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...and, it's back to normal. False alarm, then. I closed the browser tab and reopened it. I'll screenshot if it happens again

Chrome on Win XP

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I have similar doubts as to the true nature of the moon, including its eerie glow.  It does not reflect light the way a spherical reflector does/should, and may well be an ionization effect or some sort of reflection.

How should it reflect light, and how do you assert that would differ from what we all see at present?

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Last post date in the sub-forum lists, the bolded titles in the stickied sub-fora ... switched from black text on white background to white text on white.

Not visible unless the text is selected, then shows up as white within blue selection area. 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please
« on: May 10, 2021, 06:12:59 PM »
The math will show they meet at some point bellow the observer.

It is indicative of nothing.

You have to define the point, or else you have no lat/long system. Cannot be a different point every time. Unless you can show us how?

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To save you time, these mountain ranges should not be visible. The only explanation from the round earth perspective ...

Or you could focus on things which are clearly visible, which would remove the argument of whether or not they should be visible.

Extend the principles of Rowbottom's experiment 2, but observe objects which are farther than Rowbottom's, but still within clear view.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Experimental_Evidence#Experiment_Two

To save you time, this has been done already.


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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please
« on: May 10, 2021, 10:50:15 AM »
The fact that two lines originating from two points in the sky would first intersect at some point below the observer shows nothing.

If you agree that an angle in degrees is formed by two vectors or lines, and that two places are separated by a number of degrees of latitude or longitude, where is the point at which they intersect?

Can you show a diagram of how you see it working?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: May 10, 2021, 06:38:15 AM »
As the audit continues in AZ, we now know Biden stole all the battle ground states and in fact lost the election to Trump. Regardless, sleepy Joe won't make it to the end of term and probably end of year as his dementia is really kicking in. Joe ain't my President, Obama in the basement is...LMAO  What a train wreak !!!

Why should we trust the audit?

The main auditor appears to be someone who has never audited an election before now, and whose CEO is a rabid conspiracy theorist.

https://slate.com/technology/2021/05/arizona-recount-cyber-ninjas-doug-logan-explained.html


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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please
« on: May 07, 2021, 06:03:28 PM »
Why would it be necessary for anyone to ever consider doing doing this?

Because those who did it found a remarkable consistency between measured and observed results.

Again, you seem to accept an 'x/y' co-ord system, using degrees to indicate lat/long, while not accepting RE; so if degrees are used on an FE model, where would you draw the angle?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please
« on: May 07, 2021, 04:35:14 PM »
Any x-y coordinate system could just as well be measured in degrees.

... but where would you place the angle? The point where the two vertices or lines meet?

EDIT to add image



Conventional RE geometry holds that the meeting point is at the centre of the Earth. The green dots indicate the latitude of London above the equator, the red is the latitude of Edinburgh above London, and the sum of the two is the latitude of Edinburgh above the equator.

Can you draw an indication of where you see the angle forming in FE geometry?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please
« on: May 07, 2021, 10:41:45 AM »
You got nothing here, even failing to acknowledge lat/long as an x-y coordinate system, which it plainly is.

Latitude and longitude are measured in degrees. Degrees are a unit of measurement for angles. An angle is the displacement between two straight vectors or lines.

If you measure displacements between two places in degrees, on any kind of FE system or model, where do you draw the angle? 

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And we could observe over land and rivers, not just oceans.

Like this - the view over the Forth Estuary in Scotland. Ignore the green annotations; they were for another discussion elsewhere



The waves cannot be obscuring the tops of the bridge towers, for the tallest ones are 210m tall.
The waves cannot be obscuring the tops of the hills beyond. They are approx 400m tall.
The observer was at 210m elevation.

 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 05, 2021, 05:33:47 PM »
Having just changed the world USA, I am sure they had a firm grip on the concept of change.

Fixed that for ya.

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Looking at things which are at the limit of vision, or of the optical device in use, will always be held up for dispute.

Why not look at things which are closer and clearer, and apply measurement, geometry and trigonometry to them, to see if you can decide whether or not these are consistent with either flat or not?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 05, 2021, 01:31:08 PM »
"The first ten are based on the natural order of things."

In short, what is this "natural order of things" to which you refer?

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It is because of ocean waves that the distant views get block. On lakes you should be able to see far distances.

Yes, but we're merely talking about observation of things like flags, islands, lighthouses etc. that we can see.

And we could observe over land and rivers, not just oceans.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please
« on: May 05, 2021, 01:15:19 PM »
Celestial navigation was based on the fact of a celestial sphere, not an earthly sphere.

How could you map/determine a celestial sphere without the underlying land/sea mass from which you observe it also being a sphere?

Surely FE dictates a celestial hemisphere, not a sphere...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 05, 2021, 12:23:03 PM »
And they need no revision or amending.

You have a set of amendments to the constitution, but assert that the amendments don't need to be amended?

So ... the constitution was amended by the amendments, but the amendments are sacrosanct and need no change?

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On light bending, look into what Dr. Edward Dowdye has to say: https://sciencewoke.org/nasa-scientist-says-coronas-bend-light-not-gravity/

Is it agreed that Rowbottom asserted straight light rays?

IMG above

It strikes me that we have better optics available than in Rowbottom's day, and that the Wiki and ENAG Workshop could be updated with improved versions which don't rely on line drawings as proof.

Unless some enterprising zetecist has already done this ... ?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please
« on: May 04, 2021, 11:25:25 AM »
Often the bs (which is not to say certainly "lies") came directly from nasa which consistently continued to claim, decade after decade for approaching 3/4 of a century now, "it's just a little bit further than you can get to, but trust us - it's totally there".

Will you be keeping an eye on the upcoming privately-funded SpaceX mission? A private buyer has booked the SpaceX Dragon for a vanity trip, along with two other private citizens, a trip which will take them in an orbit 75 miles above the ISS.

There may well be some footage looking down upon it, framed against the Earth, or part thereof, and maybe this might be of interest to those who have claimed (not necessarily in these forums) that the ISS is just "a light in the sky".

SpaceX is not equal to NASA.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please
« on: May 04, 2021, 06:29:59 AM »
Often the bs (which is not to say certainly "lies") came directly from nasa which consistently continued to claim, decade after decade for approaching 3/4 of a century now, "it's just a little bit further than you can get to, but trust us - it's totally there".

Can you provide a source for this quote, or an approximation of it?

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