The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Community => Topic started by: Dionysios on January 13, 2018, 09:37:27 PM
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Forgive me if this is not in the correct category. I thought it important to get the word out.
We’re having a Flat Earth meet-up at the Red Lion Hotel in Salem, Oregon (I-5, exit 256) on Saturday 27 January 2018 from 12 noon to 5pm.
We’ll be in the Jefferson Centre room #1 located by the rear parking lot. It’s their biggest room - carpeted with elegant round banquet tables. We’ll have free information packets with lady greeters at the door and free and unlimited coffee, tea, soft drinks, and water for the first 50 folks from 12noon to 4pm.
The hotel is within walking distance of multiple places to eat and inexpensive lodging.
The hostess and organiser is Mrs. Carolyn, and I’ll be giving two talks on the history of the Flat Earth movement (ancient & modern). We have a projector, screen, sound system, and a cordless microphone. Tentatively, Chief Crow and the Flat Earthworms from Portland will be performing, and we’ll have time for passing the mic to everyone for introductions and plenty of time for questions, open discussion, and socialising.
And by the way, it’s free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SXUfn8tno
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Forgive me if this is not in the correct category. I thought it important to get the word out.
We’re having a Flat Earth meet-up at the Red Lion Hotel in Salem, Oregon (I-5, exit 256) on Saturday 27 January 2018 from 12 noon to 5pm.
We’ll be in the Jefferson Centre room #1 located by the rear parking lot. It’s their biggest room - carpeted with elegant round banquet tables. We’ll have free information packets with lady greeters at the door and free and unlimited coffee, tea, soft drinks, and water for the first 50 folks from 12noon to 4pm.
The hotel is within walking distance of multiple places to eat and inexpensive lodging.
The hostess and organiser is Mrs. Carolyn, and I’ll be giving two talks on the history of the Flat Earth movement (ancient & modern). We have a projector, screen, sound system, and a cordless microphone. Tentatively, Chief Crow and the Flat Earthworms from Portland will be performing, and we’ll have time for passing the mic to everyone for introductions and plenty of time for questions, open discussion, and socialising.
And by the way, it’s free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SXUfn8tno
I'm seriously considering it. Are globe-tards like me welcome?
Mind you, we've never spoken, but I've adopted that term. Not trying to put words in your mouth or anything.
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I'm seriously considering it. Are globe-tards like me welcome?
Yes, of course. Just be civilised and fit right in.
The main point of this meetup is not to convert people or vice-versa. Most people coming to this already know the Earth is flat and the basic stuff. There will be some first timers for sure, but for a lot of us this meetup has two purposes:
1) put out some info (especially historical) that will fill in a lot of blanks for a lot of Flat Earth believers.
2) provide an opprtunity for the FE community in Oregon to meet together, network, etc.
Based on what Mark Sargent told me from his own experience, I’m expecting perhaps 50 people that will be enthusiastic about meeting with similar minded folks and definitely not looking to be judged (his words).
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I'm seriously considering it. Are globe-tards like me welcome?
Yes, of course. Just be civilised and fit right in.
The main point of this meetup is not to convert people or vice-versa. Most people coming to this already know the Earth is flat and the basic stuff. There will be some first timers for sure, but for a lot of us this meetup has two purposes:
1) put out some info (especially historical) that will fill in a lot of blanks for a lot of Flat Earth believers.
2) provide an opprtunity for the FE community in Oregon to meet together, network, etc.
Based on what Mark Sargent told me from his own experience, I’m expecting perhaps 50 people that will be enthusiastic about meeting with similar minded folks and definitely not looking to be judged (his words).
Should I be wary about being thrown out if people start getting irritated with me for making too much sense?
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Should I be wary about being thrown out if people start getting irritated with me for making too much sense?
I don't think you have anything to worry about.
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Should I be wary about being thrown out if people start getting irritated with me for making too much sense?
I don't think you have anything to worry about.
idk, if the internet is any indication, I might get banned for daring to insist on sound reason and evidence.
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Should I be wary about being thrown out if people start getting irritated with me for making too much sense?
I don't think you have anything to worry about.
idk, if the internet is any indication, I might get banned for daring to insist on sound reason and evidence.
Keep your shitposting out of the upper fora. Warned.
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Me and a friend are resolved to go. Is anyone else going as well? Just curious who I might expect to run into.
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Hey y'all. I know this wasn't my event, but for anyone here who went, I just wanted to offer my encouragement.
I'm a skeptic, granted, but everyone I spoke to was open-minded and willing to have conversation. Even if we disagreed at times, sometimes passionately, I got the sense that both sides remembered that we were both there because we care about what's true.
I feel like some of the sincerity gets lost in translation over a cold, expressionless forum, where tone of voice and facial expression are absent. I feel like people are less willing to accuse you of being dishonest, or dismissing the conversation, when they're speaking to someone who can demonstrate their sincerity live, in person.
I don't agree with the flat earth model, but if you guys can maintain the level of civility and honest, open dialogue that I personally encountered in the four or five conversations I had there, I think we'll come to a consensus sooner or later.
That's all. If anyone else here was there, I'd be interested to get your take on things.
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Just checking, but did anyone here go to the event? How was it?
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I'm seriously considering it. Are globe-tards like me welcome?
Yes, of course. Just be civilised and fit right in.
The main point of this meetup is not to convert people or vice-versa. Most people coming to this already know the Earth is flat and the basic stuff. There will be some first timers for sure, but for a lot of us this meetup has two purposes:
1) put out some info (especially historical) that will fill in a lot of blanks for a lot of Flat Earth believers.
2) provide an opprtunity for the FE community in Oregon to meet together, network, etc.
Based on what Mark Sargent told me from his own experience, I’m expecting perhaps 50 people that will be enthusiastic about meeting with similar minded folks and definitely not looking to be judged (his words).
Is there any interest in these meetings for some simple geometry?
I have devised a test I believe can disprove either the flat earth or the globe earth theories. It can't prove any of them, but may disprove one.
If interested in seeing it, hit me up on twitter @kjellwilliams and I will tweet or email you the basic schematics.
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The historical presentation from the meetup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ZOrzTNjYQ
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That was a good presentation. I do find that these forums have value and disagree that they are a waste of time. It is tedious, but the conversations here do help refine our arguments, and do recruit others into the movement.
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That was a good presentation. I do find that these forums have value and disagree that they are a waste of time. It is tedious, but the conversations here do help refine our arguments, and do recruit others into the movement.
Thanks.
I have indeed noticed a bit of this phenomenon in both forums over the years. Iron sharpens iron. And I think you’ll find that I made a distinction in this forum’s favor as much more the hospitable.
I think I can say with confidence that if only a fraction of the users on Daniel’s forum had been like Tom Bishop, then my admittedly negative opinions would have been fundamentally different.
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I jumped in at 10 mins, and he's whining about non-FE being mean to FE.
My experience is exactly the reverse of this, particularly on YouTube. The profanity, anger and hostility ALWAYS emanates from the flattie, the "natural science" proponent, the one who tells you it's a "globe lie".
That and the over-enthusiastic use of YouTube's blocking facility to hide the comments of those who disagree with them.
Gods, he's tediously slow and laboured.
Would anyone be willing to summarise the salient points, and indicate where in the video these are made?
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Would anyone be willing to summarise the salient points, and indicate where in the video these are made?
The table of contents of Robert Schadewald’s book serve as an outline to roughly the first half of the talk which cover the history of the Flat Earth movement from 1819 to the death of Charles Johnson in 2001.
https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages/index.html
After that, the history of the movement over the past 20 years.
Finally, the last 10 to 15 minutes discuss ancient Flat Earth history:
1) outline of ancient Flat Earth cosmologies in various countries
2) growth of late pagan sphericism and triumph of early Christian Flat earthism
3) Islam’s revival of Greek sciences including sphericism & subsequent historical spread of sphericism
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So .. it's essentially a summary of historical works, with no new information, and no actual field work or research by the speaker?
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So .. it's essentially a summary of historical works, with no new information, and no actual field work or research by the speaker?
Do you actually understand the purpose of the thread? If you have nothing to add, then refrain from posting. Warned.
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Do you actually understand the purpose of the thread? If you have nothing to add, then refrain from posting. Warned.
How can asking a supplementary question for clarity be held up as "nothing to add" ... ? ???
The original purpose of the thread was merely an advert, surely?
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How can asking a supplementary question for clarity be held up as "nothing to add" ... ? ???
The original purpose of the thread was merely an advert, surely?
You first post was lazy and low-effort saying that all you heard was whining and can someone summarize. Maybe take the time to watch the video if you are actually interested and stop asking others to do it for you.
I am not sure what you think it is an advertisement for, but you clearly do not understand the thread. If you are going to post, try to contribute and keep it on topic.