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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 19, 2021, 08:46:32 PM »
Definition of vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
As soon as one is available, I can deal with it.

Ok, troll bait:
What part of the above definition is not part of the currently available vaccines?
I believe that is a question you can answer for yourself, okay troll bait?
Then the answe is: none of it. The above definition matches the current vaccines.
A demonstration of your lack of understanding is not helpful to you in any form or fashion.
No immunity for one.
Is it because I'm not completely, 100% immune to the virus?  Because I don't know any vaccine that does that.  I mean, no matter what you have, a mesels virus can get into your body.  Your body will then destroy it very quickly, but it'll still infect you.  Thus, unless the vaccine alters your body so a virus is incapable of entering your body, you can't be immune in that manner.  Just... immune in the "I won't get sick" part if the virus has a longer gestation period.
Oh, I see.

You don't like the process of defining words.

Carry on.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 19, 2021, 08:44:35 PM »
Evidence that the live video stream taking place from the orbiting in space Inspiration 4 capsule was actually done prior to all the sparkly fireworks taking place on launch day?

How do you believe they pulled off the appearance that they are weightless in space, including the female crew members long hair appearing to look like it's in a weightless environment, as well as a stuffed animal aboard the capsule appearing weightless as well? Do you have evidence and research that shows how they pulled this off?
You posted a video taking place prior to launch demonstrating just what you ask for.

The movie "Gravity," is another example.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 19, 2021, 02:02:31 PM »
@A80; Airplane has conceded that his initial posts were just studio publicity material. 

Do you want to address the actual issue here, or just continue with the bayonet practice on his straw man. 

I've just watched the video and I'm curious to know how you think they faked this.  Remember, this isn't NASA.  Shoot, it isn't even SpaceX; its a billionaire and 3 guests who've Uber-ed a Crew Dragon.  Its a Lad's Amsterdam-Weekend.  Only its in space.
I already stated that any and all photo and video shots were done prior to all the sparkly fireworks taking place on launch day.


1. What evidence and research are you able to provide that proves and demonstrates that the above 10-minute video stream taking place from the orbiting in space Inspiration 4 capsule was actually done prior to all the sparkly fireworks taking place on launch day?

2. How do you believe they pulled off the appearance that they are weightless in space, including the female crew members long hair appearing to look like it's in a weightless environment, as well as a stuffed animal aboard the capsule appearing weightless as well? Do you have evidence and research that shows how they pulled this off?
Asked and answered.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 19, 2021, 01:59:50 PM »
Definition of vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
As soon as one is available, I can deal with it.

Ok, troll bait:
What part of the above definition is not part of the currently available vaccines?
I believe that is a question you can answer for yourself, okay troll bait?
Then the answe is: none of it. The above definition matches the current vaccines.
A demonstration of your lack of understanding is not helpful to you in any form or fashion.
No immunity for one.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 19, 2021, 10:35:29 AM »
Definition of vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
As soon as one is available, I can deal with it.

Ok, troll bait:
What part of the above definition is not part of the currently available vaccines?
I believe that is a question you can answer for yourself, okay troll bait?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 19, 2021, 10:01:54 AM »
Definition of vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
As soon as one is available, I can deal with it.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 18, 2021, 07:20:15 PM »
@A80; Airplane has conceded that his initial posts were just studio publicity material. 

Do you want to address the actual issue here, or just continue with the bayonet practice on his straw man. 

I've just watched the video and I'm curious to know how you think they faked this.  Remember, this isn't NASA.  Shoot, it isn't even SpaceX; its a billionaire and 3 guests who've Uber-ed a Crew Dragon.  Its a Lad's Amsterdam-Weekend.  Only its in space.
I already stated that any and all photo and video shots were done prior to all the sparkly fireworks taking place on launch day.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 18, 2021, 05:33:37 AM »
Does anyone here actively worry about whether or not another person is vaccinated against measles or the flu?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 17, 2021, 06:47:11 PM »
"What Crew Mission" was a comment you had posted earlier within this thread.
In response to the promotional photos being passed off as crew mission photos by the OP.
I can only gather from your comment that you were implying that the crew mission that went to space never happened.
I keep trying to encourage you to either improve your gathering skills or remain off the board.

Cause neither one is working.
Which is prompting my question back to you: what observation evidence / research can you provide that shows that when the Inspiration 4 crew rocket launched, that the Mission did not exist.
Which prompt my response back to you.

Quit strawmanning and gaslighting.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 17, 2021, 06:11:40 PM »
I would disagree that my critical thought questions back to you is any form of gaslighting and being disengenuous and I think you know it isn't as well.
As usual, you are wrong and I am right.
You and I both entered into this thread. You started by saying Baaawww it's fake.
Wrong, as in here^

Please point out in my initial post where I claimed anything was fake.

If you cannot, apologize for lying.
I am merely asking a basic critical thought question in reply to your response to the OP which is what observational evidence or research can you provide to show that it was all faked?
I never claimed it was all fake.

That is an instance of you strawmanning and gaslighting.
Promotional materials don't equate to something being fake, although I understand it can be tempting to use as a basis for arguing for a conspiracy. I am just challenging you to provide evidence and research findings for fakery occurring.

The video that I provided included views from the Cupola back to Earth and views of a Cupola on the ISS back to Earth with curvature.
The video you provided was not from the SpaceX mission.

More posted lies.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 17, 2021, 04:56:45 PM »
Playing devil's advocate, and with respect to all correspondents, all we have seen so far from this mission is just more stills and video, with all their attendant fallibilities (true and/or claimed).  The unique proof in this particular pudding is going to be the 4, unpaid, independent witnesses of what they saw through an undistorted window.  Could they all be actors?  I'm not convinced that a multi-billionaire is really going be swayed by Screen Actors Guild rates. 

And Lackie; hundreds of live witnesses watched this lift-off.  Where do you think the capsule and crew are at the moment?  Kubrick's back yard?
If there isn't direct evidence that the mission is fake OR if there has been no research done to demonstrate and prove that the mission is fake than there isn't any foundation for knowledge that the mission is fake.

The assertion that it was fake is then based on a Belief vs. having knowledge, which goes against the Zetetic approach.

- There is direct evidence that a rocket launched as people witnessed and can report back that a launch occurred.
- There is evidence that the rocket is at a certain altitude above Earth's atmosphere and moving at a velocity of about 17,500 MPH via telemetry data.
- There is continuous feed video link feedback from the Inspiration 4 capsule showing Earth curvature, which would indicate the Earth is shaped like a Sphere.
- There is video from within the capsule showing objects floating, which would suggest weightlessness.
Again, the OP posted photos of "the view" prior to the mission taking place.

Not a huge leap to distrust every other shot following as already having been done with no need for "space."

Even the follow up vid was shot here on earth.


As per the OP, those were promotional materials regarding the first all civilian crew to go to space.

Publishing promotional materials doesn't mean the mission is fake and therefore the Earth is flat.

Auto companies publish promotional materials on new cars they are to launch. The fact that they are publishing promotional materials doesn't mean that the cars are fake and that there is a land travel conspiracy.

Again, what observational evidence do you have that the mission was faked and that they are not in space?
One more time:

I've attached a link to an additional video of the crew mission taken from the view of the Cupola showing the Globe Earth. What evidence do you have that this is fake?
The evidence is this is not a link to a video of the crew mission.

Your disingenuity, strawmanning, and gaslighting are too much.

Don't you have some other pressing, urgent business to attend to?

You're not handling things very well here.

I mean, you not only present promotional material as actual footage of the "crew mission," you don't even read what you type.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 17, 2021, 03:10:00 PM »
Playing devil's advocate, and with respect to all correspondents, all we have seen so far from this mission is just more stills and video, with all their attendant fallibilities (true and/or claimed).  The unique proof in this particular pudding is going to be the 4, unpaid, independent witnesses of what they saw through an undistorted window.  Could they all be actors?  I'm not convinced that a multi-billionaire is really going be swayed by Screen Actors Guild rates. 

And Lackie; hundreds of live witnesses watched this lift-off.  Where do you think the capsule and crew are at the moment?  Kubrick's back yard?
If there isn't direct evidence that the mission is fake OR if there has been no research done to demonstrate and prove that the mission is fake than there isn't any foundation for knowledge that the mission is fake.

The assertion that it was fake is then based on a Belief vs. having knowledge, which goes against the Zetetic approach.

- There is direct evidence that a rocket launched as people witnessed and can report back that a launch occurred.
- There is evidence that the rocket is at a certain altitude above Earth's atmosphere and moving at a velocity of about 17,500 MPH via telemetry data.
- There is continuous feed video link feedback from the Inspiration 4 capsule showing Earth curvature, which would indicate the Earth is shaped like a Sphere.
- There is video from within the capsule showing objects floating, which would suggest weightlessness.
Again, the OP posted photos of "the view" prior to the mission taking place.

Not a huge leap to distrust every other shot following as already having been done with no need for "space."

Even the follow up vid was shot here on earth.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 17, 2021, 03:05:33 PM »
Who is going to tell Tom that a gun shot wouldn’t be listed as the primary cause of death if someone gets shot through the heart?
Probably the same people who would count it as a gunshot death when offering up their feeble rhetoric concerning "WE NEED TO CONTROL YOUR GUNS!"

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 17, 2021, 11:57:30 AM »
Yeah, don't worry.

The other shots they took will be quickly pawned as purportedly "LIVE FOOTAGE!!!" very soon!


Just to challenge you on the notion that the Inspiration 4 civilian crew mission did not go to space, what empirical evidence and/or research have you done to confirm other than declaring that it's fake?

I've attached a link to an additional video of the crew mission taken from the view of the Cupola showing the Globe Earth. What evidence do you have that this is fake?


Why would I want to discuss your strawman propositions?

What crew mission?

Do you even watch your own submissions?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:17:10 PM »
I know Tom loves to get his news from random social media memes or Cucker Tarlson but the claim that people who die in traffic accidents but tested positive for covid recently are being counted in the covid death toll is complete and utter BS

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/social-media-posts-make-baseless-claim-on-covid-19-death-toll/

If anything, the near 650K death toll is conservative.
Put the useless and lying fact checking sites in CN where that crap belongs.

Everyone here heard Dr. Birx.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:15:04 PM »
Okay...the last sickened anti-vaxxer is returning to work... now he's a veg.

He doesn't care that he consumed almost $100,000 worth of medical resources that we will all have to pay for through insurance premiums.
He doesn't care that everybody else had to bust their ass covering for him while he was unconscious in a hospital.
He doesn't care that his wife and child were hospitalized for the same thing at the same time.

If anyone at work tries to talk to him about getting vaccinated, he starts to say that this is a hostile work environment for people who are not vaccinated.

This is a good guy who worked for this company since the beginning. But how am I supposed to feel about all this?
It is hostile. Your company employs vegetables and we are to look to you for quality insight?

Humanity cannot vaccinate itself out of a pandemic, even if one actually exists.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 07:14:12 PM »
Hmm. Yes, I think it’s probably best not to feed Troll and Troller. But for all their attempts to divert, the data I’ve presented on the impact of Covid is pretty clear. As is the cherry picking dishonesty required to arrive at the “99.7%” survival rate.
There is no cherry picking involved.

The survival rate is what it is.
Yeah, I am sure natural immunity has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Given that the vast majority of the people now ending up in hospital or dying are the unvaccinated then you are correct, natural immunity has nothing to do with it.
Oh, really.

Seems Israel is just a fluke, uh.

No, it’s not a fluke. The numbers are getting high there and it took me two minutes to find some data which may indicate why:

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The share of the population having received one dose increased from 50% in February to only 68% in September. Children aged 12-15 have been included in the rollout since June 2021, yet despite this, currently only 62% of the population have had two doses.

https://theconversation.com/israel-was-a-leader-in-the-covid-vaccination-race-so-why-are-cases-spiralling-there-166945

So yeah, they started off well with their vaccine rollout but it tailed off and they still have a lot of unvaccinated people.
So what’s your point?
The vaccine tailed off, uh?

Doesn't work, uh?

Totally confident the reported MSM numbers are completely accurate, despite the proven lies associated with the plandemic.

Society cannot be vaccinated out of a pandeic

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 05:55:05 PM »
Anyone who thinks they can vaccinate humanity out of a pandemic is a total idiot.

Everyone wants to point to polio or smallpox as tremendous examples of how vaccination works.

Never mind the tremendous leaps forward in areas of personal hygiene and overall sanitation.

Most of the lot here = totally disingenuous, morally bankrupt, intellectually and philosophically inconsistent positions on most every subject.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 05:48:26 PM »
AATW has the largest supply of equivocation, regardless of the issue.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 16, 2021, 05:46:36 PM »
Yeah, I am sure natural immunity has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Given that the vast majority of the people now ending up in hospital or dying are the unvaccinated then you are correct, natural immunity has nothing to do with it.
Oh, really.

Seems Israel is just a fluke, uh.

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