https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html
If you wanna read it instead of listen.
My god, its damning.
I don't know how you have a sensible conversation with Trump about stuff like this.
In the middle of a ramble about it all Trump says:
"...The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters..."
When he can get a word in edgeways Raffensperger responds:
"Well Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen and they were surprised. But they — I guess there was a person Mr. Braynard who came to these meetings and presented data and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that's wrong. There were two."
Not long later Trump says
"In one state we have a tremendous amount of dead people. So I don't know — I'm sure we do in Georgia, too. I'm sure we do in Georgia too."
So...what do you do with that? Trump makes an accusation without presenting any evidence, he just states it.
It's responded to, he's told it was looked into and found do be false and he just repeats the claim not long later as though if you repeat a false claim often enough it becomes true. Unfortunately if Trump repeats stuff like this it becomes true in the minds of many of his supporters. All a bit depressing.