.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Rushy on February 19, 2015, 02:24:27 PM
The Intel 5960X I sold to fund this build has the same TDP, so that is irrelevant. The difference between the AMD and Nvidia card I was looking at was negligble.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to put a 5960X in their desktop, anyway.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 02:29:20 PM

The Intel 5960X I sold to fund this build has the same TDP, so that is irrelevant. The difference between the AMD and Nvidia card I was looking at was negligble.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to put a 5960X in their desktop, anyway.

Because some people loving the bleeding edge. I got it for free so I figured it would be better to build a functional system rather than hang on to a CPU I wouldn't build a system out of anyway.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Rushy on February 19, 2015, 02:39:27 PM
Because some people loving the bleeding edge. I got it for free so I figured it would be better to build a functional system rather than hang on to a CPU I wouldn't build a system out of anyway.

From what I've seen of benchmarks, the extreme series of processors always do worse on any graphics heavy applications. I've only ever seen them be better at CPU heavy functions and even then they were only marginally better (~5%) than the i7 k series that cost half the amount. Most applications don't even know what to do with eight cores.

Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2015, 04:10:11 PM
i do need a new computer

ship this one to me when you"re done with it and ill even pay for postage>
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 04:33:06 PM
i do need a new computer

ship this one to me when you"re done with it and ill even pay for postage>

I'll consider it.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: beardo on February 19, 2015, 04:34:27 PM
No, send it to me so I can sell it and get money for whisky
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 04:35:50 PM
No, send it to me so I can sell it and get money for whisky

No.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: beardo on February 19, 2015, 04:36:54 PM
Why are you denying me whisky?  :(
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Rushy on February 19, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
It's not a real PC build if you don't have a legendary heatsink.

(http://i.imgur.com/cavi35j.jpg)
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2015, 04:43:57 PM
I'll also buy it if you wanna let it go for a very low price. Now I'm done shitting up this thread , just keep it in mind
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 04:44:01 PM
It's not a real PC build if you don't have a legendary heatsink.

I agree. If it was a PC I was keeping for myself I would have used something other than the HSF that came with the proc.

Also, there is a fair amount of room in there, and openings between the motherboard tray and chassis. Get on that wire management, you could make them nearly disappear.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Rushy on February 19, 2015, 04:46:13 PM
Get on that wire management, you could make them nearly disappear.

The big bundle of colorful wires makes the computer faster.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 04:56:51 PM
I decided I am going to get a better processor. I got the 6 core for this build. Going to get one of the 8-core models. I didn't see their 220W 8-core until now, that is a bit ridiculous. I will probably get one of the 125W models.

Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 05:02:46 PM
I helped! I assisted in making the wires look pretty.

It would have been a hot mess of wires without your help.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Rushy on February 19, 2015, 05:24:00 PM
I decided I am going to get a better processor. I got the 6 core for this build. Going to get one of the 8-core models. I didn't see their 220W 8-core until now, that is a bit ridiculous. I will probably get one of the 125W models.

You see that video card in my computer? It's TDP is 700W. Step up your game.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 05:31:53 PM
I decided I am going to get a better processor. I got the 6 core for this build. Going to get one of the 8-core models. I didn't see their 220W 8-core until now, that is a bit ridiculous. I will probably get one of the 125W models.

You see that video card in my computer? It's TDP is 700W. Step up your game.

I will when I build a computer for my own use.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: beardo on February 19, 2015, 05:35:13 PM
watch out, badass, etc.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Rushy on February 19, 2015, 05:36:09 PM
I will when I build a computer for my own use.

I don't believe you.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 05:42:58 PM
I will when I build a computer for my own use.

I don't believe you.

I suppose I can just get another 5960X, throw in a couple GTX 980's, 64GB of the fastest DDR4 I can find. Along with a PCIe flash-based drive and have a monster super epic mega gaming computer that I won't use.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2015, 05:44:14 PM
How much did the parts cost you.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 05:46:00 PM
How much did the parts cost you.

About $750.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Shane on February 19, 2015, 05:54:40 PM
How much would it cost to build a good PC for my needs. Like surfing the webs and listening to music and watching movies, and would it be worth it to build a PC rather than just buy a laptop?
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 05:57:00 PM
How much would it cost to build a good PC for my needs. Like surfing the webs and listening to music and watching movies, and would it be worth it to build a PC rather than just buy a laptop?

You can build something for under $500 that would do that adequately. Finding a laptop that isn't a piece of garbage around that price will be nearly impossible.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: beardo on February 19, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
How much would it cost to build a good PC for my needs. Like surfing the webs and listening to music and watching movies, and would it be worth it to build a PC rather than just buy a laptop?
>not playing tons of games
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: Rushy on February 19, 2015, 06:06:49 PM
You can build something for under $500 that would do that adequately. Finding a laptop that isn't a piece of garbage around that price will be nearly impossible.

Finding a new laptop, yeah, but buying a used one off Ebay or some other site can be super cheap. You'd be amazed at the amount of people who do very... strange things. I bought my Surface Pro from a mom that said "bought this for my son, he didn't like it and said he wanted a mac." Wasn't even opened.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: xasop on February 19, 2015, 06:32:47 PM
How much would it cost to build a good PC for my needs. Like surfing the webs and listening to music and watching movies, and would it be worth it to build a PC rather than just buy a laptop?

You can build something for under $500 that would do that adequately. Finding a laptop that isn't a piece of garbage around that price will be nearly impossible.

Uh, no. My ThinkPad X201 (Core i5 560M, 4 GiB RAM, in a convenient 12-inch form factor) cost me under $300 on eBay. I replaced its HDD with an SSD, so overall it cost a bit more, but that's optional. Finding a decent cheap laptop is dead easy.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 19, 2015, 06:36:57 PM
I suppose we will all have different opinions of what a good laptop is.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: xasop on February 19, 2015, 06:38:24 PM
I suppose we will all have different opinions of what a good laptop is.

I am assessing "good" based on Sean's description of what he wants to do, which is less intensive than my own use case. I recompile OpenBSD on a regular basis on my X201, which it is very fast at doing, although it does get a bit hot in the process.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 20, 2015, 06:34:43 AM
I am successfully posting from the OpenBSD 5.6 install I did on this new PC. I will set it up for a dual boot in the coming days.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: xasop on February 20, 2015, 07:48:24 AM
I am successfully posting from the OpenBSD 5.6 install I did on this new PC. I will set it up for a dual boot in the coming days.

You really want to install OpenBSD as the second OS in a dual-boot setup. You can shoehorn a dual boot onto it with a different OS later, it's just more annoying and error-prone. I recommend reading this (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting) and making sure you understand it before attempting a dual boot; the OpenBSD/amd64 boot process is very simple and straightforward (or as simple and straightforward as amd64 gets), but understanding how it works is important for being able to integrate it into some other bootloader.
Title: Re: PC Build
Post by: juner on February 20, 2015, 03:56:54 PM
I am successfully posting from the OpenBSD 5.6 install I did on this new PC. I will set it up for a dual boot in the coming days.

You really want to install OpenBSD as the second OS in a dual-boot setup. You can shoehorn a dual boot onto it with a different OS later, it's just more annoying and error-prone. I recommend reading this (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting) and making sure you understand it before attempting a dual boot; the OpenBSD/amd64 boot process is very simple and straightforward (or as simple and straightforward as amd64 gets), but understanding how it works is important for being able to integrate it into some other bootloader.

Yes, I read through that yesterday. I wanted to better understand navigating BSD only before I setup dual boot. So, I will purge everything, install Windows, then OpenBSD.