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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #180 on: June 04, 2021, 01:54:52 AM »
lol @ the test animals here who took an experimental vaccine and risked their health on blind faith for a sticker and a box of juice

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/doctor-on-covid-vax-we-screwed-up-we-didn-t-realize-the-spike-protein-is-a-toxin-does-this-mean-everyone-vaccinated-is-manufacturing-their-own-spike-protein-toxins-in-their-own-bodies

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Doctor on COVID Vax: "We Screwed-Up. We didn't realize the Spike Protein is a TOXIN" Does this mean everyone vaccinated is manufacturing their own Spike Protein Toxins in their own bodies?

Audio from a radio show has emerged wherein Dr. Byram Bridle reveals the scientists behind the COVID-19 "Vaccine" made a terrible mistake.

According to the Doctor, who cites a brand new, peer-reviewed research study out of Japan "They made a mistake - they thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, only to discover it is a toxin, that can travel to many organs of the body, causing severe damage."

WORSE,  the spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines don’t stay in the shoulder muscle, but spread to the brain, heart, ovaries, etc.

They also know that the spike protein is what causes the damage with COVID—and now it is clear how it is causing so much damage in other parts of the bodies of the vaccinated.

From the video below Dr. Bridle on why the vax injuries are happening:

"Spike protein, on its own is the cause of the vascular, neurodegenerative, problems, not the virus.

In the original theory it stay's in deltoid, goes to local draining lymph node, activates immune system.
But a new bio-distribution study from Japan tracked the vax and spike proteins.

It gets into the blood within days of vax, accumulates in spleen, brain, bone marrow, liver, adrenal glands, with high concentrations in ovaries.

Spike protein is a pathogenic toxin that causes damage if in circulation, binds to platelets, epithelial cells of blood vessels, clotting, bleeding, heart problems, brain blood clotting."

Conclusion is "We made a big mistake, and didn't realize it till now." "We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen but never knew the spike protein itself was a pathogenic toxin protein." "By vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin."
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #181 on: June 04, 2021, 05:01:20 AM »
Based?  Or Biased?


The article I posted.


lol @ the test animals here who took an experimental vaccine and risked their health on blind faith for a sticker and a box of juice

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/doctor-on-covid-vax-we-screwed-up-we-didn-t-realize-the-spike-protein-is-a-toxin-does-this-mean-everyone-vaccinated-is-manufacturing-their-own-spike-protein-toxins-in-their-own-bodies

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Doctor on COVID Vax: "We Screwed-Up. We didn't realize the Spike Protein is a TOXIN" Does this mean everyone vaccinated is manufacturing their own Spike Protein Toxins in their own bodies?

Audio from a radio show has emerged wherein Dr. Byram Bridle reveals the scientists behind the COVID-19 "Vaccine" made a terrible mistake.

According to the Doctor, who cites a brand new, peer-reviewed research study out of Japan "They made a mistake - they thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, only to discover it is a toxin, that can travel to many organs of the body, causing severe damage."

WORSE,  the spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines don’t stay in the shoulder muscle, but spread to the brain, heart, ovaries, etc.

They also know that the spike protein is what causes the damage with COVID—and now it is clear how it is causing so much damage in other parts of the bodies of the vaccinated.

From the video below Dr. Bridle on why the vax injuries are happening:

"Spike protein, on its own is the cause of the vascular, neurodegenerative, problems, not the virus.

In the original theory it stay's in deltoid, goes to local draining lymph node, activates immune system.
But a new bio-distribution study from Japan tracked the vax and spike proteins.

It gets into the blood within days of vax, accumulates in spleen, brain, bone marrow, liver, adrenal glands, with high concentrations in ovaries.

Spike protein is a pathogenic toxin that causes damage if in circulation, binds to platelets, epithelial cells of blood vessels, clotting, bleeding, heart problems, brain blood clotting."

Conclusion is "We made a big mistake, and didn't realize it till now." "We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen but never knew the spike protein itself was a pathogenic toxin protein." "By vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin."

Isn't an antigen the thing we use in the vaccine to train the body's immune system to fight?
The same spike protienes that are on the corona virus?

So isn't it GOOD that the body attacks and destroys the spike protiene?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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« Reply #182 on: June 04, 2021, 09:52:14 AM »
Dr. Bridle appears to be less than honest. First off, the vaccine doesn’t create spike protein, it creates part of the protein. Second, the protein never leaves the cell where it is created. Being a well respected viral immunologist he must have know this, so why is he saying this? Maybe it has to do with the money he got from the Ontario government to create a vaccine that is based on spike protein?

https://byrambridle.com/

This site goes through Dr. Bridle’s claims and links to the studies they are based on.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #183 on: June 04, 2021, 06:57:56 PM »
I am still not vaccinated. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I die horribly from the flu.
Or, more likely, you won’t get that ill (if you’re fairly young) but you could pass it into someone who is at risk. Or you could get long Covid which I know people who have had and it isn’t super fun.
This isn’t just the flu. It might not be an “ZOMG LETS SHUT DOWN THE COUNTRY” level event either but it’s definitely a situation which demanded a response.
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« Reply #184 on: June 08, 2021, 02:54:39 AM »
I’m fully vaxxed. No side effects except I got kind of tired the night of the second shot and it turned me hella gay.

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« Reply #185 on: June 08, 2021, 11:37:53 AM »
I’m fully vaxxed. No side effects except I got kind of tired the night of the second shot and it turned me hella gay.

I hear being gay adds 20 years to life expectancy.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #186 on: June 09, 2021, 09:43:44 AM »
I don't like Russell Brand. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I loathe the bastard and his liberal politics. But, just because most of what he says is shit, doesn't mean he is consistently always wrong.

His view on why the West refused to believe that the virus came from a Chinese lab a few miles from the source of the outbreak and instead told everyone it came from a bat several thousand miles away.



The tl;dr ... the West has a narrative that science will always provide the solutions. An inexorable drive for progress spurred on by corporate profits. But what if science was increasingly becoming the source of all our problems? What if science didn't provide the solutions to the pandemic, but instead increasingly caused them? Can pharma companies rely on government grants and handouts from a supportive tax base when those funds are used to hurt that self same set of tax payers?

I think this "science solves everything and answers all our prayers" narrative is particularly prevalent on these forums. The blind faith placed in these institutions by patrons of this site never ceases to amaze.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #187 on: June 10, 2021, 06:52:37 PM »
Whoooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Face masks on, lock all the businesses, find me a vaccine and spend all our tax money. Forget coronavirus. We have bigger problems.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57431322
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #188 on: June 11, 2021, 02:26:07 AM »
Dr. Bridle appears to be less than honest. First off, the vaccine doesn’t create spike protein, it creates part of the protein. Second, the protein never leaves the cell where it is created. Being a well respected viral immunologist he must have know this, so why is he saying this?

Why? Oh, I know this one. Dr. Bridle is the respected viral immunologist and you are not.

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https://byrambridle.com/

This site goes through Dr. Bridle’s claims and links to the studies they are based on.

So an anonymous author of a website with no stated credentials is saying that a viral immunologist is wrong. Seems to be a trend from you of either citing yourself or anonymous internet comments. Nor do any of those links on that site reference long term studies. The vaccine has not been tested long term.

You were better off citing yourself as your source and your extensive non-specific experience with watching youtube videos. At least there is a chance of someone actually claiming to be an expert in those videos.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #189 on: June 11, 2021, 04:04:51 AM »
Dr. Bridle appears to be less than honest. First off, the vaccine doesn’t create spike protein, it creates part of the protein. Second, the protein never leaves the cell where it is created. Being a well respected viral immunologist he must have know this, so why is he saying this?

Why? Oh, I know this one. Dr. Bridle is the respected viral immunologist and you are not.

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https://byrambridle.com/

This site goes through Dr. Bridle’s claims and links to the studies they are based on.

Well, here are three authorities to your one that are basically calling bullshit on Bridle's claims - Are 3 better than one?

Spike protein produced by vaccine not toxic

"Dr. Dan Kaul, an infectious disease expert at the University of Michigan, said that the vaccines have been proven safe and effective through clinical trials and the millions of people who have so far received the vaccines in the U.S. “In terms of the spike protein itself being pathogenic in some way that’s just simply not true,” he said in response to Bridle’s claims.

In the interview, Bridle says that the spike proteins generated by the vaccines don’t stay in the shoulder muscle, but spread and are “causing so much damage in other parts of the bodies of the vaccinated.” But Dr. Adam Ratner, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at NYU Langone Health, said that vaccines are mostly concentrated at the site of injection or the local lymph nodes.
“What was said in the radio show was completely inaccurate,” Ratner said. “There is no spike protein in the vaccines first of all. The amounts that are made after the mRNA is injected are very small and it almost exclusively stays locally. It is nowhere near the amount he was talking about.”

Bridle left out key details of the study, which relied on an ultrasensitive detection tool, said Matchett, of University of Minnesota (William Matchett, a vaccine researcher at the University of Minnesota Medical School).
“The spike became undetectable by 14 days after the first dose of the vaccine,” Matchett said of the study. “After the second dose, they could not detect the spike protein in the blood of any of the participants because the participants had all generated anti-spike antibodies.”
Bridle also mentioned a Japanese study to support his claims about the spike protein. But the study, which is written in Japanese, does not look at spike proteins from the vaccine, Matchett said.


https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-377989296609

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« Reply #190 on: June 11, 2021, 04:14:54 AM »
You quoted an "infectious disease expert," a "pediatric infectious disease specialist," and a university "vaccine researcher". Dr. Bridle is a viral immunologist.

https://www.longdom.org/scholarly/viral-immunology-journals-articles-ppts-list-4339.html

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Viral Immunology

viral immunology is the study of viral infections and immune responses towards viral infections which can cause deleterious effect on the functions of the cells. It includes both DNA and RNA viral infections.

So you haven't quoted anyone who is a specialist in the immune response towards viral infections.

Maybe it will help if you quote a few more pediatricians.  ::)
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« Reply #191 on: June 11, 2021, 05:22:58 AM »
You quoted an "infectious disease expert," a "pediatric infectious disease specialist," and a university "vaccine researcher". Dr. Bridle is a viral immunologist.

https://www.longdom.org/scholarly/viral-immunology-journals-articles-ppts-list-4339.html

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Viral Immunology

viral immunology is the study of viral infections and immune responses towards viral infections which can cause deleterious effect on the functions of the cells. It includes both DNA and RNA viral infections.

So you haven't quoted anyone who is a specialist in the immune response towards viral infections.

Maybe it will help if you quote a few more pediatricians.  ::)

Maybe it would help to quote a few more animal doctors...

Byram Bridle, Associate professor of viral immunology at the University of Guelph (@OVCPathobiology)

“OVC”= "Ontario Veterinary College”

Is your guy actually a Vet?

I'll take my "infectious disease expert," "pediatric infectious disease specialist," and a university "vaccine researcher", over your veterinary immunologist.

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« Reply #192 on: June 11, 2021, 05:35:01 AM »
Tom, once again, clings to experts that happen to agree with him, dismissing all others.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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« Reply #193 on: June 11, 2021, 06:01:40 AM »
Maybe it would help to quote a few more animal doctors...

Byram Bridle, Associate professor of viral immunology at the University of Guelph (@OVCPathobiology)

“OVC”= "Ontario Veterinary College”

Is your guy actually a Vet?

I'll take my "infectious disease expert," "pediatric infectious disease specialist," and a university "vaccine researcher", over your veterinary immunologist.

Wow. So here is some news for you: Scientists study animals for the purposes of human health.

Try reading his website profile:

https://ovc.uoguelph.ca/pathobiology/people/faculty/Byram-W-Bridle

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At the intersection of these two programs, is a research initiative aimed at modifying the research team's optimized cancer vaccine platforms to target severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV)-2, which is the causative agent of the coronavirus disease identified at the end of 2019 (COVID-19). The long-term goal is to have a flexible technological platform to rapidly develop vaccines against highly pathogenic coronaviruses that may emerge in the future.

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The Bridle lab is or has been funded by:

Canadian Institutes of Health Research
Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada (NSERC)
Terry Fox Research Institute
Canadian Cancer Society,
Cancer Research Society
Canadian Breast Cancer Foundation

Obviously Dr. Bridle must be wanting to create coronavirus vaccines for dogs. And the Canadian Breast Cancer Foundation is super interested in curing breast cancer in cats.

We can clearly see that Dr. Bridle was trained in human health viral immunology:

https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/472827d6-3b15-4c33-834a-970e550df358/downloads/Affidavit%20of%20Expert%20Witness%20B.%20Bridle%20-%20Respon.pdf?ver=1620059730771




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« Reply #194 on: June 11, 2021, 11:23:53 AM »
Tom, touting your viral immunologist as a Trump card has to be some of the most desperate tactics I’ve seen. You know who the vaccine was designed by, right? Instead of clinging to this sad, fallacious argument perhaps find out what other relevant scientists are saying?
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« Reply #195 on: June 11, 2021, 11:50:56 AM »
Tom, touting your viral immunologist as a Trump card has to be some of the most desperate tactics I’ve seen. You know who the vaccine was designed by, right? Instead of clinging to this sad, fallacious argument perhaps find out what other relevant scientists are saying?
This is Tom's MO.
I think we can all agree that there will be a range of opinions even amongst experts and there will be some outliers who have views which are not shared by the majority of experts in a field. So you can find an "expert" who will back up any viewpoint - especially if you are even more honest and quote part of what they say out of context to make it look like they're saying something other than what they're actually saying.

So this is what Tom does, he just finds the expert with the extreme opinion which backs up what he wants to hear and declares them as his star witness. All the other expert opinions are ignored or disregarded. Very dishonest way of arguing but Tom's gotta Tom I guess.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #196 on: June 11, 2021, 01:26:12 PM »
The vaccine has not been tested long term.

please cite the long-term health effect studies for covid.
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« Reply #197 on: June 11, 2021, 01:50:28 PM »
I received my invitation to book an appointment for vaccination today. Finally, this will all be over.

Update: I have made an appointment to be vaccinated. I'll have my second jab at the end of July.
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when you try to mock anyone while also running the flat earth society. Lol

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« Reply #198 on: June 12, 2021, 02:46:25 AM »
I received my invitation to book an appointment for vaccination today. Finally, this will all be over.

Update: I have made an appointment to be vaccinated. I'll have my second jab at the end of July.

Dude! I just got my second vaccine and now I'm magnetized!  No, I'm serious! Small metal objects stick to me!

I'm going back for another shot! I'm going to increase my magnetic field! My power will grow!!!

I AM MAGNETO!  FEAR ME!!!

oh, wait, it fell off... hang on...  almost got it stuck...  got to really press to get it to stick...   there....

I AM MAGNETO!!!

https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/06/10/nurse-uses-key-hairpin-try-prove-she-is-magnetic-vaccine-during-ohio-house-hearing-video/

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2021/06/09/doctor-sherri-tenpenny-testimony-ohio-lawmakers-vaccines-magnetized-5-g/7616027002/

https://www.newsweek.com/man-attempt-vaccine-magnet-theory-fails-admits-wrong-1599322
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #199 on: June 12, 2021, 09:19:06 PM »
I have a new conspiracy theory.

Coronavirus became a pandemic because of gain of function research that escaped from a lab. However ... we keep seeing new variants emerge, each more contagious than the last. Convenient that the improvement about all these new variants seems to be its contagiousness.

I think these new variants are man-made and the US and its Chinese partner are continuing the development of their bio-weapons and unleashing them on the public to gain more data. Under the guise of 'natural mutations' they release new improved variants in different parts of the world to cover their tracks and then monitor the effects. They know they will never get an opportunity like this ever again, to experiment on the public like this.

You heard it at tfes.org first.
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