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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: February 03, 2021, 10:51:05 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Earth Flood and Flat Earth

« on: February 02, 2021, 08:06:52 PM »

Hi..
Its my first post here, I hope to enrich and enriched from you also.

We all heard about the flood that covered the whole earth. Was it on flat earth or rounded one?

If it was on flat earth,then we should believe that something blocked it from leaking outside as the ice mountains or other barriers.

It it was rounded then there the gravity theory has controlled water around the world so strictly.

 As a Muslim many Muslim scholar talked about that saying that it was rounded. Some may said else.  We also believe that there is above Kaaba in Makkah there is a place in sky called "Albiet Maamoor". and that mean in my perspective one of four:
- the earth is flat and "Albiet Maamoor" is above it.
-The earth is rounded but not moving. So this place is above it as well.
- The earth is moving with the sky also and that may corrupt many theories and have to be studied beyond our minds.
- There is something else we cant study it.

These are some verses from Holy Quran talk about Noah (peace be upon him) flood.

Hey try not to combine myths

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: February 02, 2021, 08:06:01 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Question about reacting to news that your world view was wrong

« on: January 26, 2021, 04:53:54 PM »

There are groups of people (you need a group, one alone would just look crazy) who believe in large, powerful, and yet perfectly secret (in the sense that no one can find evidence sufficient to convince the general public). Sometimes, these groups are confronted with news that makes their beliefs clearly wrong.

Examples:

Jehovah's Witness founder predicted the end of the world, several times. Spoiler alert, it didn't end. Yet there are millions of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The guy on "Behind the Curve" who got a ring laser gyroscope and watched it precess by 15 degrees per hour, even after he put it in a Faraday cage. Yet there remain FEs.

Q predicted that Trump was working with Mueller to bring down the democrat/hollywood pedophile/cannibal ring, and that a storm would happen, democrats arrested and Trump remaining president. To my knowledge, Q never made a successful prediction, nor was there any evidence that any prediction was ever true nor that Q was actually who he said he was.

What is this system of thinking where you become convinced of something, see real world evidence that it is not true, and yet insist ever more emphatically that it is still true?

Given this testament to faith, and the explanatory powers of changing the laws of physics and giant, multi-generational, yet perfectly secret conspiracies, is there any idea that can be disproven? 

I have been warned about off topic posting. I will be watching for that on this thread, as my only question, the OP topic, is: "How can groups of people maintain faith with valid evidence against and none for?"

I am just a poor boy
Though my story's seldom told
I have squandered my resistance
For a pocketful of mumbles
Such are promises
All lies and jest
Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Medicinal cannabis trial in Australia

« on: January 22, 2021, 05:22:23 PM »

It's humorous that a drug as 'soft' as marijuana is still restricted so heavily here, even if it isn't heavily policed. Lots of people don't really care about the issue either. I think in the very least it should be legalized for medical use.

Next up, MDMA..

What sucks, even more, is oil and edibles are still classed like heroin and coke.   A serious felony for a plant extract

You do realize that heroin and coke are also plant extracts, right? I agree that having cannabis oil, or products containing it like edibles, shouldn't be a felony. But the "it's just a plant extract" kind of argument runs into some obstacles. Heroin and cocaine are both basically just alkaloid extracts from poppy and coca plants, respectively.

Yes, I thought about that 2 seconds after I posted.  But I also think that all drugs should be legal, self-solving problems.  Prohibition never stopped anything.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Take J-Man to the mat if you dare

« on: January 22, 2021, 05:20:27 PM »

33. But I’m a moron.

Well, that and the Bible is fiction just like UA, EA and the rest of flat earth theory.

The Bible is not fiction.

Post proof

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Medicinal cannabis trial in Australia

« on: January 21, 2021, 08:30:22 PM »

It's humorous that a drug as 'soft' as marijuana is still restricted so heavily here, even if it isn't heavily policed. Lots of people don't really care about the issue either. I think in the very least it should be legalized for medical use.

Next up, MDMA..

What sucks, even more, is oil and edibles are still classed like heroin and coke.   A serious felony for a plant extract

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Take J-Man to the mat if you dare

« on: January 21, 2021, 08:26:29 PM »

Ok I'm not bragging because I missed 3-4 I probably shouldn't have but I did score 31/40, which placed me in the "You must have read the Bible cover to cover" I have.

It's fun you freaks, don't lie you DEMS.

https://www.quizscape.com/general-knowledge/quiz-christian-bible/

36 of 40,  now let's do Harry Potter, an almost as silly set of books

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Capitol hill, jan 6: protest, attempted coup, or something in between?

« on: January 12, 2021, 09:35:31 PM »

We had 3 things at work. 

1. A bunch of rednecks wandering around high fiving (hardly a coup)

Agreed

2. Some idiots that are going to do hard time for breaking in

It was certainly more than breaking and entering.  Some were armed, there was violence attached to their unlawful trespass, and they used the violence to disprupt the operation of government, which is sedition.

3. The press that raved about Coups and insurrections.   

There is definitely some hyperbole from the left.  There is certainly some of the right who are trying to make this seem like no big deal, which is also wrong.

The problem is what it's always been, the mad dogs. Other than motive there is not a lot of difference between the marchers in BLM and the rednecks walking around the capitol grounds taking pics. What set it all apart were the mad dogs that showed up for BLM and for this clusterfuck.

For once someone actually shot one of the mad dogs.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Capitol hill, jan 6: protest, attempted coup, or something in between?

« on: January 11, 2021, 07:22:45 PM »

Even though Trump is to blame for what happened, I figured I'd start a separate thread because I'm curious about where you see last week's shenanigans falling on the spectrum of protest - coup.

I have a hard time viewing it as an attempt at a full blown government overthrow because, for the most part, it was just a bunch of angry, misinformed, and thankfully unorganized, group of far right republicans and full-on racists. On the other hand, they stormed the Capitol while lawmakers were performing arguably their most important duty within the american democratic process. I cant help but feel like if the people who stormed the building had breached the floor before lawmakers and the electoral votes had been evacuated, this would be a very different story, one that would likely still be developing.

Most(?) People went there to protest, but in my mind any breaching the capitol is guilty of a crime. And the fact is that hundreds or thousands of the attendees came equipped and ready/hoping for violent clashes with police and or lawmakers - pipe bombs, blades, bats, combat gear, zip ties, nooses - shows how close things came, especially with the ridiculous unpreparedness of the capitol police.

The one bright side to all this is that, provided there isnt a round two on or around inauguration day, this can be used to highlight the strength -not the weakness - of american democracy. Not many countries can withstand an assault on the heart of their democratic institutions and be essentially back to business the next day.

The ugly side is plain to see, with 5 people dead, and the intensifying of rhetoric and calls to action for a second event in the near future...

We had 3 things at work. 

1. A bunch of rednecks wandering around high fiving (hardly a coup)
2. Some idiots that are going to do hard time for breaking in
3. The press that raved about Coups and insurrections.   

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Covid-19 vaccine two shots

« on: December 31, 2020, 06:11:16 PM »

Take your shots dogs. We're going to kill you, per Gates.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/watch-nurse-passes-live-television-taking-coronavirus-vaccine/

WATCH: Nurse Passes Out on Live Television After Taking Coronavirus Vaccine

LMAO

Nurse wakes up, oh I'm fine now..lol  No ur not, you're now sterile, have bells palsy, your immune system doesn't work and will die in 5 yrs. Dumb A**

God what a scary place it must be to live in your head.   Do you make this shit up or hear it from hanity?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: When it Pays to be a Democrat

« on: December 31, 2020, 05:35:04 PM »

On the notion of Hunter Biden...

A couple of months ago, the NY Post had their Twitter account banned for breaking the story about crackhead Hunter Biden traveling the world and grifting on his dad's last name. No real reason was given for the ban, but news media as well as social media suppressed the story in an obvious attempt to keep the story from hurting Joe Biden's election chances. Seems they learned from last time when Comey came out about the Hillary email story just before the election and likely tipped the scales to Trump.

Back when the story broke, Hunter's business partner made a statement saying Joe Biden was also in on the scheme. The story was effectively buried and 69 50 members of the intelligence community signed a letter saying it looked like a rUsSiAn dISiNfOrMatiOn campaign.

Anyway, fast forward to now, turns out crackhead Hunter has been under investigation for a couple of years. It looks like Hunter may be in some rather serious legal trouble. I imagine a special council will be appointed prior to Sleepy Joe's inauguration and Joe himself has made it a point to say the DoJ will operate independently and free from political influence. Maybe Joe will pardon Hunter and then resign his post so Kamala can take her rightful place as co-person of the year President.

I think the real question is why was the media so fast in saying 'false claims" etc?   

Nothing to see here, mostly peaceful protests and on and on

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: When it Pays to be a Democrat

« on: December 16, 2020, 05:01:59 PM »

I'm defending him because (a) the sons and daughter on one side have ALREADY been found guilty of corruption. The Trump adult children, Tiffany excluded, are forbidden from operating charities in New York. Done. Settled. Guilty. and (b) the case against Hunter, with regards to the laptop, falls apart under scrutiny. Examples Pt.1;

So your argument is....  But Trump!

Classic

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Take J-Man to the mat if you dare

« on: November 27, 2020, 05:19:45 PM »

Ok I'm not bragging because I missed 3-4 I probably shouldn't have but I did score 31/40, which placed me in the "You must have read the Bible cover to cover" I have.

It's fun you freaks, don't lie you DEMS.

https://www.quizscape.com/general-knowledge/quiz-christian-bible/

Might as well be talking about the Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, who cares if someone knows a lot about fiction?   Ask any English lit graduate.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Should we extend all jail sentences by a year due to COVID-19?

« on: November 04, 2020, 07:24:55 PM »

Think about it.  What exactly are we trying to accomplish with our penal system?

Profit for the prison-industrial complex and its shareholders?

Exactly.  Legalize weed and a huge part of that goes away.

Oh no, you cant do that - look what happened to countries and states that legalized it!

Kids arent getting criminal records cor having a few grams on them, people can buy strands that fit what they actually want from the plant, theres more tax revenue for governments to spend, police forces arent spending time writing tickets and charging people for possession related offenses. It's crazy out there. It's against the law, which means it should always be against the law. Even though it wasnt always against the law.

Well said.  Can't happen!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Should we extend all jail sentences by a year due to COVID-19?

« on: November 03, 2020, 05:09:51 PM »

Think about it.  What exactly are we trying to accomplish with our penal system?

Profit for the prison-industrial complex and its shareholders?

Exactly.  Legalize weed and a huge part of that goes away.   

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Creation

« on: October 05, 2020, 07:15:06 PM »

Hello,

Please forgive the noob questions but I couldn't find this subject being covered in any depth on the site. (Please point me to it if I missed it).

What is the accepted creation theory for a flat Earth? How did it come into being and how was the solar system ordered so precisely to be beneficial to the flat Earth?

Does the flat Earth theory insist upon a conscious creator, a god or gods or is there a more secular, scientific explanation that describes the creation of the flat Earth system?

Thank you.

AR

You will do a lot better if you ask these types of specific questions to specific people.  There is no FE accepted theory, yet lots of differing individual ideas.  Some are wild  and some are pretty well thought out, some are biblical based, some are just trolls.   It's what makes it fun to discuss.   Come here as a thought execrise and you can enjoy it, come here to "prove the dumb asses wrong" and you will tire of it and leave in a day or two.

Even the WIKI, that you should read BTW, is full of contradictory ideas and ideas not accepted by the masses.    There is no one FE theory.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Where is the Sun?

« on: October 05, 2020, 07:07:11 PM »

The fact that so many countries seem to want a space program implies an inherent value to exploring space, but what is it?

Money pure and simple.   

Earth Orbit:  Communications. Starlink will become one of the biggest cash cows in history.  Imagine being on a sailboat in the middle of the pacific and getting broadband.   

The Moon and Asteroids:  Mining.  The moon is chock full of useful things we are running out of, and things that are very hard to get on earth like
Helium-3.   Asteroids are pure minerals of all kinds.   

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Zetetic method vs UA

« on: October 04, 2020, 02:14:11 PM »

They are not slowing down, they are not moving. They are being pushed upwards by the air.

How can they be "not moving" and be "pushed upwards" at the same time?  If something is being pushed, it's moving.   The only way it wouldn't be moving is if it is being pulled at the same time, with the same force, in the same opposite direction.

Obviously not defending UA, but Tom's explanation is consistent with the UA model.   If the ground was indeed moving up pushing the air with it then an object of more mass would be more "work" than one of less mass.

I did not start this thread to argue UA yes or no, just what I felt was an inconsistency I couldn't wrap my head around based on personal observation.  In fact, freefall speeds were not part of my OP but came up as part of the discussion.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Zetetic method vs UA

« on: October 02, 2020, 07:43:03 PM »

I was still editing my post when you replied, so I'll just quote myself here to make sure you saw my most recent remark:

Motion is relative. There is no correct answer to your question, and there is no physical difference between the two scenarios. All that changes is the frame of reference.

And don't worry - I honestly get why you're asking these questions. When I say that I think you misunderstand something, I don't mean it in a mean, personal way - the whole point of this place is to further our understanding of things. And I'm happy to explain my position as best as I can, even if I come across as very blunt in the process.

Oh I get it.  No offense taken.  I wish that all the debates would go like this one.  Present question, get responses, ask for clarification and move on.   

I seriously doubt many people have come here and said, "OMG the earth is flat" or the opposite.   While I have given Tom a ton of crap, one has to admire his ability to research and present a case.  He is not always on solid ground(IMHO) but he is consistent. In this case his points were spot on and concise.  You go girl!

PS.  You are a poopy pants (ship that to AR)