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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: August 12, 2022, 07:11:21 PM »
I really, really, really want a music video for this one.


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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched
« on: August 12, 2022, 02:51:55 PM »
i just watched Prey. i can't believe i'm saying this about a predator sequel, but it was really good.

the pacing was nearly perfect. the audio mixing was literally perfect (i didn't have to adjust the volume at all). the action scenes were tight with very few quick cuts, and they didn't drag on and on.

my only real beefs are that the ending was kind of dumb, and that the main character looks so much like aubrey plaza that i couldn't stop seeing april ludgate.
Weird. I agree with literally everything you said.

It made me wish they'd do Predator movies kind of like Assassin's Creed games. Just standalones around the world at different times. Not that they need to but I've never had any interest in seeing the other Predator movies (outside of the original I LOVE the original) until this one.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 11, 2022, 08:45:36 PM »
We are talking about the responsibility to the child after pregnancy has already occurred.
Nope. You were talking about how women need to have higher standards and wait until marriage. Why would women need to do that if they get child support from the man regardless? You were absolutely blaming women for being sexually active and were placing no blame on sexually active men even though it's their sperm that causes all the problems.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 09, 2022, 05:00:12 PM »
Parental approval used to be expected for a woman to take a suitor, taking care of the 'inexperienced' issue.

If someone did get pregnant outside of marriage family pressure would be applied by both the man's family and the woman's family, if they had respectable morals, to get married and have the baby.
Sir, we are in the year of our lord 2022. Mayhaps you could join us.

Abortion was not an option and was something generally relegated to prostitutes and riff raff.
lol very untrue

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 08, 2022, 07:34:33 PM »
I guess you are right, but he should admit that there are some valid reasons for abortion even in his mind.
No, he won't. He is literally a troll.

To listen to some in this thread safe abortion enables slutty behavior.  That has to be the most ridiculously misogynistic concept I have ever heard.

Next thing is they will want to eliminate all forms of contraceptives.
Yes. He is a misogynistic troll.

Meeting him halfway to get him to admit to something he never will is just losing the argument that abortion shouldn't be banned for any specific reasons other than time limits. You don't need to engage with him on his level, it just gives him the attention to keep going.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 08, 2022, 06:53:14 PM »
We could go on and on but perhaps you could respond to those 3.
Why? Why proceed with an argument based on the idea that all women should only have sex within a marriage and only require an abortion for some medical emergency or rape? Stop giving Troll Bishop any wiggle room with a stupid premise.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 08, 2022, 06:40:04 PM »
Yes, because no woman has ever, in the history of humanity, told her suiters that she was waiting until marriage.
Hmm, well are you arguing that all women should act like brain-washed, controlled, prudes or that we should have higher standards? You can only pick one because having higher standards does not equal being the virgin Mary. Or admit that you're a sexist troll and move on.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 08, 2022, 03:58:52 PM »
It does not matter if it occurred or not. The point is clearly that women can just get higher standards or opt for marriage.
One is not a connoisseur at birth. Only with a solid knowledge base and experience can one develop impeccable taste.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: August 05, 2022, 07:20:29 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Old Politicians
« on: August 05, 2022, 12:48:42 AM »
haha I've never seen one of those shirts before. It doesn't surprise me, but it's not as prevalent as you guys are making it seem.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Old Politicians
« on: August 04, 2022, 08:59:50 PM »
Yeaah, I don't think we single handedly won the war either and I went to school in the south. I mostly learned that we were assholes until it directly affected us.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched
« on: August 04, 2022, 06:09:02 PM »
I always forget about this thread.

Elvis was the first movie I've seen in theaters since the pandemic. It was good and fun and sad. Austin Butler clearly put in a lot of effort to sound like Elvis. His speaking voice consistently impressed me. On the flip side of that, Richard Roxburgh was a weird choice for Vernon, he could have worked on his American accent a bit more.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: August 01, 2022, 03:17:57 PM »

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: July 28, 2022, 02:53:50 PM »
The first thing I thought of when I saw that video yesterday was how he's come so far. This one is from 2013.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 27, 2022, 03:52:38 PM »
How do you think bananas are checked out at grocers? There is a serial number or scan scode attached to the item.
There is a general code for bananas. The cashier manually enters that code and weighs the bananas or enters how many bananas there are depending on the system.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 19, 2022, 01:39:26 AM »
That is so terrifying.

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It's such a stupid suggestion anyway, so it really does not bother me.

It is interesting to note, though, that the two people that condone suggesting a stranger on the internet commit a mass murder/suicide are religious.

And they think atheists lack a moral compass.   ::) Fuck me.
Are you counting me one of those people?
Tom’s suggestion was ridiculous.

It was along the lines of “if you don’t believe jumping off high buildings could harm you or other people then push someone off the Empire State Building and then jump off yourself”.

No one is going to take that seriously or do an experiment like that.
OK but, seems a tad risky to assume the people on the illustrious tfesdotorg are 100% stable and would never commit violence. Probably they won't, but why say something so gross for a nonsense debate tactic?

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His suggestion can’t be taken seriously. It’s a stupid thought experiment. Do you condemn Schrodinger for animal cruelty?
Schrodinger didn't tell people to go kill cats. Also, maybe you can stretch your imagination a bit here, but school shootings are a horrible reality of living in the United States so we're a bit sensitive to jokes or bad faith arguments referencing them.

For the record, I'm with Gary. It's a gross thing to say but not worthy of discipline. Just Tom making a bad argument because he's bad at debate.

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Demanding that you can see "hard evidence" for something spiritual or the work of something spiritual might involve a suggestion which involves death, so it shouldn't be surprising that it came up.
In that case, it's very weird how telling someone to kill themselves never once came up in my study of world religions course at uni.

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it's obviously not a good-faith argument

Actually, it is. If someone is jumping up and down saying that there is no way to get evidence for religion, the argument I provided, while extreme, successfully shows that statement to be incorrect.
And then they could come back and relay their findings to you on this forum, yeah? Not sure good debates typically involve suggesting suicide for obvious reasons.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 14, 2022, 04:44:41 PM »
I clearly was not talking about ten year old girls there. What is clear, however, is that the use of an extreme example of underage rape to justify the personal irresponsibility of adult women shows that you guys have lost the argument.
I don't really get why some people only allow abortions in cases of rape/incest and not in other situations. If you do see it as murdering a child then it makes sense why it would be illegal in all hard cases, but if you allow the hard cases to be aborted and nothing else, then at that point you have to admit you just want the "irresponsible" women to be punished.

I imagine people who are raped then are forced to make a police statement as well in order to get the abortion when the victim might not be comfortable actually reporting the rape.

It's kind of annoying whenever this discussion comes up and pro-choice people fall back on using rape cases as a default argument. Everyone should have the choice regardless of what happened and without having to explain why they want one before the third trimester.

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