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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2015, 04:07:36 AM »
Just build a computer. I've built about 7. How hard can it be?

The hardest bit is ordering the right stuff. Putting it together is easier than lego. Worst case scenario, see a system you like, buy all the parts they say are in it, and put them together yourself.

Just post your parts before you buy. If there is anything incompatible or dumb, someone will let you know.

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2015, 05:36:30 AM »
Sorry, Thork, but I promised myself when I made this thread that I was going to ignore every word you said.  It's for the best.

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2015, 07:42:46 AM »
Don't forget to connect the CPU power cable to the motherboard, Saddam.
lol, I forgot about that. I should remember it more often when Parsifal is telling me I don't know anything about computers.

Is there something wrong with that statement?
Parsifal forgot to do it when he was building his computer, which gave him pause for... like 2 hours, I think? Let's say I'm wrong and assume it was a couple of days. In any case, Thork seems to think that someone fucking up once is somehow comparable to his consistent incompetence.
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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2015, 01:13:54 PM »
Don't forget to connect the CPU power cable to the motherboard, Saddam.
lol, I forgot about that. I should remember it more often when Parsifal is telling me I don't know anything about computers.

Is there something wrong with that statement?
Parsifal forgot to do it when he was building his computer, which gave him pause for... like 2 hours, I think? Let's say I'm wrong and assume it was a couple of days. In any case, Thork seems to think that someone fucking up once is somehow comparable to his consistent incompetence.
No, you are wrong, as usual. The point is I told him to plug his CPU in, despite being depicted as a 94 year old cavewoman in technical terms.

Sorry, Thork, but I promised myself when I made this thread that I was going to ignore every word you said.  It's for the best.
Seems odd. Building computers is something I know a lot about. Just because I know sod all about servers and web management doesn't mean I have no expertise in any IT field at all. PizaaPlanet and Parsfial seem to think that serverside coding is the preserve of IT gods and that anyone who doesn't specialise in this must know nothing about computers.
Being as I used to be a pro-coder and have developed apps for iOS, Android and Windows Mobile that clients pay upwards of £30k a time for, plus all kinds of web based projects in javascript and jquery too, it can't be I'm computer illiterate. But they seem to have some snobbery around the whole bearded Linux and serverside dull crap that they are good at.
I'm also better than anyone I have ever met at VBA and that's before I start thinking of all the engineering programs I have coded in when I was again a paid engineer. My CV lists 19 languages I have done projects in - I'm self taught and I only have one IT qualification to my name ... and you know what that is for? Building fucking computers! >o<
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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2015, 02:54:56 PM »
Another thread tries to metamorphose in to a Thork thread.

Saddam Hussein

Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2015, 03:05:55 PM »
In any case, I've already ordered and paid for all the parts.  The total amount of money I spent was probably somewhere around nine hundred dollars.
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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2015, 03:26:28 PM »
In any case, I've already ordered and paid for all the parts.  The total amount of money I spent was probably somewhere around nine hundred dollars.
Sounds exciting. The best bit is always when you line up all the shiny boxes and then open the first one. :D

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2015, 03:47:28 PM »
Which case did you pick?
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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2015, 03:50:00 PM »
I just ordered everything on the first row of the "Great" tier.  In the case of the...case, it was this:

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2015, 03:57:51 PM »
I just ordered everything on the first row of the "Great" tier.  In the case of the...case, it was this:

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4

Nice.   Decent room to work, plenty of expansion slots. 
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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2015, 05:06:10 PM »
I honestly don't get the huge box requirements. Unless you have 6 hard drives or you need to burn several disks at once its just a ruddy big lump.

Nice.   Decent room to work, plenty of expansion slots. 
Decent room to work? How much 'work' do you do after you built it? As for expansion the thing I learned from experience is you build a PC once. Forget upgrading. If you got it right everything is pretty much balanced. To improve you'd need to change several things ... ergo its time to build a new PC. PCs seem to always last me about 3 years before I want to change them. At which point you normally find the processor sockets have changed or the memory is DDR2 or DD3 or DD4 etc, and the graphics cards need more power or the slot has changed for that too or that the motherboard bus speeds are two slow for what you want to do next.



I just ordered everything on the first row of the "Great" tier.  In the case of the...case, it was this:

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4
The i3 is the stand out choice there amongst those tiers. Those things are awesome. A really good pick. Hoping you opted for ssd. Did you get an aftermarket CPU fan? I don't see much point as you can't overclock that processor.

Good price for the spec, I think you'll be delighted. :D

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2015, 05:49:10 PM »
I honestly don't get the huge box requirements. Unless you have 6 hard drives or you need to burn several disks at once its just a ruddy big lump.

Nice.   Decent room to work, plenty of expansion slots. 
Decent room to work? How much 'work' do you do after you built it?
Ummmm.... I'm talking about when he builds it?  You know, sliding the MB in, routing power and sata cables, hooking up the front panel, etc...

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As for expansion the thing I learned from experience is you build a PC once. Forget upgrading. If you got it right everything is pretty much balanced. To improve you'd need to change several things ... ergo its time to build a new PC. PCs seem to always last me about 3 years before I want to change them. At which point you normally find the processor sockets have changed or the memory is DDR2 or DD3 or DD4 etc, and the graphics cards need more power or the slot has changed for that too or that the motherboard bus speeds are two slow for what you want to do next.

So when you add a new HDD, you change your whole PC?
Or never add a second graphics card?
Or more RAM?

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2015, 06:09:47 PM »
Decent room to work? How much 'work' do you do after you built it?
Ummmm.... I'm talking about when he builds it?  You know, sliding the MB in, routing power and sata cables, hooking up the front panel, etc...
Why do you need tons of space for this? It is something you do once. He isn't going to build it with his feet.

So when you add a new HDD, you change your whole PC?
Or never add a second graphics card?
Or more RAM?
Why would I add a new HDD? I'd either build with plenty of HDD capacity to start with or get a separate external rack for my HDDs if I had some weird storage fetish and it could be hidden in a desk cupboard.



Why would I add a second graphics card? Twice the noise, twice the power consumption, and I have to get the same one I'm trying to upgrade. I'm buying outdated crap. Its time for a new PC if you need another graphics card later cos you will want faster ram and a better processor to accompany it.

Why would I want to add more RAM? I built the PC for a purpose. Ram is dirt cheap. I'm going to put twice as much as I need in there anyway. My next realistic step will be faster ram. For that I will likely need a new mobo, ergo new PC.

Build a PC Dave and see. You don't end up upgrading them. Between f'd up upgrade paths and requirements of several components at once, you build a PC for now, and start saving for the next one unless you are on the bleeding edge and buying the latest everything as soon as it comes out because you have a money printing machine in your bedroom. 


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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2015, 06:19:26 PM »
This thread is starting to feel very familliar...

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2015, 06:21:19 PM »
Just let it happen.
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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2015, 06:26:04 PM »
Just let it happen.

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2015, 06:27:46 PM »
Dave, we were all doing a great thing, that is we were ignoring Thork's shitposts. Please proceed to do the same and not allow Thork to turn this thread into a garbage heap.

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2015, 06:28:21 PM »
Dave, we were all doing a great thing, that is we were ignoring Thork's shitposts. Please proceed to do the same and not allow Thork to turn this thread into a garbage heap.
You know as little as Lord Dave does. ::)

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2015, 06:34:56 PM »

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Re: Joining the PC master race
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2015, 06:36:59 PM »
Dave, we were all doing a great thing, that is we were ignoring Thork's shitposts. Please proceed to do the same and not allow Thork to turn this thread into a garbage heap.

I'm sorry.  I had a moment of weakness.
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