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The Flat Earth Society => Announcements => Topic started by: Pete Svarrior on December 30, 2013, 03:06:20 AM

Title: New BBCode
Post by: Pete Svarrior on December 30, 2013, 03:06:20 AM
Hi,

We've implemented the following new tags for your convenience:

Both of these tags use HTML5 features, which are technically not yet a standard. Your mileage with these tags may vary, but my limited testing indicates that they should work for most browsers already.

As an addition, I've added a button for the already-existent [abbr] tag, since not many people seem to be aware of its existence (not surprising, seeing how there's no indication of it anywhere). To bring you up to speed with the syntax:

[abbr="Flat Earth Society"]FES[/abbr] becomes FES.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: xasop on December 30, 2013, 03:15:26 AM
Testing alternative codecs, since my browser won't play the ones pizaaplanet used.




http://82.sjm.so/ogg/02%20Zoot%20Allures%20%281982%2005%2022%20Dusseldorf%29.ogg


Update: These both work for me.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Alchemist21 on December 30, 2013, 03:21:33 AM
What's the point of the abbreviation tag?  Why would anyone choose that over just typing the abbreviation themselves?
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: jroa on December 30, 2013, 03:23:25 AM
I am running Ubuntu 13.10 and PP's video and audio run just fine. 
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: xasop on December 30, 2013, 03:28:38 AM
I am running Ubuntu 13.10 and PP's video and audio run just fine.

Cool story bro.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Shane on December 30, 2013, 03:31:20 AM
What's the point of the abbreviation tag?  Why would anyone choose that over just typing the abbreviation themselves?
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: jroa on December 30, 2013, 03:35:49 AM
I am running Ubuntu 13.10 and PP's video and audio run just fine.

Cool story bro.

Just thought you might want to know that not all Lunix distros are incapable of playing video. 

Seriously, though, I was just letting you and PP know that the video problem that you had seems to be isolated to you so far. 
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: xasop on December 30, 2013, 03:47:42 AM
Just thought you might want to know that not all Lunix distros are incapable of playing video.

Seriously, though, I was just letting you and PP know that the video problem that you had seems to be isolated to you so far.

It's far more significant which web browser you're using than which distribution.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Pete Svarrior on December 30, 2013, 03:50:17 AM
What's the point of the abbreviation tag?  Why would anyone choose that over just typing the abbreviation themselves?
I thought it might be useful when talking to mixed audiences. Some might prefer to say "Read ENaG" to keep things concise but still have the explanation out there. Either way, it was already in the forum code, and I figured it's a good idea to let people use if if they wish.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: jroa on December 30, 2013, 03:53:02 AM
It's far more significant which web browser you're using than which distribution.

The video and audio played fine in both Chromium and FireFox, just to elaborate. 
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: xasop on December 30, 2013, 03:58:14 AM
It's far more significant which web browser you're using than which distribution.

The video and audio played fine in both Chromium and FireFox, just to elaborate.

Both work fine for me in Chromium, too.

Either Ubuntu has patched Firefox to support proprietary codecs, or you're using a more recent version of Firefox (they only added support upstream recently).
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: jroa on December 30, 2013, 04:08:18 AM
I don't know.  I update almost daily and rarely pay attention to what I update.  However, mp3 and mp4 are not exactly new technology. 
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: xasop on December 30, 2013, 04:10:38 AM
However, mp3 and mp4 are not exactly new technology.

They have no place in an open web, which is why Mozilla hasn't been too hasty to implement them.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: jroa on December 30, 2013, 04:15:03 AM
Yet, FF embraces HTML5, Silverlight, and every other type of media transmission available. 
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: xasop on December 30, 2013, 04:18:17 AM
Yet, FF embraces HTML5, Silverlight, and every other type of media transmission available.

You really don't know what you are talking about, but this discussion has no place in Announcements. If you'd like to continue turning this into a technical discussion, please create a thread in T&I.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: jroa on December 30, 2013, 04:21:40 AM
No, I will bow out before the discussion turns to Xfce vs. LXDE. 
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Snupes on December 30, 2013, 05:37:43 AM
What's the point of the abbreviation tag?  Why would anyone choose that over just typing the abbreviation themselves?
I thought it might be useful when talking to mixed audiences. Some might prefer to say "Read ENaG" to keep things concise but still have the explanation out there. Either way, it was already in the forum code, and I figured it's a good idea to let people use if if they wish.

I'm still not really sure what the point of this is. Isn't it more effort to type out a code to shorten it rather than just type "FES"?
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Blanko on December 30, 2013, 10:18:12 AM
What's the point of the abbreviation tag?  Why would anyone choose that over just typing the abbreviation themselves?
I thought it might be useful when talking to mixed audiences. Some might prefer to say "Read ENaG" to keep things concise but still have the explanation out there. Either way, it was already in the forum code, and I figured it's a good idea to let people use if if they wish.

I'm still not really sure what the point of this is. Isn't it more effort to type out a code to shorten it rather than just type "FES"?

The point is that you can mouse-over the abbreviation to see what it stands for. It seems the support for this code isn't very universal, as I first viewed this thread on my phone and didn't find the code to have that functionality on my browser.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Pete Svarrior on December 30, 2013, 02:13:41 PM
The point is that you can mouse-over the abbreviation to see what it stands for. It seems the support for this code isn't very universal, as I first viewed this thread on my phone and didn't find the code to have that functionality on my browser.
It is standard HTML, and as such should be supported by all browsers. Then again, I don't have a good idea of how that would work on a mobile phone.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Blanko on December 30, 2013, 02:22:59 PM
The point is that you can mouse-over the abbreviation to see what it stands for. It seems the support for this code isn't very universal, as I first viewed this thread on my phone and didn't find the code to have that functionality on my browser.
It is standard HTML, and as such should be supported by all browsers. Then again, I don't have a good idea of how that would work on a mobile phone.

Well, in my brief testing, Opera displays it as normal text, whereas Firefox displays a dotted line underneath it, but I have no idea how to make the tooltip show up. Then again that might be an issue with all "hovering" tooltips in general, as hovering is understandably not something you can do that easily on a smartphone.

EDIT: Chrome also displays it as normal text.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: markjo on December 30, 2013, 05:32:06 PM
The point is that you can mouse-over the abbreviation to see what it stands for. It seems the support for this code isn't very universal, as I first viewed this thread on my phone and didn't find the code to have that functionality on my browser.
That's probably because touch screen interfaces generally have a hard time properly generating mouse over events.  I could be wrong but it might have something to do with the lack of a mouse.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Blanko on December 30, 2013, 05:44:36 PM
The point is that you can mouse-over the abbreviation to see what it stands for. It seems the support for this code isn't very universal, as I first viewed this thread on my phone and didn't find the code to have that functionality on my browser.
That's probably because touch screen interfaces generally have a hard time properly generating mouse over events.  I could be wrong but it might have something to do with the lack of a mouse.

Quality insight as always, markjo.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: Alchemist21 on December 30, 2013, 06:43:38 PM
FES

This is a test.

EDIT:  Safari doesn't even show it differently.
Title: Re: New BBCode
Post by: markjo on December 30, 2013, 07:43:19 PM
The point is that you can mouse-over the abbreviation to see what it stands for. It seems the support for this code isn't very universal, as I first viewed this thread on my phone and didn't find the code to have that functionality on my browser.
That's probably because touch screen interfaces generally have a hard time properly generating mouse over events.  I could be wrong but it might have something to do with the lack of a mouse.

Quality insight as always, markjo.
Hey, I'm not the one complaining about not being able to mouse over on a phone.