2001
Status Notices / Re: Scheduled maintenance, 2014-09-20
« on: September 20, 2014, 06:31:30 AM »
Just a reminder that maintenance will be starting in just under 30 minutes.
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2002
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Scottish Independence
« on: September 19, 2014, 05:26:51 AM »2003
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Forum clock is about 2 mins out
« on: September 18, 2014, 11:43:31 PM »Impossible. I have windows 8.
Fair enough. Locked.
2004
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Forum clock is about 2 mins out
« on: September 18, 2014, 11:36:20 PM »
No it isn't. The server runs NTP, a highly accurate system for synchronising clocks, and synchronises with two servers in California, one in the UK, and one in Australia. Its clock is currently within 5 milliseconds of every one of those servers (see the offset column):
Maybe your system clock is two minutes behind?
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# ntpq -pn
remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
==============================================================================
2001:470:1:117: 216.218.192.202 2 u 22 64 17 0.552 -1.917 0.071
*2600:3c01::f03c 127.67.113.92 2 u 22 64 17 0.312 -1.698 0.140
130.88.200.4 194.66.31.14 2 u 21 64 17 142.525 4.139 0.255
203.26.24.6 198.60.22.240 2 u 16 64 17 181.174 -3.038 9.326
Maybe your system clock is two minutes behind?
2005
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 18, 2014, 01:40:23 PM »No, it seems fixed.
Excellent, thanks for confirming.
If you'd like to discuss anything else, please start a new thread.
2006
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 18, 2014, 12:26:53 PM »And yet we still don't have EU cookie warnings telling us that identifiable information about us is being stored. I live in the EU dammit.
I have a right to know and choose if I wish to accept cookies. Why this barbaric stealth?
Thork, you know better than to derail S&C threads. But while you're here, have you had any further issues with being logged out in the past two days?
2007
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Animated Avatars
« on: September 16, 2014, 08:50:19 AM »
0/10 would not co-admin again
2008
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 16, 2014, 12:52:51 AM »
I've just pushed a fix that removes the above code in the logout function, and deployed that:
https://github.com/theflatearthsociety/forum.tfes.org/commit/01f96ef52772685f0c745d972499b528ea3fa912
Upon closer inspection, this only happens on login in a few places, none of which is likely to cause problems.
Let me know if this is still a problem, or for those who have been affected, please let me know if it stops happening.
https://github.com/theflatearthsociety/forum.tfes.org/commit/01f96ef52772685f0c745d972499b528ea3fa912
Upon closer inspection, this only happens on login in a few places, none of which is likely to cause problems.
Let me know if this is still a problem, or for those who have been affected, please let me know if it stops happening.
2009
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 16, 2014, 12:29:18 AM »So, it looks like most (all?) people affected are using more than one machine/browser to browse FES. As a quick test, I logged in and logged out on a second browser while having my usual browser up - I ended up being logged out from both, with the cookie from the original browser disappearing.
You've cracked it! Thanks for spotting that, pizaa.
In its Logout function, SMF does this (among other things):
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if (!empty($user_info['id']))
updateMemberData($user_info['id'], array('password_salt' => substr(md5(mt_rand()), 0, 4)));
The password_salt here is what's used for encrypting the user's password in the login cookie. Since it gets reset on logout from any browser, this will cause all current logins to be terminated, as their cookies will no longer be valid.
Fixing this is going to require a bit of thinking, as it looks like the salt also gets reset at login time, so logging back in again would break other logins regardless.
2010
Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched
« on: September 15, 2014, 01:53:32 PM »
I have been watching the original 1978 Battlestar Galactica, and its follow-up, Galactica 1980. I only have an episode and a half to go of the latter (the second-last episode seems to be broken halfway through, so I wasn't able to watch the end).
Battlestar Galactica starts off being literally Star Wars, but gets consistently better throughout its first (and only) season. The latter half is mostly good, particularly after Sheba joins the Galactica. On the whole, it feels like a cross between Star Trek (the original series) and Star Wars, and is much recommended. The overarching plot concerns a group of spacefaring humans from a distant galaxy who are all but extinct after a terrible war, and seek to find their distant cousins on Earth. The series ends with them receiving a transmission of the Apollo 11 moon landing.
Then they made the absolutely terrible decision to bring it back two years later, set an unspecified number of decades after the original, after they have found Earth. They dropped most of the original cast, and replaced them with completely unmemorable characters who don't seem to have any personality beyond making markjokes at every opportunity. None of the characters have clear motives for their actions, and the story is told by narrating everything that's about to happen before it actually does. What little isn't foretold is filled in with sci-fi cliches, so the entirety of every episode after the narration is completely pointless.
Oh, and did I mention that the main plot of the series involves a renegade Galactican who travels back in time with the intention of messing with history, yet there are never any visible effects of his actions in the present? How about the fact that Earth gravity is weaker than Galactican gravity, leading to the absolutely hilarious scenes where the protagonists escape law enforcement by leaping into the treetops? Oh, and one of them "accidentally" robs a bank because he thinks pulling out a laser pistol and pointing it at someone holding a bag full of money is a completely innocent gesture. I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
I'll leave you with one of the more memorable scenes from Galactica 1980:
Battlestar Galactica starts off being literally Star Wars, but gets consistently better throughout its first (and only) season. The latter half is mostly good, particularly after Sheba joins the Galactica. On the whole, it feels like a cross between Star Trek (the original series) and Star Wars, and is much recommended. The overarching plot concerns a group of spacefaring humans from a distant galaxy who are all but extinct after a terrible war, and seek to find their distant cousins on Earth. The series ends with them receiving a transmission of the Apollo 11 moon landing.
Then they made the absolutely terrible decision to bring it back two years later, set an unspecified number of decades after the original, after they have found Earth. They dropped most of the original cast, and replaced them with completely unmemorable characters who don't seem to have any personality beyond making markjokes at every opportunity. None of the characters have clear motives for their actions, and the story is told by narrating everything that's about to happen before it actually does. What little isn't foretold is filled in with sci-fi cliches, so the entirety of every episode after the narration is completely pointless.
Oh, and did I mention that the main plot of the series involves a renegade Galactican who travels back in time with the intention of messing with history, yet there are never any visible effects of his actions in the present? How about the fact that Earth gravity is weaker than Galactican gravity, leading to the absolutely hilarious scenes where the protagonists escape law enforcement by leaping into the treetops? Oh, and one of them "accidentally" robs a bank because he thinks pulling out a laser pistol and pointing it at someone holding a bag full of money is a completely innocent gesture. I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
I'll leave you with one of the more memorable scenes from Galactica 1980:
2011
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 15, 2014, 04:54:24 AM »
I just seemingly got logged out on my phone. This is weird. I'll wait and see if it happens again, and try to nail down what triggers it.
Meanwhile, if anyone else is affected, please let us know. I currently haven't a clue as to what could be causing it, so every piece of information helps.
Meanwhile, if anyone else is affected, please let us know. I currently haven't a clue as to what could be causing it, so every piece of information helps.
2012
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Secure Connections
« on: September 15, 2014, 03:48:37 AM »Won't performance suffer if everything is encrypted?
Yes, but I don't intend to make encryption mandatory. It will be an option for those who want to use it (and possibly used by default for the registration and login forms, we'll decide that once we actually have HTTPS in place).
2013
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Secure Connections
« on: September 14, 2014, 03:22:48 PM »
This is now underway. I'd expect to have it sorted by the end of this month.
2014
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 14, 2014, 06:01:52 AM »
Came back from my lunch break to this. I had not closed the browser in that time.
That's strange. Next time it happens, can you take another screenshot of your FES cookies before logging back in?
2015
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Secure Connections
« on: September 14, 2014, 05:45:37 AM »
This is something I've been meaning to get set up for a while. I'll try get around to it soon, if it's causing access problems.
2016
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 13, 2014, 05:35:08 PM »And it now expires in 2020. That seems correct to me.I dunno, bro. "Expires in 2020" and "always stay logged in" are not one and the same.
This is SMF we're dealing with. I'm just satisfied they've avoided Y2K.
2017
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 13, 2014, 05:31:34 PM »How did you log in? Did you use the form in the top bar, or did you click through to the login page and tick "always stay logged in"?
I don't remember, however I just logged out and back in ticking "always stay logged in" this time.
Here's my cookies.
And it now expires in 2020. That seems correct to me.
However, it's kind of annoying that there's no "always stay logged in" box on the top form. I'll add one soon.
2018
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 13, 2014, 05:23:39 PM »
^ does this help you?
Yes, and your login cookie's expiry is in the very near future.
How did you log in? Did you use the form in the top bar, or did you click through to the login page and tick "always stay logged in"?
2019
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 13, 2014, 04:58:01 PM »I've been having the same problem, but I figured it was mostly due to using private browsing at work.
Private browsing would cause this, if it discards cookies at the end of a session, which I'd imagine it would. Have you experienced the problem when not using private browsing?
Also, what pizaaplanet said. It would be very useful to have that information from someone who is experiencing this problem. So far, it hasn't occurred to me (and I tried restarting my browser to see if that would trigger it).
2020
Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Remember login broken
« on: September 13, 2014, 02:16:24 PM »
I've just tried logging out and back in again. I'll see if this problem happens for me.
Meanwhile, what is the expiry on the cookie your browser gets after logging in? In Firefox, this is visible under Preferences -> Privacy -> Show Cookies; I don't know about other browsers.
Meanwhile, what is the expiry on the cookie your browser gets after logging in? In Firefox, this is visible under Preferences -> Privacy -> Show Cookies; I don't know about other browsers.