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Title: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: bone83 on June 02, 2015, 06:34:08 PM
Hi everyone. !st of all i'd like to intruduce my self. I come from Poland and I am 32 years old. I do study the theory since a while but still got a few not answered questions. Like for example, what is happening with the sun after it disappears behind the horizon? If the earth is relaly flat we should see the sun all the time if it is a glowing ball no metter the distance. There should be less light but i dont have an explanation for the sunset. In some parts of the world the sun at the sunset is really big. Enlight me someone please.
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: Tom Bishop on June 03, 2015, 05:40:29 PM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 06:24:32 AM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
That makes no sense at all.  How about measurements from many different places at the same time?
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: JRowe on June 05, 2015, 10:51:14 AM
The dual earth model (see sig) uses a different answer: what we see is just the image of the sun, which sets as we'd expect, when the light rotates way from us.
It's complicated, but so is most new science.
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 01:34:52 PM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
That makes no sense at all.  How about measurements from many different places at the same time?

Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 04:02:01 PM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
That makes no sense at all.  How about measurements from many different places at the same time?

Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Diagram please with observed measurements. 
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
That makes no sense at all.  How about measurements from many different places at the same time?

Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Diagram please with observed measurements.

Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 07:27:26 PM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
That makes no sense at all.  How about measurements from many different places at the same time?

Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Diagram please with observed measurements.

Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?
If the sun is above me what will the angle be at 4 positions 1000 miles away from me, each at 90, 180, 270 and 360 degrees?
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: markjo on June 05, 2015, 07:54:58 PM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
That makes no sense at all.  How about measurements from many different places at the same time?

Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Diagram please with observed measurements.

Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?
Because it would be interesting to see if the diagram matches real world observations.
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 09:48:07 PM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
That makes no sense at all.  How about measurements from many different places at the same time?

Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Diagram please with observed measurements.

Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?
If the sun is above me what will the angle be at 4 positions 1000 miles away from me, each at 90, 180, 270 and 360 degrees?

I don't know. I have not measured that. I can only be in one place at a time.
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: inquisitive on June 05, 2015, 09:59:26 PM
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun
That makes no sense at all.  How about measurements from many different places at the same time?

Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Diagram please with observed measurements.

Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?
If the sun is above me what will the angle be at 4 positions 1000 miles away from me, each at 90, 180, 270 and 360 degrees?

I don't know. I have not measured that. I can only be in one place at a time.
That proves your claim is invalid if you cannot prove it.  What would you predict it to be?
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: Tom Bishop on June 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PM
That proves your claim is invalid if you cannot prove it.  What would you predict it to be?

The idea that the sun is descending by perspective is an interpretation of its descent, just like the idea that the earth is round and spinning is an interpretation of its descent.

Which scientist measured the position and descent of the sun and proved it to be the cause of a round world?
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: Rama Set on June 06, 2015, 12:26:57 AM
That proves your claim is invalid if you cannot prove it.  What would you predict it to be?

The idea that the sun is descending by perspective is an interpretation of its descent, just like the idea that the earth is round and spinning is an interpretation of its descent.

Which scientist measured the position and descent of the sun and proved it to be the cause of a round world?

How can a sun set cause the world to be round?
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: Excelsior John on June 06, 2015, 02:27:25 AM
Hi everyone. !st of all i'd like to intruduce my self. I come from Poland and I am 32 years old. I do study the theory since a while but still got a few not answered questions. Like for example, what is happening with the sun after it disappears behind the horizon? If the earth is relaly flat we should see the sun all the time if it is a glowing ball no metter the distance. There should be less light but i dont have an explanation for the sunset. In some parts of the world the sun at the sunset is really big. Enlight me someone please.
Greetings and welcome to FES studint!

You see the sun circels above the earth and what looks like a sunset to us is actuley just the sun runing its corse. What hapens is that it moves away from us and is hiden away by the atmisphere thus creating the fenominon of day and nite! Its as simpel as that !
Title: Re: Sun behind the horizon.
Post by: inquisitive on June 06, 2015, 06:22:21 AM
That proves your claim is invalid if you cannot prove it.  What would you predict it to be?

The idea that the sun is descending by perspective is an interpretation of its descent, just like the idea that the earth is round and spinning is an interpretation of its descent.

Which scientist measured the position and descent of the sun and proved it to be the cause of a round world?

How can a sun set cause the world to be round?
The round earth results in the observation of the sun.  QED.