Offline Flatout

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Re: Angular Diameter change of Venus and Mars
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2017, 01:45:27 AM »
So, Tom.  If "no"  model can accurately predict future events  then why did you say that the observations fit with flat earth model.  Is your flat earth model horse pucky too?

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Re: Angular Diameter change of Venus and Mars
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2017, 09:28:29 PM »
The plane of the solar system is the line on which all planets revolve around the sun. This plane, save for a few differences in inclination, is the same for every planet including Venus and Mars.
If the sun traces a circle over the central northern hub, the orbits of Mercury and Venus would be tilted at an angle to the surface - Mars and the outer planets would share this angle, tracing larger circles "behind" or "below" the Flat Earth disc - they would vanish below the horizon and become invisible for certain periods of the year.
This is not the case.
We see them shrink away and their angular diameters become smaller. Unless a planet is behind the sun in their orbit, they are always visible from somewhere on the Earth.
These orbital motions cannot be explained by the Flat Earth models.

Venus and Mercury have both been observed transiting (passing in front of) the sun on many occasions for hundreds of years. They also exhibit motion that can only be explained by them orbiting the sun, like the Earth. If this were a flat Earth, then at certain points both Venus and Mercury would have to pass close to the Earth's surface, underneath the sun in the Flat Earth "yin yang" day-might model. They would cast shadows like a partial eclipse with every orbit and, like the sun and moon, would also be visible at all times from all latitudes.
This is not the case.


Incidentally, the atmosphere of Uranus is one of the most dynamically interesting places in the solar system, partly because of its extreme inclination of the plane of the ecliptic - it rolls like a ball on the plane of the solar system rather than spinning like a top as the rest of the planets do, including Earth.
The temperature at Uranus' poles, where the same points are exposed to 42 years of constant light followed by 42 years of constant darkness cause extreme fluctuations in temperature. The rotation of the spherical earth is one of the reasons that the surface of the earth doesn't heat up to extremes and bake in the light of the sun - in the Flat Earth yin yang model, the surface of the earth would be exposed to sunlight at all times and would receive hideous amounts of energy, boiling away the seas and the atmosphere. Its spherical rotation helps it avoid the kinds of extremes Uranus is subjected to.

That, Tom, is how the temperature of Uranus is relevant to this argument.