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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026

« on: February 24, 2025, 04:38:06 PM »

Now, crucially, none of this is at odds with RET. WTF_Seriously just has a very poor understanding of RET, as one would expect.

I have this recent recollection of you saying something to the effect of, "if you have nothing to say...."

And, even then, this requires him to be selective with his eclipses.

Pick a date.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026

« on: February 24, 2025, 04:32:45 PM »

Nice lying. You have selective and partial eclipse paths. This doesn't work on all of them. Here are different views of the August 2027 eclipse:

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/globe/2027-august-2

As Pete said. Aug 2027:



Partial eclipse paths are only a result of the limitations of rotating the model.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026

« on: February 19, 2025, 04:25:47 PM »

At least you're consistent, Pete.  I've got nothing to add.  On the off chance you'd like to join the rest of us and discuss the topic at hand, eclipses, their paths and whether they're plausible on a round earth by all means feel free.  I'd probably be compelled to comment.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026

« on: February 18, 2025, 10:20:58 PM »

I dunno. Why would they? Why would they post maps identical to the one you described as non-representative nonsense? Have you considered telling them that they're misrepresenting RE, and that they should instead selectively glance at timeanddate.com? Considering how trivial it is, as you clearly demonstrated, they'll probably be quite embarassed!

Though... there is an alternative here... hrmmm... Nay, surely that's not it!

Wait.  Wait.  Ohhhhh.  That's a tough one.  Maybe.  A flat projection of the globe is the typical way to show the entirety of the earth in one view even though it's greatly distorted and doesn't accurately represent what is really happening?  Nay, surely that's not it.

https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/geometry/#:~:text=A%20solar%20eclipse%20occurs%20when,see%20the%20Sun%20completely%20blocked.

Respectfully, you couldn't missed the point any harder if you tried. Hopefully the above helps, but, just in case: the position you're currently trying to defend is not that the Earth is round; it's that the eclipse map presented here is nonsense that doesn't represent RE accurately.

No.  I got the point just fine.  Gotcha!!!!  NASA does the same thing.  WTF So stoOOOpid.  It's your MO.  You won't debate the content of my post because you can't so you resort to deflect and degrade the poster.  You know very well that the NASA animation isn't representative of what actually happens in the round earth model and you know why they create an animation in that way and that it would never be used in an actual debate of eclipse paths between NASA and the FE community.  And no, the point I'm trying to defend is not that the eclipse map is nonsense, that's what you've tried to to turn it into beacuse you have nothing else.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026

« on: February 18, 2025, 03:26:48 PM »

I dunno, man, why would NASA lie about it when WTF_Seriously can crack the code by looking at timeanddate.com for 5 minutes?

https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/5236/

Surprisingly poor effort from you, Pete.  You're better than this.

I dunno, why would NASA lie?

https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/geometry/#:~:text=A%20solar%20eclipse%20occurs%20when,see%20the%20Sun%20completely%20blocked.

"The code" to solar eclipses was cracked long ago, by thousands of people far more intelligent than me but evidently not more intelligent than you since they're all wrong.

Then again, actually looking at timeanddate.com also yields funny results...

I'm sure everyone would like to see you elaborate on this.  I won't hold my breath.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026

« on: February 17, 2025, 08:12:53 PM »

I really wish this website wasn't so entertaining.  It seems everyone is making this harder than it is.

First off, this:

It is of interest that on the globe the paths of the Solar Eclipse look rather odd:

is nonsense.  If, Tom, you’re going to argue, “Gee, RE is silly.” you should use a reference that actually represents RE.  The map is a flat projection and has zero accurate representation of the reality that is the spheroid earth.

The mechanics of every eclipse are exactly the same.  The moon, at 238,000 miles away, crosses in front of the sun in a path across the entire diameter of the earth casting its shadow in various locations due to, well, geometry.  That’s it.  An eclipse path is that of the shadow cast, not the path of the actual moon.  As such, the path can travel differently in the same way  a 50ft. tree can cast a 75 ft. shadow.

Everyone here has been analyzing the situation using 2D maps with the north pole directly at the top.   That’s not reality.  Reality is a 3D object with the north pole tilting toward or away from the direct path of the sun.

The TimandDate website presents a rotatable 3D model of every eclipse.  Play with it a little and put the north pole in a realistic position and you get this:

Every eclipse path is a nearly (not exactly due to the tilted, rotating spheroid shape of the actual earth) straight line all running a horizontal path if the north pole is positioned such that it aligns properly with the inclined orbit of the moon.  It’s almost as if, and bear with me ‘cause this is crazy talk, the shadows are all being caused by an object moving at a consistent angle to N-S in a straight line between a spheroid and a distant light source.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Finding Polaris and FE model

« on: August 16, 2024, 06:49:07 PM »

The Sun moves North and South in addition to East and West. It's easier to get a coordinate by a static celestial object rather than a variable one. The Latitude in the North is thus based on Polaris.

For example, how would they determine 90 degrees North at the Geographic North Pole? By the North Star, right? How about 85 degrees North? How about 5 degrees North? Obviously, the North Star is used for this coordinate and not the Sun.

So what's the coordinate reference for latitude in the south?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New idea on observing Sigma Octantis from multiple locations

« on: April 16, 2024, 10:10:32 PM »

There might be a time when two of the three southern continent locations such as South America and Africa see the night stars at the same time, but never all three (South America, Africa and Australia) at the same time.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunearth.html

Here is summer on June 21, 2021 with added green marker for "a star":

Nice cherry picking of data.  You've been shown before that this isn't true.

From the same website:



Now locate the star between the southern tip of Aftica and Madagascar on your monopole map and all three continents can view it at the same time except that South America and Australia will be looking nowhere near south as happens in reality.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New idea on observing Sigma Octantis from multiple locations

« on: April 15, 2024, 06:37:37 PM »

Both of Tom's videos are nonsense.

First, if all of the celestial bodies are inside the dome then shining lights on the dome from outside is meaningless.  That's neither here nor there though to their problems.

The first video is simply magician's sleight of hand and optics.  What we want to see is not what the top of the dome looks like but what the map looks like.  The video never shows this.  To see what is really going on the camera should be either able to view the map underneath or be viewing the bottom of the glass.  Optically, the shadow on the exterior of the dome is due to the fact that the light angle is causing all of the light to be reflected back in.  It's how a fiber optic cable works.  At the proper angle, light is reflected back into the core off the cladding as it propagates down the fiber.  All we are seeing is this optical property of the light angle causing all the light to be reflected back into the dome which causes the outer shell of the dome to be dark. You can see this by being able to slightly view the map and times when the magician is causing a shadow as well as you can see a bright outline on the paper, opposite the light, where the light would be shining at a nearly 90 degree angle to the edge of the dome and passing out.

In the second video, the lights should be directly above the camera circling like a clock not off to the side to match the FE model.

Neither video is in any way an valid representation of what is happening on a flat earth.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: I am wondering why I do not see...

« on: April 11, 2024, 10:16:32 PM »

Why is the Moon's shadow at the time of the Total Solar Eclipse placed elsewhere other than the plane of the ecliptic upon the earth? The time of the Total Eclipse should be where the Moon intersects the Sun on the Ecliptic.

The simple and obvious answer to this is because the earth's not flat with the sun and moon circling above it around a central point.  You've asked the exact question that proves the FE model false.

During a solar eclipse, the declination of the moon and sun are identical.  In the FE world that puts two objects of nearly equal size directly on top of each other over the exact same latitude line.  IF FE were true, at the time of the total eclipse totality must occur at a latitude equal the declination of both.  Having the time of the eclipse occur toward the polar latitudes is geometrically impossible.

It is the fact that you have objects orbiting and rotating on different planes that gives you the answer to your question.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread

« on: January 17, 2023, 03:45:26 PM »

The problem with (arguably) being the GOAT is that being just above middle is taken as an embarrassment.  Brady's still above 19 other league QBs on Garygreens chart and TB as a team is right in the middle on the other.

Mayfield or Wentz would give their left nut to be as shitty as Brady.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Free Speech Warrior Elon Musk

« on: December 19, 2022, 10:22:35 PM »

But on the Right, all you need to do is make the most crazy people happy and you should be good to go.

Why do you think Trump ran as a republican?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 19, 2022, 08:06:02 PM »

Well, we'll see how this plays out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jan-6-committee-condemns-trump-as-central-cause-of-insurrection-in-sweeping-report/ar-AA15ssDw?cvid=13c2a13e33e44971be49f9ab38d9e471

4 charges including insurrection.

I actually wish I had a Truth Social account just to see what the con man posts.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 16, 2022, 08:33:14 PM »

I would like off the meme universe ride now, please. I have had enough.

I like to think Trump browsed the “terrible political memes” thread and was inspired.

I mean he probably believes the Earth is flat, so who knows?

No way.  He's a champion of the Space Force.  Pew! Pew!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Biden is using American taxpayer money to pay off my loans

« on: December 16, 2022, 08:32:17 PM »

Silly rabbit.  That money should go to the defense budget.

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Technology & Information / Re: T-minus 10 hours - Artemis Mission to Moon

« on: December 16, 2022, 05:09:08 PM »

Being dropped out of a military transport plane doesn't count.

Sneaky NASA

So sneaky that all of air traffic control didn't notice a military transport plane in the vicinity.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 16, 2022, 02:52:37 PM »

"I can’t believe I'm going to jail for an NFT salesman,"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maga-rioter-can-t-believe-he-s-going-to-jail-for-trump-after-watching-trading-card-stunt/ar-AA15kc3R?cvid=cb4e283266b0424296409ce5259299be

Reality sucks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 15, 2022, 08:07:01 PM »

Tom Bishop

Better hurry.  No telling how fast these will be gobbled up.  Better get the complete set.  Hurry!!!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-nfts-are-the-big-announcement-promised-by-the-former-president-and-they-re-drawing-strong-reactions/ar-AA15kdGe?cvid=051d8ab653304683a4788dae57722916

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do FE meteors work

« on: December 15, 2022, 05:16:34 PM »

Perhaps you should also look at the entry on Universal Acceleration.  Universal, as in, it accelerates the entire universe (except for things on the the surface of the earth and some undetermined distance above).

That's my curiosity.  The meteor starts out from a position where UA should be accelerating it like all other heavenly bodies.  Perhaps the explanation would be that meteors exist at a level where they are just slightly out of the full effect of  UA. As such, they are ever so slowly 'falling' toward the earth and at some point enter the atmosphere.  I guess that would work.  Of course AATW makes a point that this doesn't cover.

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Flat Earth Theory / How do FE meteors work

« on: December 14, 2022, 03:29:39 PM »

I know, the simple answer to the thread title is just like RE meteors.

With the Geminids coming up I started thinking how meteors would work in the FE model. As I would understand FE theory, a meteor would have to start out under the effect of UA and be accelerated at the same rate as the earth.  Afterall, it starts at a distance from earth similar to all of the other celestial bodies so why would it not be affected by UA the same way.  What causes a meteor to suddenly lose acceleration and 'fall' into the Earth's atmosphere.