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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #860 on: February 18, 2021, 11:01:15 PM »
Who cares what Russia thinks? This is a pot trying to call a kettle black... even though the russian pot dumped the black all over the kettle.

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #861 on: February 18, 2021, 11:09:15 PM »
I mean, gee though, imagine, Russia is trying to undermine our government, shocker.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #862 on: February 18, 2021, 11:55:41 PM »
Russia is now defending my rights as an American more than the "American President".

https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/02/17/russia-blasts-biden-regime-for-persecution-of-trump-supporters-political-dissidents:

    The Russian Foreign Ministry has issued a statement lambasting the United States government under Joe Biden for the “ongoing persecution campaign” taking place “against anybody at all who does not agree with the results of the latest presidential election.”

    In the statement, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova delivered a scathing assessment of the human rights situation in the United States under President Joe Biden. Zakharova described the ongoing crackdown against Trump loyalists in the United States. She also questioned the “objectivity of the law enforcement agencies” involved in this campaign, noting that they were acting under orders and “in line with the narrative of the current administration who declared the events of January 6, 2021 a riot and everybody who was near the US Congress on that day all but plunderers.”

It's kind of creepy that you're putting stock in a spokesperson from the Russian Foreign Ministry.  What's next, you're going to be posting anti-American propaganda from DPRK?

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #863 on: February 19, 2021, 12:10:46 AM »
Any comrade of Trump's is a comrade of Tom's.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #864 on: February 19, 2021, 01:21:43 AM »
Russia is now defending my rights as an American more than the "American President".

https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/02/17/russia-blasts-biden-regime-for-persecution-of-trump-supporters-political-dissidents:

    The Russian Foreign Ministry has issued a statement lambasting the United States government under Joe Biden for the “ongoing persecution campaign” taking place “against anybody at all who does not agree with the results of the latest presidential election.”

    In the statement, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova delivered a scathing assessment of the human rights situation in the United States under President Joe Biden. Zakharova described the ongoing crackdown against Trump loyalists in the United States. She also questioned the “objectivity of the law enforcement agencies” involved in this campaign, noting that they were acting under orders and “in line with the narrative of the current administration who declared the events of January 6, 2021 a riot and everybody who was near the US Congress on that day all but plunderers.”

Yes, how terrible the American government is arresting citizens who simply exercised their right to violently overthrow the government and murder police officers.  How dare they get called rioters.

It's amazing how easily 'Trump loyalists' fall for Russian propaganda.  But listening to a liar for 4 years and eating up everything he says will do that I suppose.

Trump lost, Biden won.  Get over it.

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #865 on: February 19, 2021, 02:04:47 PM »
Russia has nuclear bombs, missiles, troops, battleships but their most effective weapon against democracy is American stupidity.

Putin is Q
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #866 on: February 23, 2021, 08:46:51 PM »
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/02/23/maricopa-countys-election-audits-show-2020-votes-counted-correctly/4550644001/

The audit in Maricopa county showed the machines functioned properly, using certified software and hardware, and were not connected to the internet. Random samples also showed that the Maricopa county results were accurate.

A hand count and perhaps a more arms-length audit may be pending.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #867 on: February 23, 2021, 09:22:12 PM »
Yeah, we should just believe the people who would have conducted the fraud that there is no fraud.  ::)

From that link - "The supervisors hired the two outside firms, Pro V&V and SLI Compliance, to offer an independent look at the county's voting machines and election results."

The people conducting the fraud picked the companies.

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: The Same Clandestine Companies Involved in the Certification of Dominion Voting Systems and the 2020 Results in Georgia Were Chosen for the Upcoming Arizona ‘Audit’ - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-exclusive-companies-used-audit-elections-certify-2020-results-georgia-chosen-arizona-linked-dominion-voting-systems/

"The Board of Supervisors, whom many believe are covering up election corruption due to their actions since the 2020 election, decided to pass on expert Jovan Pulitzer, who has a thorough and independent method to review the ballots and results.  Instead the Maricopa Board, after suing the Arizona Senate for ordering an audit be performed, eventually agreed to an audit but only if they could choose the auditors.  The county officials then limited their choices to Pro V&V and SLI Compliance."

The Maricopa Board of Supervisors were disobeying a subpoena to turn over elections material to the Arizona Senate for an audit

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/maricopa-county-still-refusing-demand-by-arizona-senate-on-election



They were almost arrested, but the vote failed by a single vote.

https://www.azmirror.com/2021/02/03/senate-gop-all-back-arresting-maricopa-county-supervisors-for-contempt/



https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-senate-elections-arizona-phoenix-subpoenas-a125fbb270a39a3ec79be9afa7aee51b



How shady is that?

These Maricopa elections officials are refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Senate of their state, and now you want us to trust them.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #868 on: February 23, 2021, 10:02:54 PM »
Textbook Cognitive Dissonance, as always.
Anything which shows the conspiracy to be wrong is simply reframed and declared part of the conspiracy.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #869 on: February 23, 2021, 10:12:54 PM »
Yeah, we should just believe the people who would have conducted the fraud that there is no fraud.  ::)

It worked for the Senate Republicans during the last impeachment.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #870 on: February 23, 2021, 10:31:47 PM »
These Maricopa elections officials are refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Senate of their state, and now you want us to trust them.

You really are interested in an authoritarian state aren't you?  The Senate has no legal right to the matters they are subpoenaing.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #871 on: February 24, 2021, 02:29:06 AM »
Grand Jury In Maricopa County Expected After Supervisor's Fake Audit - "When your cable guy comes in & hooks up your cable tv and 'certifies' that your remote control works. That's all they've done." "We're going to be demanding that the AG opens up a grand jury investigation."--Sen. Sonny Borrelli

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #872 on: February 24, 2021, 02:55:54 AM »
Grand Jury In Maricopa County Expected After Supervisors Fake Audit - "When your cable guy comes in & hooks up your cable tv and 'certifies' that your remote control works. That's all they've done." "We're going to be demanding that the AG opens up a grand jury investigation."--Sen. Sonny Borrelli



Partisan hacks looking to destroy AZ democracy didn’t like the results? Fucking shocking.  Is the Senator an expert on computer audits in your opinion?
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He's an elected official in the State of Arizona and the majority whip. His responsibility is to act as a voice for his constituents and to mobilize votes in the State Senate on major issues. The people voted for him to be there. He represents their views. The position of an elected official representative doesn't require any particular background or expertise, and such expertise might be detrimental and unrepresentative of his constituents, as the people he represents may not have that expertise and he would be acting on his own independent accord. His role is merely to express the general views of the constituents in their place who voted for him and take actions in favor of those views.

He was elected to be the decision maker for a legislative body. As a representative of his constituents he is the arbiter of determining appropriate experts. If Republicans are unhappy about voter fraud it is because their constituents are unhappy about voter fraud. Obviously an audit orchestrated by the people who would have conducted the fraud and would go to jail for it if caught isn't going to fly.

Innocent people don't refuse to obey subpoenas by the Senate and risk arrest. If Democrats think that a Senate audit would involve shenanigans there are legal remedies for exposing that. Planting evidence of a crime is highly illegal. The right thing to do is to let the Senate run its audit and confirm that the people running the election and the machines performed an accurate count.
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He's an elected official in the State of Arizona and the majority whip.

Irrelevant.

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His responsibility is to act as a voice for his constituents and to mobilize votes in the State Senate on major issues.

Irrelevant.

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The people voted for him to be there. He represents their views. As an elected official and decision maker for a legislative body he is an arbiter of determining appropriate experts.

So not an expert, got it.

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If Republicans are unhappy about voter fraud it is because their constituents are unhappy about voter fraud.

An absolute bull shit idea. Politicians act in their own interest or against the interest of their constituents all the time.

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Obviously an audit orchestrated by the people who would have conducted the fraud and would go to jail for it if caught isn't going to fly.

You have evidence the audit agencies committed fraud?

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Innocent people don't refuse to obey subpoenas by the Senate and risk arrest.

You should be concerned that the Senate is requesting private records they have no legal right to, instead you focus on the election commission not obeying the Senate.

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If Democrats think that a Senate audit would involve shenanigans there are legal remedies for exposing that. Planting evidence of a crime is highly illegal. The right thing to do is to let the Senate run its audit and confirm that the people running the election and the machines performed an accurate count.

It’s not the Senate’s right or duty to audit elections, for obvious reasons. It would be a terrible conflict of interest for an elected official to audit their own election. But you don’t care. Anything to get Trump back in by March 4th.
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Obviously an audit orchestrated by the people who would have conducted the fraud and would go to jail for it if caught isn't going to fly.
Be honest with yourself, nothing is going to fly with you. Unless maybe Trump himself came out and admitted he lost fair and square which is never going to happen. You're so entrenched in your position that all the evidence showing you to be wrong just washes over. You've spent months hopping from one false hope to the next.
Worth noting that Jack Sellets, the Supervisors Chairman, is a Republican.
https://ballotpedia.org/Jack_Sellers
Why is he part of rigging an election for Biden?

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Do they go to court to try and stop their tax returns being released? :)
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Innocent people don't refuse to obey subpoenas by the Senate and risk arrest
Do they go to court to try and stop their tax returns being released? :)

Ooh, we're about to find out!   :D
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #877 on: February 24, 2021, 05:16:51 PM »
I like how Tom has flipped his position on subpoenas.
Back when Trump ordered his staff not to comply (2019) Tom was all for it.  Now its 2021 and he's very against such things.

But we knew they were guilty, so maybe this is Tom admitting so?
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #879 on: February 25, 2021, 10:16:50 PM »
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/rudy-giuliani-and-his-staff-dodged-billion-dollar-lawsuit-by-repeatedly-running-away-and-running-red-light-report/?utm_source=mostpopular

Member when Giuliani welcomed the court battle with Dominion?

Lol...   I could hear the saxophone music from the Benny Hill show while the process server chased Giuliani around.


It looks like Dominion is not going to take any more of this crap from bullshit liars going on about conspiracies.  Maybe some of the posters on this forum should be concerned.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/23/dominions-lagainst-mypillow-lindell-is-definitely-not-the-last-ceo-says.html
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