We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 03, 2015, 05:40:29 PMWe have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?
Quote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 06:24:32 AMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 03, 2015, 05:40:29 PMWe have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 01:34:52 PMQuote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 06:24:32 AMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 03, 2015, 05:40:29 PMWe have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.Diagram please with observed measurements.
Quote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 04:02:01 PMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 01:34:52 PMQuote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 06:24:32 AMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 03, 2015, 05:40:29 PMWe have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.Diagram please with observed measurements. Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?
If you can't demonstrate it, then you shouldn't believe it.
Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 04:45:31 PMQuote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 04:02:01 PMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 01:34:52 PMQuote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 06:24:32 AMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 03, 2015, 05:40:29 PMWe have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.Diagram please with observed measurements. Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?If the sun is above me what will the angle be at 4 positions 1000 miles away from me, each at 90, 180, 270 and 360 degrees?
Quote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 07:27:26 PMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 04:45:31 PMQuote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 04:02:01 PMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 01:34:52 PMQuote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 06:24:32 AMQuote from: Tom Bishop on June 03, 2015, 05:40:29 PMWe have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.Diagram please with observed measurements. Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?If the sun is above me what will the angle be at 4 positions 1000 miles away from me, each at 90, 180, 270 and 360 degrees?I don't know. I have not measured that. I can only be in one place at a time.
That proves your claim is invalid if you cannot prove it. What would you predict it to be?
Quote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 09:59:26 PMThat proves your claim is invalid if you cannot prove it. What would you predict it to be?The idea that the sun is descending by perspective is an interpretation of its descent, just like the idea that the earth is round and spinning is an interpretation of its descent. Which scientist measured the position and descent of the sun and proved it to be the cause of a round world?
Hi everyone. !st of all i'd like to intruduce my self. I come from Poland and I am 32 years old. I do study the theory since a while but still got a few not answered questions. Like for example, what is happening with the sun after it disappears behind the horizon? If the earth is relaly flat we should see the sun all the time if it is a glowing ball no metter the distance. There should be less light but i dont have an explanation for the sunset. In some parts of the world the sun at the sunset is really big. Enlight me someone please.
Excelsior:...You are clearly a reasonable and intelligent person.
Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PMQuote from: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 09:59:26 PMThat proves your claim is invalid if you cannot prove it. What would you predict it to be?The idea that the sun is descending by perspective is an interpretation of its descent, just like the idea that the earth is round and spinning is an interpretation of its descent. Which scientist measured the position and descent of the sun and proved it to be the cause of a round world?How can a sun set cause the world to be round?