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Psychology Today on Trollin'
« on: September 20, 2014, 06:32:42 PM »
Psychology Today has released an article on internet trolls. They are claiming that all internet trolls are narcissists, psychopaths, and sadists. (Yes I found this on reddit, yes shut up).

Here's an excerpt from the article:

Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

What kind of person would do this?

Canadian researchers decided to find out. They conducted two internet studies with over 1,200 people. They gave personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the Dark Tetrad of personality: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadistic personality.


"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]

Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article):

"Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!"


Here's some sort of graph or something:



I find it hard to believe that we're all evil sadists, but that's just me.

Is psychology today trolling us? I don't even know how they gathered most of this data, and the verbiage used in the article seems questionable. Regardless, do you agree with these accusations?
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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2014, 06:45:48 PM »
Scientists poll trolls and expect accurate results?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2014, 06:58:20 PM »
I don't think any of us here are real trolls though. We like a good debate and being dicks once in awhile, but message anyone one on one and they'll be genuine and normal.

I encountered what I would call a true troll on tumblr once. They bombarded me with terrible photos and even made a fake account dedicated to harassing me. It almost verged on stalker behavior when they went so far as to get me fired by digging up shit I said about an old boss, putting together where I worked, and emailing it to said boss. I deleted that tumblr and was done with it but that was a sadist.

Maybe this study is going off the more rare definition of someone who really harasses online rather than someone who just posts off-topic responses and starts arguments. At least that's how I interpret it.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2014, 07:14:57 PM »
I don't think any of us here are real trolls though. We like a good debate and being dicks once in awhile, but message anyone one on one and they'll be genuine and normal.

I encountered what I would call a true troll on tumblr once. They bombarded me with terrible photos and even made a fake account dedicated to harassing me. It almost verged on stalker behavior when they went so far as to get me fired by digging up shit I said about an old boss, putting together where I worked, and emailing it to said boss. I deleted that tumblr and was done with it but that was a sadist.

Maybe this study is going off the more rare definition of someone who really harasses online rather than someone who just posts off-topic responses and starts arguments. At least that's how I interpret it.

I've met one person like that as well, and experienced a similar thing. They're terrible people (worse than Thork). But this article seems to be pointing the finger at anyone who joins a group with the intentions of derailing, arguing, or insulting the participants.

I still have my doubts about whether this is a genuine article. It seems really far-fetched, especially when considering what Lord Dave said. If they truly gathered these results there's no way of knowing if the polls themselves were trolled, and apparently the people behind the studies are too retarted to figure this out.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2014, 07:17:35 PM »
narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadistic personality.
This proves that I am not a troll.

They're terrible people (worse than Thork).
Seriously? Wtf is that about?  :-\

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 07:53:19 PM »
Good thing there aren't any trolls in TFES.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2014, 08:28:59 PM »
Good thing there aren't any trolls in TFES.

Sure there are. Have you met some of these globularists? They've gotta be either trolls or NASA spies. They can't be serious.
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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2014, 11:04:24 PM »
Sure there are. Have you met some of these globularists? They've gotta be either trolls or NASA spies. They can't be serious.

I said in TFES. Roundies aren't in TFES, now are they? Maybe they crawl around the site, but I wouldn't consider them part of the society.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2014, 11:05:56 PM »
You have to take the troll poll before you can get into this boy's soul.
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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2014, 12:14:25 AM »
Good thing there aren't any trolls in TFES.

Sure there are. Have you met some of these Aerheric Wind Theorists? They've gotta be either trolls or NASA spies. They can't be serious.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2014, 12:23:33 AM »
Good thing there aren't any trolls in TFES.

Sure there are. Have you met some of these Aerheric Wind Theorists? They've gotta be either trolls or NASA spies. They can't be serious.

ftfy

Aetheric wind is a naturally occurring phenomenon that has been confirmed by science. Your disinformation campaign is getting tiring, Rama Set.
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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2014, 12:47:14 AM »
Good thing there aren't any trolls in TFES.

Sure there are. Have you met some of these Aerheric Wind Theorists? They've gotta be either trolls or NASA spies. They can't be serious.

ftfy

Aetheric wind is a naturally occurring phenomenon that has been confirmed by science. Your disinformation campaign is getting tiring, Rama Set.

Thank you for your confirmation.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2014, 03:37:05 AM »
You have to take the troll poll before you can get into this boy's soul.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2014, 07:55:10 PM »
Here's an excerpt from the article:

Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

Here's some sort of graph or something:




How can they have that quote in it, have such an exaggerated graph, and not think they're being trolled?
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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2014, 08:07:41 PM »
Even if they were trolled, wouldn't it still apply?

If trolls troll the study then it's proof enough that they're trolls, right? Or am I confusing myself?

Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2014, 08:39:01 PM »
Trolls trolling a professional survey about trolls would fit sadism wouldn't it? I mean, their intention would be to make the publication look stupid, which in turn confirms the trolling survey to be correct even if trolled.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2014, 08:44:20 PM »
We're using the term "sadism" pretty loosely here, I see.
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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2014, 09:01:33 PM »
We're using the term "sadism" pretty loosely here, I see.
Right, which is why initially I would think they mean legitimate harrassment rather than people who just derail discussions.

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Re: Psychology Today on Trollin'
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2014, 09:11:49 PM »
We're using the term "sadism" pretty loosely here, I see.
Right, which is why initially I would think they mean legitimate harrassment rather than people who just derail discussions.

"An internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation."

Sounds like they're talking specifically about people who derail discussions.
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